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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)
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I understand Taylor's actions but I think players should honour their contracts - I would feel less annoyed with him if he didn't play the social media game so much.
I certainly won't clap him should I see him play for anoher team.
I don't like players picking and choosing when they play and I realise my views are old fashioned but it's a team game and far too many players forget that.2 -
Probably not... Its this whole COVID shit that has effectively moved the goalposts massivelyEricBanterna said:If Taylor refuses to play due to the reasons cited and moves to a English club.
Can we not go after them for effectively "tapping up". It's seems there is a offer for him from somewhere
Taylor / his Agent are acting no differently any other out of contract player by trying to get a good deal effective from 1st July - the only difference this time round is that the season hasnt been completed and is set to restart0 -
Understand Lyle's actions to protect his career.
But can't help feeling deeply disappointed.
Right when we needed him the most.....6 -
I understand Covid has created a situation in football.ForeverAddickted said:
Probably not... Its this whole COVID shit that has effectively moved the goalposts massivelyEricBanterna said:If Taylor refuses to play due to the reasons cited and moves to a English club.
Can we not go after them for effectively "tapping up". It's seems there is a offer for him from somewhere
Taylor / his Agent are acting no differently any other out of contract player by trying to get a good deal effective from 1st July - the only difference this time round is that the season hasnt been completed and is set to restart
But Taylor didn't say Covid was the reason. Whilst as a consequence Covid may be related to Taylors situation due to timescales between seasons and reduced recovery time if he was to get Injured.
He's basically said I have an offer and I'm not playing due to risk of injury, or has been told he cannot play by his new club.0 -
There’s one, quite a fundamental, difference between the way Taylor is allegedly* behaving and most other out of contract players are behaving though, isn’t there?ForeverAddickted said:
Probably not... Its this whole COVID shit that has effectively moved the goalposts massivelyEricBanterna said:If Taylor refuses to play due to the reasons cited and moves to a English club.
Can we not go after them for effectively "tapping up". It's seems there is a offer for him from somewhere
Taylor / his Agent are acting no differently any other out of contract player by trying to get a good deal effective from 1st July - the only difference this time round is that the season hasnt been completed and is set to restart
*I say “alleged“ as I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more to this than meets the eye, as with basically everything involving Charlton Athletic these days1 -
Hopefully its a game by bowyer/lyle.Theres far too much leniency on here for me. If we’ve paid him he should play or give the money back. Yes lyle wants to look after himself, but we need to look after cafc who are in dire straits as it is.2
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ForeverAddickted said:
Probably not... Its this whole COVID shit that has effectively moved the goalposts massivelyEricBanterna said:If Taylor refuses to play due to the reasons cited and moves to a English club.
Can we not go after them for effectively "tapping up". It's seems there is a offer for him from somewhere
Taylor / his Agent are acting no differently any other out of contract player by trying to get a good deal effective from 1st July - the only difference this time round is that the season hasnt been completed and is set to restart
The goalposts haven't moved. The regulations state that a player over the age of 23 with 6 months or less remaining on his contract is free to negotiate a pre-contract agreement with another club.
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Mccoist flintoff debating it now on talksport. Both saying he should honour the contract he signed.3
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Nice to hear someone saying that.2121 said:Mccoist flintoff debating it now on talksport. Both saying he should honour the contract he signed.2 -
We’re seeing this through fans’ eyes.Talal said:
Don't agree with that, he's under contract I think more people would honour it than not. After June 30th I'd have no problem with him not playing.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.0 - Sponsored links:
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I just want to take issue with this word 'professional' as being the central reasoning behind Taylor refusing to play.superclive98 said:
I'm sorry Bob but being in the profession of football I do think that 99% of us would do the same.bobmunro said:
No they wouldn't - not if they were in a 'profession' and being 'professional'.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.
I have to say that listening to the responses of so many "fans" over the last 12 hours has been like listening to the whining of a 14 year old boy just dumped by his first girlfriend. "But she told me that she loved me!!"
as in ' any professional would do the same'.
If one is a professional then you cant' choose which bits of the job you want to be professional about or at which times.
