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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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Sage said:Addick Addict said:LB on Phillips:
“What’s Dillon going to do if he doesn’t go? He is going to sit there not playing any games and is going to be forgotten next summer – no-one is going to take him."
Sorry don't buy that. A keeper of Phillips quality doesn't get "forgotten about". A home grown keeper of Phillips' quality on a free even less so. He will either get a place as a Championship number one or back up in the PL a la Elliott at Newcastle.
If he doesn’t get a move now and waits until next summer, clubs are going to forget about him. They’ll instead go for players who have been playing well this season, not someone who refused to sign a contract and not played for a year.
He has had one full season in professional football in his entire career, that was last season. He’s 25 now, will be 26 by the time his contract is up. One full season by 26 is not going to attract many Championship clubs, that’s for sure, even with how good he was last season.
Players do listen to their agents far too much, forgetting the only reason they’re saying the things they do is because they have an agenda themselves, money.
If Phillips was really in demand, and clubs genuinely wanted him, he’d be gone by now.
The fact is, there may be interest but not enough to get a deal done for him to be playing at Championship level. That’s what he needs, there is no point him signing for another club to just sit on the bench.
He’d have been better off signing a deal with us, helping us get back up and then looking to move even if we do or do not get promoted this season.
But, accepting that no one might come in for him, there is another issue. What if Amos gets injured and Phillips then refuses to play or even sit on the bench because of the way he's been treated? He could argue that we have a history of signing players on 12 month contracts (or with less than that left) but continue to play them, so why are we singling him out? He could also argue that, in keeping him out of the shop window, we have been detrimental to his career and restricted the possibility of him being sold. If the "out of sight, out of mind argument" hold water does it have to have a timescale?
My concern is that we have now had Solly, Taylor and Davis who all refused to play for LB. Bonne said that he left because he didn't feel wanted after being publicly singled out for criticism and we don't appear to have found a ready made replacement for him. We have an impasse with Phillips and Doughty might well be the next to up sticks too. With the other departures, by my reckoning, that will leave us with no more than three or four players who played 20 plus games last season and they are hardly the ones who are going to be the difference between us being successful or not.
In not playing Phillips and with him still being on the books we will end up paying him to sit at home. In those circumstances Phillips won't be the only loser. And that's all without taking into account that he is the best keeper we have at the club.2 -
golfaddick said:floydroadfaithfull said:Apparently we've just signed Chris gunter on a 2 year deal
I've had a look on xhamster but can't find that category.3 -
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Dansk_Red said:CAFC could negotciate with Phillips and come to an arrangement to cancel his contract before the window shuts, thus making him a free agent.
well if he's with us till next June doing nothing we won't get a fee then so may as well get his wages off the books if we can surely?0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Dansk_Red said:CAFC could negotciate with Phillips and come to an arrangement to cancel his contract before the window shuts, thus making him a free agent.0
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jacob_CAFC said:
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.4 -
Is that a true story or bogusz?23
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jacob_CAFC said:
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.
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killerandflash said:Weegie Addick said:We could always pick up Gunnersaurus now that Arsenal have released him? Passes the height test, though looks slightly less mobile than Aneke.
Ozil doesn't have the same workrate as Gunnersaurus.2 -
jacob_CAFC said:
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.
Season before he was in the polish 3rd tier
Now going to a club in the spanish 2nd tier(with 1 point from their opening 3 games)
Personally not to disappointed he is going elsewhere9 -
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I'm not disappointed because he's a sodding midfielder11
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jacob_CAFC said:
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.
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jacob_CAFC said:
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.
Someone tell Bowyer and the coaching staff we absolutely do not need another midfielder.
Bloody clueless the lot of them.
Etc etc
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soapboxsam said:killerandflash said:Weegie Addick said:We could always pick up Gunnersaurus now that Arsenal have released him? Passes the height test, though looks slightly less mobile than Aneke.
Ozil doesn't have the same workmate as Gunnersaurus.1 -
Comeonyoureds said:floydroadfaithfull said:Apparently we've just signed Chris gunter on a 2 year deal
We've now had Williams, Lockyer, Matthews, Ledley (albeit not for long) and Levitt. Now about to sign Gunter, can't be coincidence surely. It's just a shame Bale didn't sign.0 -
The good thing about Gunter joining us now is that he can train with his teammates Jonny and Levitt at the Wales camp!0
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cafc4life said:id rather we stuck with Amos now. Phillips has had what 1? 2 at a push, good seasons. Even that, he was at fault for a number of late dropped points last season. Hull/Millwall at home, Brum away ETC. if we doesnt wasnt to be here, fuck him off and let him play for the under 23s if he dont get his move.
