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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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Assists will do fine.Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?1 -
We were told that we had 5 or 6 "lined up" and bows was expecting 3 on Friday. I wasnt expecting a truck load to be announced by noon today but I thought there would have been a sniff of something by now. I'm not worried in the least as I know there will be a few more bodies in by the end of the transfer deadline, but not as many as everyone on here thinks & certainly not some of the names mentioned.ValleyGary said:
We’ve just signed two new players and it’s been just one ‘working day’ since the takeover.golfaddick said:Has anyone told SG & LB that the transfer embargo has ended. Seems like the memo never reached them.Stop being a massive wally all the time.2 -
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6 8 -
He got 6 assists in the 7 games he played for Hull?ButtleJR said:
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6 1 -
I hate what we're told his attitude is, but that's a decent assist ratio.ButtleJR said:
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6 2 -
A new signing could perhaps be better than some of the names mentioned?golfaddick said:
We were told that we had 5 or 6 "lined up" and bows was expecting 3 on Friday. I wasnt expecting a truck load to be announced by noon today but I thought there would have been a sniff of something by now.ValleyGary said:
We’ve just signed two new players and it’s been just one ‘working day’ since the takeover.golfaddick said:Has anyone told SG & LB that the transfer embargo has ended. Seems like the memo never reached them.Stop being a massive wally all the time.
I'm not worried in the least as I know there will be a few more bodies in by the end of the transfer deadline, but not as many as everyone on here thinks & certainly not some of the names mentioned.
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I think those are the 7 games he played for peterborough last year.Cafc43v3r said:
He got 6 assists in the 7 games he played for Hull?ButtleJR said:
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6 0 -
He played 21 games for the posh last seasonJoshAddick said:
I think those are the 7 games he played for peterborough last year.Cafc43v3r said:
He got 6 assists in the 7 games he played for Hull?ButtleJR said:
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6 0 -
I kind-of agree but the best strikers are the ones who can make a half chance out of nothing with a bit of skill or from reading the game and taking an educated gamble. Taylor had that. Bonne doesn't appear to (yet)MuttleyCAFC said:A couple of thoughts: We desperately need a midfielder who can score goals. Maddison is that sort of player. I am still scratching my head thinking about all the chances Bowyer said our strikers missed yesterday. Washington early doors yes. Then we are talking about half chances at best.cafc_se7 said:I would have MM over Andre Green. Simply because MM is proven at this level and his dead ball ability is ridiculous!0 -
We need bodies clearly. Personally not a fan of Maddison’s character but it’s all about getting out of League One and I think the likes of Maddison offers more creativity than anyone in our current squad, so I’d sign him up. Ultimately if Bows thinks Steven Taylor, Marcus Maddison etc are the ones to get us out of this league, then I’ll back him and them.
I’d love to be signing players that will be heroes here for many years to come but ultimately we cannot fall into the trap of looking too far ahead and then finding ourselves in the same league next year.0 -
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They're his stats from the sky sports website. Worth mentioning that Posh had a striker capable of finishing in all of those seasons though!Cafc43v3r said:
He got 6 assists in the 7 games he played for Hull?ButtleJR said:
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6 3 -
Played 308 games, scored 80 and 100 assists...ButtleJR said:
He's more known for his assists, his delivery into the box is first class...Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?Season Appearances Assists 2016/17 48 18 2017/18 53 22 2018/19 46 22 2019/20 7 6
Last season he had the following stats:
P33, G11, A 8. 19 goal interactions in total and 1 goal interaction in his 7 at Hull (1GS, 0A in the championship)
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Covid related rebudgetingCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?0 -
Maddison is a very good player at this level with a very good goal and assist record, though it's probably helped that Posh tend to play attacking football, and he has had excellent attacking players around him, the likes of Toney, Eisa, Godden and Marriott3
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Every successful team needs an arrogant arse hole! Home fans see it as talent rather than arrogance and way fans target the player which generally works against them.....Taylor v Luton last year.Charlton need a flair player with attitude, that’s Marcus Maddison and not Jake Forster caskey!!2
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Yeah fudge it. I am certain Bowyer would either straighten him out or fling him out on loan if it were to not work out. #letsdothis3
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golfaddick said:Has anyone told SG & LB that the transfer embargo has ended. Seems like the memo never reached them.Anyone told golfie the takeover has happened and we can be positive about things 😀6