The refusal of Taylor to play (certainly in the forthcoming games between 20th June and the end of his contract)
is a clear breach of contract and therefore highly unprofessional.
Semantics I know and it doesn't change anything - its just that it really grates that that Lyle's actions are defended by some as being those of a professional when those actions bring both the profession and the individual into public disrepute.
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We’re seeing this through fans’ eyes.Talal said:
Don't agree with that, he's under contract I think more people would honour it than not. After June 30th I'd have no problem with him not playing.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.
I'm seeing it through professional integrity eyes. My anger is through a fan's eyes.
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Don't believe that's the case with moving from English club to English club. Think its one month prior to contract ending.bobmunro said:ForeverAddickted said:
Probably not... Its this whole COVID shit that has effectively moved the goalposts massivelyEricBanterna said:If Taylor refuses to play due to the reasons cited and moves to a English club.
Can we not go after them for effectively "tapping up". It's seems there is a offer for him from somewhere
Taylor / his Agent are acting no differently any other out of contract player by trying to get a good deal effective from 1st July - the only difference this time round is that the season hasnt been completed and is set to restart
The goalposts haven't moved. The regulations state that a player over the age of 23 with 6 months or less remaining on his contract is free to negotiate a pre-contract agreement with another club.1 -
I agree that Taylor should honour his contract but you can't compare the two situations.LargeAddick said:Just compare Taylor to Bauer and that’s all you need to do. One knows he is getting a big move, doesn’t want to jeopardise it, so refuses to play. The other knows he’s getting a big move, plays to the end, giving his all, honours his contract, then moves on.
If our season had run as normal and finished on 2 May away at Leeds i have no doubt at all that if fit, Taylor would've played. As even if injured you have at least 3 months until the new season.
But here you have a guy who is out of contract potentially one week after the season resumes. It's also been suggested that the new season may even resume as little as 3-4 weeks after the current one ends. It's understandable why he wouldn't want to risk getting injured and jeopardise a 20k a week contract offer.2 -
Solly has been far from integral for us for a couple seasons.MrOneLung said:I would be more inclined to give Solly more pelters than Taylor all day long.Long time club captain, testimonial benefactor, coming to end of career, ‘one of our own’ etc
where is the vitriol aimed at him ?Might start the anti Solly thread for balance.
His contribution hasnt won us as many games as Taylors contribution, quite the complete opposite in some eyes......0 -
Contracts should be honoured - most people don't have this option in their workplace.JamesSeed said:
We’re seeing this through fans’ eyes.Talal said:
Don't agree with that, he's under contract I think more people would honour it than not. After June 30th I'd have no problem with him not playing.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.1 -
The moral aspect of this is a massive one for me as well, besides the contractual.
Had we been in mid-table and relegation/promotion was highly unlikely anyway, then I’d actually have little issue with what is going on.
But knowing that we are in a relegation battle, and knowing that the future of the club could be on the line with everything that is going on...how could you look your team-mates in the eye again by doing this?!4 -
He has a contract. Refusal to play is a breach.
Damages for breach. Earnings and potential earnings.
We won't pay him.
He won't care.
Lyle you were, for 18 months, a top man in my eyes. You've just lost that respect.
Play games until 30 June then you are free to choose. By admitting you won't give your all in the meantime, another little part of my love for this game died in front of my very eyes.
This is right now, as close as I have ever been to giving up on Charlton and modern day football.
RIP CAFC. I'm beginning to see no way back for us.10 -
I completely agree with you but think this is an increasingly old fashioned view.cafctom said:The moral aspect of this is a massive one for me as well, besides the contractual.
Had we been in mid-table and relegation/promotion was highly unlikely anyway, then I’d actually have little issue with what is going on.
But knowing that we are in a relegation battle, and knowing that the future of the club could be on the line with everything that is going on...how could you look your team-mates in the eye again by doing this?!1 -
Are there actually any professions where an employee's contract stipulates they cannot leave at any time they choose?
Lyle can't expect his wages for June but I don't really see why shouldn't tell his obnoxious employers that he's found something better!
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How I feel too.supaclive said:He has a contract. Refusal to play is a breach.
Damages for breach. Earnings and potential earnings.
We won't pay him.
He won't care.