Time clubs started doing something about mercenary footballers who quite happily pick up an extortionate wage to do nothing. Too many think they can control and demand things which is a liberty.
Phillips is not a mercenary and has been brilliant for two seasons. Yes I was at Wembley but compared to De Gea, Loris and Pickford who can't go a month without a cock up, Dillon has been top notch. Nick Pope made 4 mistakes in his last match.
After spending so long as a number 2, before he proved himself in the 1st team. I would like to see him get a Championship move.
Ben Amos is a very tidy keeper.1 -
killerandflash said:The good thing about Gunter joining us now is that he can train with his teammates Jonny and Levitt at the Wales camp!2
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Another midfielder... We have about 9 of those.0
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billysboots said:killerandflash said:The good thing about Gunter joining us now is that he can train with his teammates Jonny and Levitt at the Wales camp!1
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We do have time left of course, but would it be unreasonable of me to fall into a miasma of "we could just not get it over the line" and feelings of "meh!" after the cut off?
I promise i really am trying to mosh it up with rock on Tommy, honest.0 -
soapboxsam said:cafc4life said:id rather we stuck with Amos now. Phillips has had what 1? 2 at a push, good seasons. Even that, he was at fault for a number of late dropped points last season. Hull/Millwall at home, Brum away ETC. if we doesnt wasnt to be here, fuck him off and let him play for the under 23s if he dont get his move.
Time clubs started doing something about mercenary footballers who quite happily pick up an extortionate wage to do nothing. Too many think they can control and demand things which is a liberty.
Phillips is not a mercenary and has been brilliant for two seasons. Yes I was at Wembley but compared to De Gea, Loris and Pickford who can't go a month without a cock up, Dillon has been top notch. Nick Pope made 4 mistakes in his last match.
After spending so long as a number 2, I would like to see him get a Championship move.1 -
paulie8290 said:golfaddick said:floydroadfaithfull said:Apparently we've just signed Chris gunter on a 2 year deal
Whats the rush we dont have a game until Wigan, 3 possibly 4(if we sign Gunter) players are currently away on international break anyway, get one in before they return(hopefully the perm) so he has a few days to bed in, then get another in(the loan from a pren team) before the deadline
No rush and we can make sure we get the right players not the wrong players1 -
billysboots said:soapboxsam said:cafc4life said:id rather we stuck with Amos now. Phillips has had what 1? 2 at a push, good seasons. Even that, he was at fault for a number of late dropped points last season. Hull/Millwall at home, Brum away ETC. if we doesnt wasnt to be here, fuck him off and let him play for the under 23s if he dont get his move.
Time clubs started doing something about mercenary footballers who quite happily pick up an extortionate wage to do nothing. Too many think they can control and demand things which is a liberty.
Phillips is not a mercenary and has been brilliant for two seasons. Yes I was at Wembley but compared to De Gea, Loris and Pickford who can't go a month without a cock up, Dillon has been top notch. Nick Pope made 4 mistakes in his last match.
After spending so long as a number 2, I would like to see him get a Championship move.1 -
I'm looking for the couple of signings that are going to elevate us. make promotion likely rather than possible. In the meantime Gunter looks sensible.0
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se9addick said:jacob_CAFC said:
Charlton had a loan interest in Leeds midfielder Mateusz Bogusz. But he is joining Spanish side UD Logrones.18 -
DONE DEAL - Sarr joins Bayern Munich
Bouna Sarr that is5 -
Very surprised nobody has signed Phillips. Amos is a more than adequate replacement.0
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In all honesty I’m just looking for us to pay a fee for a player and not loans or free agents. Would love to know when was the last time we paid say half million for a player? ( excluding any of the Roland Standard liege shenanigans)0
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GenevaCharlton said:In all honesty I’m just looking for us to pay a fee for a player and not loans or free agents. Would love to know when was the last time we paid say half million for a player? ( excluding any of the Roland Standard liege shenanigans)2