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Grant loan deal to West Brom

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Just seen this. If he goes to the Baggies on loan I guess that's our sell on money on hold for now.
https://www.footballfancast.com/west-brom-transfer-rumours/baggies-latest-news-karlan-grant-rumours-bid-loan-swoop-dowling-signing-slaven-bilic-pl-gossip
https://www.footballfancast.com/west-brom-transfer-rumours/baggies-latest-news-karlan-grant-rumours-bid-loan-swoop-dowling-signing-slaven-bilic-pl-gossip
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Why would you loan your top scorer to someone in the league above? Is that just a move to increase his value for when they eventually sell him?2
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Not actually bothered by this. Think it's only a matter of time before Grant leaves Hudds (unlike Gomez who could easily stay at Liverpool for the majority of his career). Doesn't seem like we're desperate for money right now so don't think it's a big issue.
Could work in our favour. Get promoted, pocket 3-4 mil and use it to build a decent championship squad.0 -
So ..... West Brom are 'renting' Grant for a season for only £5m , but obligated to pay a further £13m should they stay up?
Is that arrangement watertight - for example, say Grant scores 10 goals before Christmas, could Hudds then recall him in the January window and flog him to say Villa for £30m?
Otherwise should West Brom be relegated at the end of the season, does that mean Grant returns to Hudds?
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Oggy Red said:So ..... West Brom are 'renting' Grant for a season for only £5m , but obligated to pay a further £13m should they stay up?
Is that arrangement watertight - for example, say Grant scores 10 goals before Christmas, could Hudds then recall him and flog him to say Villa for £30m?
Otherwise should West Brom be relegated at the end of the season, does that mean Grant returns to Hudds?
Or even worse if he does well and they go down. He scores 20 and he's suddenly valued at 25mil but West Brom don't get the benefits.0 -
cafcfan1990 said:Oggy Red said:So ..... West Brom are 'renting' Grant for a season for only £5m , but obligated to pay a further £13m should they stay up?
Is that arrangement watertight - for example, say Grant scores 10 goals before Christmas, could Hudds then recall him and flog him to say Villa for £30m?
Otherwise should West Brom be relegated at the end of the season, does that mean Grant returns to Hudds?
Anyway, many 'loan' agreements come at a price ....... basically you 'rent' the player for a given period - and pay a fee for doing so.
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We will be due a percentage of profit on him so as long as the original deal was structured correctly we will be due a percentage of that £5m now over the original fee.1
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Oggy Red said:cafcfan1990 said:Oggy Red said:So ..... West Brom are 'renting' Grant for a season for only £5m , but obligated to pay a further £13m should they stay up?
Is that arrangement watertight - for example, say Grant scores 10 goals before Christmas, could Hudds then recall him and flog him to say Villa for £30m?
Otherwise should West Brom be relegated at the end of the season, does that mean Grant returns to Hudds?
Anyway, many 'loan' agreements come at a price ....... basically you 'rent' the player for a given period - and pay a fee for doing so.0 -
buckshee said:We will be due a percentage of profit on him so as long as the original deal was structured correctly we will be due a percentage of that £5m now over the original fee.0
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i expect to be in the prem for this season only - yes prem football but to play in 2 relegated prem sides isnt great for your value nor your cv.0
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Suspect Huddersfield want him off the wage bill, and West Brom want convincing he can do it again in the Premier League0
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palarsehater said:i expect to be in the prem for this season only - yes prem football but to play in 2 relegated prem sides isnt great for your value nor your cv.
Wouldnt be too bothered about a Striker being relegated twice compared to a Goalkeeper or Defender
If Grant can get double figures then it wont really harm his reputation, in fact will enhance it as a Striker as a be a sign he can score goals for a struggling team2 -
ForeverAddickted said:palarsehater said:i expect to be in the prem for this season only - yes prem football but to play in 2 relegated prem sides isnt great for your value nor your cv.
Wouldnt be too bothered about a Striker being relegated twice compared to a Goalkeeper or Defender
If Grant can get double figures then it wont really harm his reputation, in fact will enhance it as a Striker as a be a sign he can score goals for a struggling team1 -
palarsehater said:i expect to be in the prem for this season only - yes prem football but to play in 2 relegated prem sides isnt great for your value nor your cv.5
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I think the £5m loan fee has to be classed as part of the transfer fee. I suppose it becomes a small print job.1
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It's a smart deal for the cashflow.
Effectively a £18m transfer with the ability to not be committed to a player (and just lose the £5m if relegated).
Especially as if they stay up he would have no doubt had a hand in it and you would therefore probably want him anyway.
Good business.1 -
20% of £5m is £1m, 10%, £500k. Does anybody know our percentage?0
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iaitch said:palarsehater said:i expect to be in the prem for this season only - yes prem football but to play in 2 relegated prem sides isnt great for your value nor your cv.
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MuttleyCAFC said:20% of £5m is £1m, 10%, £500k. Does anybody know our percentage?1
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cafcfan1990 said:buckshee said:We will be due a percentage of profit on him so as long as the original deal was structured correctly we will be due a percentage of that £5m now over the original fee.0
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I heard Huddersfield and WBA got Freshfields to look at the sell on clause.8
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A deal that works for both clubs.
WBA get him cheaply and if he does well and they stay up they've got a bargain. If they go down then they've lost 5m, but they could go and buy a striker for 30m and still go down.
Huddersfield get 5m now and get him off the wage bill and can't lose really. If WBA stay up then they get the full transfer fee, if he scores goals but they still go down his value might increase and they could sell him for more, and even if he does shit and they go down then they've got their player back but made 5m.
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Ben18 said:iaitch said:palarsehater said:i expect to be in the prem for this season only - yes prem football but to play in 2 relegated prem sides isnt great for your value nor your cv.
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I wonder what the position is in terms of us getting a percentage of the £5m. It is a fee, not the paying of his wages whilst on loan. It could be likened to payment in instalments with a get out. Maybe one for Freshfields to look at or maybe there isn't a dispute.
What we could argue is if the player is sold, that £5m is part of the sale price or it could be used to avoid financial obligations to us.2