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It doesn't make any sense that prices would have gone up now that the takeover's complete. 'Yeah, while you're under a transfer embargo you can have this player for £500,000 on £1,500 a week, he'll come in once a new owner is installed and it's lifted. Transfer embargo's lifted you say? Oh, then it's £2m and he wants £4,000 a week, the person we knew was going to take you over has taken over and we've somehow only just realised he has money. I appreciate that takeovers can sometimes push prices up but not when there was no deal to be had until the takeover happened; any negotiation would have been on the basis of the takeover happening.Having said that, I'm a little confused that we haven't brought more people in. We are desperate for reinforcements and I'm surprised that we didn't have more ready to go straight away. I really thought we'd have four in by now. Let's just hope we get a deluge of them in over the next day or two as I really don't want another Roland-style season where every injury becomes a promotion threatening setback.1
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Not to sound rude, but I suggest you read up on what football agents have done to the market over the past two decades.Garrymanilow said:It doesn't make any sense that prices would have gone up now that the takeover's complete. 'Yeah, while you're under a transfer embargo you can have this player for £500,000 on £1,500 a week, he'll come in once a new owner is installed and it's lifted. Transfer embargo's lifted you say? Oh, then it's £2m and he wants £4,000 a week, the person we knew was going to take you over has taken over and we've somehow only just realised he has money. I appreciate that takeovers can sometimes push prices up but not when there was no deal to be had until the takeover happened; any negotiation would have been on the basis of the takeover happening.Having said that, I'm a little confused that we haven't brought more people in. We are desperate for reinforcements and I'm surprised that we didn't have more ready to go straight away. I really thought we'd have four in by now. Let's just hope we get a deluge of them in over the next day or two as I really don't want another Roland-style season where every injury becomes a promotion threatening setback.Some will have 100% tried to get more money since the takeover, and that could be one of a few reasons why we haven’t moved quicker to get deals over the line.1 -
I don't need to read up on agents thanks, what I'm saying is that people who think the takeover has pushed prices up are saying that teams and agents will have negotiated deals based on 'this will go through once Sandgaard takes over because it literally can't happen otherwise' and then once he's taken over have pushed up prices because the only thing that could make a deal happen in the first place has happened. Nothing has actually changed, the deal will have been negotiated on the basis that Sandgaard is the owner. These aren't deals negotiated with one owner in mind who then switched to another.ElliotCAFC said:
Not to sound rude, but I suggest you read up on what football agents have done to the market over the past two decades.Garrymanilow said:It doesn't make any sense that prices would have gone up now that the takeover's complete. 'Yeah, while you're under a transfer embargo you can have this player for £500,000 on £1,500 a week, he'll come in once a new owner is installed and it's lifted. Transfer embargo's lifted you say? Oh, then it's £2m and he wants £4,000 a week, the person we knew was going to take you over has taken over and we've somehow only just realised he has money. I appreciate that takeovers can sometimes push prices up but not when there was no deal to be had until the takeover happened; any negotiation would have been on the basis of the takeover happening.Having said that, I'm a little confused that we haven't brought more people in. We are desperate for reinforcements and I'm surprised that we didn't have more ready to go straight away. I really thought we'd have four in by now. Let's just hope we get a deluge of them in over the next day or two as I really don't want another Roland-style season where every injury becomes a promotion threatening setback.Some will have 100% tried to get more money since the takeover, and that could be one of a few reasons why we haven’t moved quicker to get deals over the line.
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All this talk about Maddison, have we been linked?0
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I too thought the signings were good to go at some point subject to the takeover. The delay may have changed things in relation to some if other options appear. I am sure Gallen and Bowyer will have targeted decent players so wouldn't be a surprise if they interest other clubs.
Turning that around a bit. Whilst they might have been decent in terms of a certain budget, it is also possible the budget has increased so we are looking for better more expensive players.
I'm sure we shall find out soon enough. We certainly need a few more in for our next league game.2 -
No.RedRobin said:All this talk about Maddison, have we been linked?
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:No idea who this kid is but surely we are now in a position to aim higher than a player who was at a team in Div One Central of the Southern League?!
Chris, I would tend to agree with you if it was for the 1st team, but my local team Whyteleafe; in the south section of the Isthmian League have just seen a 19 year old sign for Fulham for their U21 and a 17 year old play in a trial match for west ham u18 at the weekend.
The 17 year old had started every match this season for the first team.
The worst loss is the assistant manager and coach Callum McFarland who was brilliant at spotting young talent and left on Saturday to take up a job at Man City U15's.
That is quite a jump from step 4 and 8th tier of the football pyramid.
Joe Aribo and Josh Maja (ex Sunderland and now Bordeaux) both came under his and Harry Hudson(Whyteleafe manager) tutelage at Kinetic foundation. Josh Maja is a London boy and was born in Lewisham.
Joe Aribo as a youngster was known as
"Mr Tickle" because of his long arms.
He also played as a CB and learnt his ball skills by playing cage football.
Not a lot of people know that !
