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Bowyer Going?
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Bowyer has proven what he can do in League One. We should all be happy if he is in charge next season as he did it against the odds and it looks likely that fact will remain!0
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Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
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Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
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Although I agree mostly, I do feel that he does have tactical shortcomings but he's only been a manger what 2 years? He has time. That said I feel like his motivation and ability to make players put all on the line makes up for his current tactical shortcomings but that's a discussion for another thread.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
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I wouldn’t put your relegation down to him either. I think without all the back room shenanigans he’d probably have kept you up this season. The following season he may have got found out. Same as Harris did. That’s the pattern those type of managers tend to take.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
...just my opinion .I’m not making that judgement on where you finished in the table. More from the type of decisions he makes during a match and listening to pre and post match interviews etc.That’s not a dig at the man. I think he has done brilliant at Charlton, What with all the crap he’s had to endure, getting you promoted last year etc but I just think he’s limited to that sort of level, L1... lower championship maybe? Can’t see him managing a premier league club, or a club aspiring to be PL anytime soon.As I say, just my opinion, and I may get proven wrong. We’ll see16 -
Tactically Bowyer’s been better than any manager we’ve had since Powell and arguably better than Powell as well. His style when he has the players has also been the best to watch.
He’s flexible with the formation, while having preferred systems and styles of play he’ll adapt tactics for each game as needed.
Losing points has more often been down to not taking our chances and having limited players in comparison to the opposition - we’re not able to keep possession against stronger sides, and when we do control possession we don’t have the ability to break down sides sitting deep.
You can’t change a game with subs and tactics if you don’t have players who are capable of coming on and making a difference, no matter how good you are tactically.28 -
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I haven’t seen anything from Bowyer as to whether he might be leaving or not?
Presumably would of had his meeting with Elliott and decided, he’d trust him as far as he could throw him but needs to mull over further?
But also wondering whether there may have been contact with Varney/Barclay to see how the land lied there before making any decision?
Perhaps clutching at straws but thought otherwise something would have come out, if there was nothing else to consider because I’m assuming if anyone has any idea of what’s going on behind the scenes he will and if it stinks, he’d have made his decision by now?0 -
Is this the Harris that is managing a side in the playoffs tonight?ŴMillwallFan said:
I wouldn’t put your relegation down to him either. I think without all the back room shenanigans he’d probably have kept you up this season. The following season he may have got found out. Same as Harris did. That’s the pattern those type of managers tend to take.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
...just my opinion .I’m not making that judgement on where you finished in the table. More from the type of decisions he makes during a match and listening to pre and post match interviews etc.That’s not a dig at the man. I think he has done brilliant at Charlton, What with all the crap he’s had to endure, getting you promoted last year etc but I just think he’s limited to that sort of level, L1... lower championship maybe? Can’t see him managing a premier league club, or a club aspiring to be PL anytime soon.As I say, just my opinion, and I may get proven wrong. We’ll seeBe honest, you wouldn’t recognise a good manager if you saw one.1 -
Harris inherited a very good Cardiff side. And Did you see their stats from the first leg? I bet you he isn’t Cardiff manager this time next season. They have high expectations there.Redrobo said:
Is this the Harris that is managing a side in the playoffs tonight?ŴMillwallFan said:
I wouldn’t put your relegation down to him either. I think without all the back room shenanigans he’d probably have kept you up this season. The following season he may have got found out. Same as Harris did. That’s the pattern those type of managers tend to take.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
...just my opinion .I’m not making that judgement on where you finished in the table. More from the type of decisions he makes during a match and listening to pre and post match interviews etc.That’s not a dig at the man. I think he has done brilliant at Charlton, What with all the crap he’s had to endure, getting you promoted last year etc but I just think he’s limited to that sort of level, L1... lower championship maybe? Can’t see him managing a premier league club, or a club aspiring to be PL anytime soon.As I say, just my opinion, and I may get proven wrong. We’ll seeBe honest, you wouldn’t recognise a good manager if you saw one.1 -
Yeah, I wouldn’t recognise a good manager if I saw one. Incidentally, here’s some of Harris’ stats since he took over at cardiff...Redrobo said:
Is this the Harris that is managing a side in the playoffs tonight?ŴMillwallFan said:
I wouldn’t put your relegation down to him either. I think without all the back room shenanigans he’d probably have kept you up this season. The following season he may have got found out. Same as Harris did. That’s the pattern those type of managers tend to take.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
...just my opinion .I’m not making that judgement on where you finished in the table. More from the type of decisions he makes during a match and listening to pre and post match interviews etc.That’s not a dig at the man. I think he has done brilliant at Charlton, What with all the crap he’s had to endure, getting you promoted last year etc but I just think he’s limited to that sort of level, L1... lower championship maybe? Can’t see him managing a premier league club, or a club aspiring to be PL anytime soon.As I say, just my opinion, and I may get proven wrong. We’ll seeBe honest, you wouldn’t recognise a good manager if you saw one.
