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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)
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Tomer Hemed
Macauley Bonne
Chuks Aneke
Josh Davison
Time to stand up and be counted lads.9 -
Reactions like this from players never surprises me, be interesting to see who he lines up for in the new season (2020/21) .. he played a major part in our promotion but like a lot of players who kiss the badge and swear loyalty, he's just another mercenary who's played for a lot of clubs. He knows how to pluck the fans' heartstrings.
I can understand his motives. At his age, his next contract is vital for his future, though I can see him as a minor tv/radio pundit in a few years time, he has a gift for saying the right thing at the right time, but paradoxically, he seems to be handling his departure from us very badly.
Shame it ends this way, BUT after all, increasingly, that is the way in contemporary professional sports. He'll be missed but that's it. he's not irrepalceable.
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...and I should know, I've sent that text a couple of times....i_b_b_o_r_g said:I think his point that he won't be trying his hardest is a typical wanker's way to let someone down lighlty; eg "It's not you, it's me! You're better off without me"5 -
Should not go back to the training ground if he is adamant. I imagine it will affect the squad if he is around
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When Hales left I couldn't see who was going to score goals and seemed like the season was over. Up steps Flanagan, usually a wide player but made a good centre forward.
Let's hope someone does that this season.
I'd forgotten about Hemed and Aneke.0 -
He must have a big move lined up, but I'd really be shocked if a prem team takes him on. 30 years old, never kicked a ball in the premier league or any level comparable to the PL. Recently had lengthy injury. Surely there are better options than that for premier league teams?
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When your "big move" turns out being to Brentford.5
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Respect is a two way street.GenevaCharlton said:Not going to over the top but very disappointing. He should at least play to the end of his contract ie the games up to and including the 30th of June. In any profession you give your best to the end no matter what the next job and how attractive it is. You can get injured at anytime could have happened in April or March. Respect the contract.
Taylor could have said that he had a back injury but didn't. Given the amount of abuse as a result of the Club suggesting that he had refused to sign an improved contract I'm not all together surprised by his stance.
Southall turned fans against him and Bowyer (who let us not forget happily signed a new contract) did not tell us the actual situation either with regards to Taylor or the embargo.
Don't pay him from the time he stops playing for us. They might well be only one or two games.1 -
i_b_b_o_r_g said:
...and I should know, I've sent that text a couple of times....i_b_b_o_r_g said:I think his point that he won't be trying his hardest is a typical wanker's way to let someone down lighlty; eg "It's not you, it's me! You're better off without me"Outrageous behaviour. I've never done that!(texts weren't around back then!)2 -
As a few of you have already said, if the season hadn't been postponed and Taylor had refused to play, he would have rightly been vilified for it. Would Taylor have refused to play if this was a normal season? I doubt it.
However, the pandemic has provided him with a 'get out' essentially.
Fair play if he didn't want to risk getting covid. I don't think any of us would have held that against him. But refusing to play to avoid getting an injury with 9 games still to play? Doesn't sit right with me at all.2 - Sponsored links:
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Yes, the teams will have to finish the season with our squads from March. No way will clubs be allowed to sign players on 1st July and they start playing. It would create a massive issue.BrentfordAddick said:
Is this the case? So his contract with CAFC finishes, but he is not able to register with a new club. Does that sound right? Obviously, it's the EFL so anything could happen but it sounds as though he is prevented from earning. I get that he shouldn't be allowed to play for another team in this season, but is there a case that he should be allowed to join another team to prepare for whenever 2020/21 starts.cafcfan1990 said:
No. He won't be able to play until the transfer/registration period reopens.Valley27000 said:Early July Taylor playing for another club.
Shame if he isn't playing but let's be under no illusions where most players' loyalties lie.
Not saying he won't be able to sign a new deal with a club on 1st July and train with them, but he won't be able to play.
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Smoke signaled in overbobmunro said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:
...and I should know, I've sent that text a couple of times....i_b_b_o_r_g said:I think his point that he won't be trying his hardest is a typical wanker's way to let someone down lighlty; eg "It's not you, it's me! You're better off without me"Outrageous behaviour. I've never done that!(texts weren't around back then!)
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I wonder what the reaction would have been if Covid had been given as the reason for not wanting to play. He could quite easily have used that as an excuse. At least he is being honest about his reasons.iaitch said:At least this is in the open, better than Taylor playing and not giving 100% at a crucial time of the season.
Bonne, Green and Davidson may not have the experience but if they give maximum effort then let's see how it goes.
If Charlton hadn't been run as a circus for the last few years it would have realised that it had struck gold when we got Lyle for nothing from AFC Wimbledon. It was clear half way through last season that Lyle was going to be good enough for Championship, if we got there, and if the club had protected that asset and offered him a decent contract then he may not have been so disappointed when bids were turned down from a "massive" club like Brentford.
As we have seen time and time again over the last few years if you don't tie your best players down with contracts that are acceptable to them, then they walk away for nothing or get sold for a fraction of their true value.2 -
i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Smoke signaled in overbobmunro said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:
...and I should know, I've sent that text a couple of times....i_b_b_o_r_g said:I think his point that he won't be trying his hardest is a typical wanker's way to let someone down lighlty; eg "It's not you, it's me! You're better off without me"Outrageous behaviour. I've never done that!(texts weren't around back then!)
Carrier pigeon.
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Which might not be until late August / early September. God knows when any new season will start.cafcfan1990 said:
No. He won't be able to play until the transfer/registration period reopens.Valley27000 said:Early July Taylor playing for another club.