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How do you know? The deals are more than likely freebies that have been financed via wages from former players. We've had a fair chunk of wage budget to spend on replacements, however, we couldn't due to an embargo.Garrymanilow said:
I don't need to read up on agents thanks, what I'm saying is that people who think the takeover has pushed prices up are saying that teams and agents will have negotiated deals based on 'this will go through once Sandgaard takes over because it literally can't happen otherwise' and then once he's taken over have pushed up prices because the only thing that could make a deal happen in the first place has happened. Nothing has actually changed, the deal will have been negotiated on the basis that Sandgaard is the owner. These aren't deals negotiated with one owner in mind who then switched to another.ElliotCAFC said:
Not to sound rude, but I suggest you read up on what football agents have done to the market over the past two decades.Garrymanilow said:It doesn't make any sense that prices would have gone up now that the takeover's complete. 'Yeah, while you're under a transfer embargo you can have this player for £500,000 on £1,500 a week, he'll come in once a new owner is installed and it's lifted. Transfer embargo's lifted you say? Oh, then it's £2m and he wants £4,000 a week, the person we knew was going to take you over has taken over and we've somehow only just realised he has money. I appreciate that takeovers can sometimes push prices up but not when there was no deal to be had until the takeover happened; any negotiation would have been on the basis of the takeover happening.Having said that, I'm a little confused that we haven't brought more people in. We are desperate for reinforcements and I'm surprised that we didn't have more ready to go straight away. I really thought we'd have four in by now. Let's just hope we get a deluge of them in over the next day or two as I really don't want another Roland-style season where every injury becomes a promotion threatening setback.Some will have 100% tried to get more money since the takeover, and that could be one of a few reasons why we haven’t moved quicker to get deals over the line.
To say nothing has actually changed is a bit baffling. Over the weekend, we've gone from a club on the brink to a club with cash in the bank and a cash-rich extravert owner who has no prior football experience. Even Simon Jordan said today Sandaard must learn quickly as clubs and agents will look to take the piss as much as they can.
To say nothing has changed and this shouldn't change agents asking prices sounds naive to me.0 -
You can not seriously compare Maddison with Oztumer?Cafc43v3r said:
His league 1 goals per game is considerably worse than Oztumer's. At 6 years at Peterborough he didn't get promoted did he?Pelling1993 said:
Look at his record in league one, that's why he would be good in league oneCafc43v3r said:Sorry I have to disagree with most people. If Marcus Maddison is so bloody good why is he unemployed and couldn't get a game at the only championship team worse than us last season.
The guy has played 7 games in the championship in his whole career. He is 27.
Why hasn't a championship club, or a league 1 club that weren't a basket case in August, or an SPL team taken him?
Like I said he can't be that good, can he?
Maddison is much better. Also didn't win promotion with Posh? That Is such a silly argurment. I didnt know it came down to 1 player for promotion...? We got relegated with Josh Cullen was that his fault? They also never got promoted with Ivan Toney.
Again, anyone who is seriously turning their nose up to Maddison when you see our current sqaud and our last 2 performances I would love to know what alternatives you think are out there.
Oh, and just for the record I think he a bit of a prat as well but he is a bloody good footballer. (Hence why Peterbourgh offered him their highest ever wage deal)2 -
Not a rumour involving a Charlton signing... More a rumour that involves helping us in the market...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/west-brom-in-talks-over-18m-deal-for-championship-man/
20% sell on (?) would result in us getting £3.6m from the Karlan Grant sale, sadly it could be a loan deal first with West Brom playing £18m if they stay up1 -
Shame that it sounds like it might be a loan deal which might not be much use in the short term.ForeverAddickted said:Not a rumour involving a Charlton signing... More a rumour that involves helping us in the market...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/west-brom-in-talks-over-18m-deal-for-championship-man/
20% sell on (?) would result in us getting £3.6m from the Karlan Grant sale
Happier though to think that sell on fees might now be going to someone more trustworthy than before1 -
Damn, that'll teach me to read the article firstMattF said:
Shame that it sounds like it might be a loan deal which might not be much use in the short term.ForeverAddickted said:Not a rumour involving a Charlton signing... More a rumour that involves helping us in the market...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/west-brom-in-talks-over-18m-deal-for-championship-man/
20% sell on (?) would result in us getting £3.6m from the Karlan Grant sale
Happier though to think that sell on fees might now be going to someone more trustworthy than before0 -
All fair points and i did say i've got no idea about him. He might be the non league Messi for all i know.soapboxsam said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:No idea who this kid is but surely we are now in a position to aim higher than a player who was at a team in Div One Central of the Southern League?!
Chris, I would tend to agree with you if it was for the 1st team, but my local team Whyteleafe; in the south section of the Isthmian League have just seen a 19 year old sign for Fulham for their U21 and a 17 year old play in a trial match for west ham u18 at the weekend.
The 17 year old had started every match this season for the first team.
The worst loss is the assistant manager and coach Callum McFarland who was brilliant at spotting young talent and left on Saturday to take up a job at Man City U15's.
That is quite a jump from step 4 and 8th tier of the football pyramid.
Joe Aribo and Josh Maja (ex Sunderland and now Bordeaux) both came under his and Harry Hudson(Whyteleafe manager) tutelage at Kinetic foundation. Josh Maja is a London boy and was born in Lewisham.
Joe Aribo as a youngster was known as
"Mr Tickle" because of his long arms.
He also played as a CB and learnt his ball skills by playing cage football.
Not a lot of people know that !
How old is Carvalho? Someone mentioned he's at Aylesbury but at their level do players even have proper contracts? Could he not have moved higher in non league? Can't find anything about him for them anyway, from what i saw it looked like he was at Enfield.0