Lyle you were, for 18 months, a top man in my eyes. You've just lost that respect.
Play games until 30 June then you are free to choose. By admitting you won't give your all in the meantime, another little part of my love for this game died in front of my very eyes.
This is right now, as close as I have ever been to giving up on Charlton and modern day football.
RIP CAFC. I'm beginning to see no way back for us.0 -
JamesSeed, I am afraid I absolutely and fundamentally disagree with you. This may sound old fashioned but being a professional shouldn't and doesn't just mean you "have" a profession. It means acting professionally, with integrity, with values etc. As someone else said on here there are over 300 Championship players whose contracts run out at the end of the season. Thus far I am only aware of one who has said they don't want to honour their contract because they might potentially get injured and jeopardise a new contract with another club. Even if there are others who find less "honest" ways of avoiding playing, that doesn't make them right either.JamesSeed said:
We’re seeing this through fans’ eyes.Talal said:
Don't agree with that, he's under contract I think more people would honour it than not. After June 30th I'd have no problem with him not playing.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.
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Morals/romance/loyalty have nothing to do with this debate - that would influence anything that happened post 30th of June. Up until that point he is contracted to Charlton Athletic and it is not “old fashioned”, “romantic” or “a fans eye view” to expect him to fulfil his contract.After that he is free to do what he wants.4
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Footballers can ultimately do what they want but they understand the nature of the game. Lyle plays the social media game with the fans so presumably can expect more of a reaction as a result.stevexreeve said:Are there actually any professions where an employee's contract stipulates they cannot leave at any time they choose?
Lyle can't expect his wages for June but I don't really see why shouldn't tell his obnoxious employers that he's found something better!
He's looked after himself but fans feel let down.0 -
Nonsense. Far better players than Taylor have left us.supaclive said:He has a contract. Refusal to play is a breach.
Damages for breach. Earnings and potential earnings.
We won't pay him.
He won't care.
Lyle you were, for 18 months, a top man in my eyes. You've just lost that respect.
Play games until 30 June then you are free to choose. By admitting you won't give your all in the meantime, another little part of my love for this game died in front of my very eyes.
This is right now, as close as I have ever been to giving up on Charlton and modern day football.
RIP CAFC. I'm beginning to see no way back for us.
We'll get a new owner and even if it's in league one, we'll move on.6 -
I noticed that Lyle liked a comment on insta from Dexter Blackstock saying the club should offer him a 1 year deal.
Maybe, just maybe he is holding out for that? We can only hope. I think there's better chance of seeing pigs fly but hey ho.
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EricBanterna said:
Don't believe that's the case with moving from English club to English club. Think its one month prior to contract ending.bobmunro said:ForeverAddickted said:
Probably not... Its this whole COVID shit that has effectively moved the goalposts massivelyEricBanterna said:If Taylor refuses to play due to the reasons cited and moves to a English club.
Can we not go after them for effectively "tapping up". It's seems there is a offer for him from somewhere
Taylor / his Agent are acting no differently any other out of contract player by trying to get a good deal effective from 1st July - the only difference this time round is that the season hasnt been completed and is set to restart
The goalposts haven't moved. The regulations state that a player over the age of 23 with 6 months or less remaining on his contract is free to negotiate a pre-contract agreement with another club.Yes you are correct - English Club to English Club is one month. So from yesterday he was free to negotiate a deal with another English club.1 -
They were trying to qualify for the Gold Cup which as a shop window gets players from these small countries into the MLS.cafctom said:It always seemed to me that the Montserrat stuff was just a glorified holiday whenever it came up. I’m sure he was proud to represent them but it does wind me up that he was prepared to risk getting injured for them but not for us when he is contracted to keep playing.
I think Lyle hates ESI as much as we all do. But sadly that hate and other factors is more than his love for the manager, team mates and us fans.1 -
Also, he did point out in that recent instagram live interview that his injury was in fact 2 weeks before the international duty but he played on and made it worse whilst in Montserrat.
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Wasnt that the Swansea game at the end of the year?DoctorCharlton said:Also, he did point out in that recent instagram live interview that his injury was in fact 2 weeks before the international duty but he played on and made it worse whilst in Montserrat.1