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Blimey. You can take the man out of Millwall...13
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Haha that’s why the vast majority of us were pleased to see him go. Loved him as a player, loved him as a bloke, even loved him as a L1 manager. But could recognise his limitations as a manager. He had such a touch falling in to the Cardiff job. His friendship with Warnock May have helped.Callumcafc said:Blimey. You can take the man out of Millwall...Anyway, taken the thread off subject a bit. Sorry lol2 -
I like Harris which makes me feel I should wash my mouth out.2
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MillwallFan said:
Yeah, I wouldn’t recognise a good manager if I saw one. Incidentally, here’s some of Harris’ stats since he took over at cardiff...Redrobo said:
Is this the Harris that is managing a side in the playoffs tonight?ŴMillwallFan said:
I wouldn’t put your relegation down to him either. I think without all the back room shenanigans he’d probably have kept you up this season. The following season he may have got found out. Same as Harris did. That’s the pattern those type of managers tend to take.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
...just my opinion .I’m not making that judgement on where you finished in the table. More from the type of decisions he makes during a match and listening to pre and post match interviews etc.That’s not a dig at the man. I think he has done brilliant at Charlton, What with all the crap he’s had to endure, getting you promoted last year etc but I just think he’s limited to that sort of level, L1... lower championship maybe? Can’t see him managing a premier league club, or a club aspiring to be PL anytime soon.As I say, just my opinion, and I may get proven wrong. We’ll seeBe honest, you wouldn’t recognise a good manager if you saw one.League Position - 5thIt doesnt matter if you play shit football if you are winning matches6 -
Everyone is possessed by stats nowadays, the only one that matters is the score.
Do we want marks for artistic impression or just the team scoring most goals gets the points?1 -
Lee Bowyer is set for talks with Charlton Athletic’s board at the start of next week
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As much as he loves the club, he'd be mad to stayForeverAddickted said:
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Hmmm, not so sure shit football can keep you winning matches at championship level. It can only last so long. Simplistic football gets found out in the championship.CAFCsayer said:MillwallFan said:
Yeah, I wouldn’t recognise a good manager if I saw one. Incidentally, here’s some of Harris’ stats since he took over at cardiff...Redrobo said:
Is this the Harris that is managing a side in the playoffs tonight?ŴMillwallFan said:
I wouldn’t put your relegation down to him either. I think without all the back room shenanigans he’d probably have kept you up this season. The following season he may have got found out. Same as Harris did. That’s the pattern those type of managers tend to take.ShootersHillGuru said:
Even though you enjoy this forum I really don’t think you have any, not even the slightest idea just what Bowyer has had to endure during his time in charge. Even then he got the team promoted and I suspect you’ll struggle to get more than a couple of people on this site who put our relegation down to Bowyer.MillwallFan said:Good motivational manager, not sure about him as a footballing tactician. A bit like Neil Harris. Loves a sound bite. Probably more suited to L1 if I’m honest
...just my opinion .I’m not making that judgement on where you finished in the table. More from the type of decisions he makes during a match and listening to pre and post match interviews etc.That’s not a dig at the man. I think he has done brilliant at Charlton, What with all the crap he’s had to endure, getting you promoted last year etc but I just think he’s limited to that sort of level, L1... lower championship maybe? Can’t see him managing a premier league club, or a club aspiring to be PL anytime soon.As I say, just my opinion, and I may get proven wrong. We’ll seeBe honest, you wouldn’t recognise a good manager if you saw one.League Position - 5thIt doesnt matter if you play shit football if you are winning matchesI saw it with my own eyes at Millwall. First season back up we had a blinder. Second season we struggled bad. Third season looked like it was going the same way until he graciously bailed out.Nothing but respect for the fella, but limited as a championship manager imo1 -
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I don't quite get this. Why is a Millwall fan regularly contributing to our forum? It seems just as strange that Lifers routinely engage with him. Nothing personal, of course - just weird. I wouldn't dream of trawling round the Millwall forum, trying to be friends with their fans...2
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Bowyer has had every opportunity to walk away ,he has not left,I am sure he will give Charlton every consideration before he considers his options.Other than the obvious shambles in the boardroom,we have a very inexperienced management team,JJ only just retired from playing and Bowyer very new to the job,they could have done with a wise old head,(Curbs) ,in the background to turn to .0
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Morning.Viewfinder said:I don't quite get this. Why is a Millwall fan regularly contributing to our forum? It seems just as strange that Lifers routinely engage with him. Nothing personal, of course - just weird. I wouldn't dream of trawling round the Millwall forum, trying to be friends with their fans...24 -
I don't mind other fans on here as long as its a reasoned discussion rather than just abusive stuff or gloating.Viewfinder said:I don't quite get this. Why is a Millwall fan regularly contributing to our forum? It seems just as strange that Lifers routinely engage with him. Nothing personal, of course - just weird. I wouldn't dream of trawling round the Millwall forum, trying to be friends with their fans...
BBW and MillawalFan are ok in my book.16 -
I’d have a chat about football with a Charlton fan over a pint in a pub, don’t see much difference tbh.Always try to keep it respectful as aware it’s not my board.24
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Grim indeed but he’s sounding more like he’s going to stay then he did last weekeaststandmike said:1 -
Same as you,have many friends who support Millwall,nothing wrong with football discussions between fans of different clubs.MillwallFan said:I’d have a chat about football with a Charlton fan over a pint in a pub, don’t see much difference tbh.Always try to keep it respectful as aware it’s not my board.11 -
To be honest the size of the current squad is the least of my concerns, when the future of the club itself is completely up in the airForeverAddickted said:
Obviously any manager will want a decent squad earlier, so that he can plan for preseason etc, but come September, if the ownership is resolved, then I'm confident that we'd be able to assemble a competitive squad, especially as the window will be open until October1 -
Enjoy your contributions Millwall fan you are welcome in my opinion
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palice filth aside.thickandthin63 said:
Same as you,have many friends who support Millwall,nothing wrong with football discussions between fans of different clubs.MillwallFan said:I’d have a chat about football with a Charlton fan over a pint in a pub, don’t see much difference tbh.Always try to keep it respectful as aware it’s not my board.2