Refusing to play for your contracted club when don't even know when you might be playing for your new club seems bonkers to me.1 -
Don't blame any of them. I reserve the right to revise this opinion if the "big move" is to Croydon or another second-tier club, though.6
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The only positive I can think of at this point is no games have been played yet. Lyle could still change his mind if he has enough worthwhile conversations with Bowyer and other players about it. He will possibly be made aware that us failing to stay up might scupper our chances of a takeover and he could be made to see that there's bigger things at stake than him worrying about an injury that may never come. What's more likely to happen though is that he'll get a load of abuse on social media and that will help him decide that he's making the right choice. Or maybe he'll start a revolution at other clubs and Hull will only be able to put out a youth team against us. We can dream.
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https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1267418771603496961?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Natalie Sawyer got it spot on here!11 -
I stated earlier that I thought Lyle was not honourable but in retrospect he is as he is openly saying that he can't give 100% and that is honest. I still think he is wrong and as he is under contract, which he freely signed, he should honour that contract with 100% effort.2
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When did fans turn against Lyle? A very small number of users on twitter maybe mouthed off but dont think that can be considered a true reflection of Charlton fans feelings towards Lyle.Addick Addict said:
Respect is a two way street.GenevaCharlton said:Not going to over the top but very disappointing. He should at least play to the end of his contract ie the games up to and including the 30th of June. In any profession you give your best to the end no matter what the next job and how attractive it is. You can get injured at anytime could have happened in April or March. Respect the contract.
Taylor could have said that he had a back injury but didn't. Given the amount of abuse as a result of the Club suggesting that he had refused to sign an improved contract I'm not all together surprised by his stance.
Southall turned fans against him and Bowyer (who let us not forget happily signed a new contract) did not tell us the actual situation either with regards to Taylor or the embargo.
Don't pay him from the time he stops playing for us. They might well be only one or two games.7 -
My word, football is an absolute cesspit.
Why the fuck do we bother.25 -
This. If it wasn't for Covid-19 I'd be getting him to clean the boots, washing the kit & doing menial tasks around the club. Certainly wouldn't have him in training.mathew_davey said:Think the club is missing a trick. He should be called in but but allowed to train get him to do other jobs round the club. As at least that would disrupt his train routine. I do complety get his stance though as we all would do it. Also I would publicly mention the club if they are in the same division as us as surely that's a breach of fair competition1 -
I have been asking myself this a lot since 2014.mid_life_crisis said:My word, football is an absolute cesspit.
Why the fuck do we bother.1 -
LOL, this thread is priceless.
You could see this coming a mile off, so I don't know why anyone is particularly surprised because I'm certainly not. You only have to listen to him being interviewed to know that this is just a career for him and he wants to make the best decision for himself, regardless of what others may think.
That's his right, of course, as is it the right of others to agree or disagree with his decisions.
But he's not a "club legend", far from it, but equally he's not a "sewer rat". He's just another player and one that is on his way out the door.
One thing is certain though. We are a weaker team without a fit and hungry Lyle Taylor. Even Lyle Taylor at 80% probably adds to the team. But a disinterested Lyle Taylor at 50-70% is probably just not worth having.
See ya.
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Exactly. He’s walked off games like a broken man cos he’s put it such a shift and 99.9% of fans have noticed and applauded. But this is a total piss take. Even if he plays up until 30th June I could understand but I can’t handle him jackin it in before that. He could of been the difference against Hull and decided our short term future.roseandcrown said:
When did fans turn against Lyle? A very small number of users on twitter maybe mouthed off but dont think that can be considered a true reflection of Charlton fans feelings towards Lyle.Addick Addict said:
Respect is a two way street.GenevaCharlton said:Not going to over the top but very disappointing. He should at least play to the end of his contract ie the games up to and including the 30th of June. In any profession you give your best to the end no matter what the next job and how attractive it is. You can get injured at anytime could have happened in April or March. Respect the contract.
Taylor could have said that he had a back injury but didn't. Given the amount of abuse as a result of the Club suggesting that he had refused to sign an improved contract I'm not all together surprised by his stance.
Southall turned fans against him and Bowyer (who let us not forget happily signed a new contract) did not tell us the actual situation either with regards to Taylor or the embargo.
Don't pay him from the time he stops playing for us. They might well be only one or two games.
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The reason Taylor is getting the move is because of Taylor. Nothing else.Dazzler21 said:"If I was a Charlton fan, I’d be livid." 😡
— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) June 1, 2020
"I would be thinking: 'The reason you're getting that move is because of us.'" 👎
"We need you to get us out of this!”@NatalieSawyer reacts to Lyle Taylor refusing to play for #CAFC again. 🔥
Thoughts on this? 💭 pic.twitter.com/HuiSwhcW2D
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Pretty sure this is the same bloke who said Taylor wouldn’t be playing again last night?
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Players play for their clubs knowing that their contracts are about to expire, that happens all the time
Yes he was younger, but Patrick Bauer for example scored the winning goal at Wembley (and still celebrates the moment) knowing that he was likely to leave. Ditto Aribo
Imagine if either of them had downed tools in April...22 -
Agree he is not a club legend and certainly now not a "professional" in my mind.Off_it said:LOL, this thread is priceless.
You could see this coming a mile off, so I don't know why anyone is particularly surprised because I'm certainly not. You only have to listen to him being interviewed to know that this is just a career for him and he wants to make the best decision for himself, regardless of what others may think.
That's his right, of course, as is it the right of others to agree or disagree with his decisions.
But he's not a "club legend", far from it, but equally he's not a "sewer rat". He's just another player and one that is on his way out the door.
One thing is certain though. We are a weaker team without a fit and hungry Lyle Taylor. Even Lyle Taylor at 80% probably adds to the team. But a disinterested Lyle Taylor at 50-70% is probably just not worth having.
See ya.2
