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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited October 2020
    Remember when we were in a relegation battle with a massacred squad and heading into the last day of the transfer window with still no reinforcements incoming? And everyone was calling those who were worrying 'bedwetters.'

    Now we have a new owner, no transfer embargo, some very decent signings in already and only a cap to overcome and because some bloke we'd never heard of, who might actually never have been signing anyway, didn't come in, people are falling to pieces.

    I really don't understand this site sometimes.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    edited October 2020
    So instead of signing for us, Schwartz would prefer to stay at Midtjylland with absolutely no prospect of any playing time.

    Says a lot for us then!
    Maybe a team near the bottom of the 3rd tier of English football wasn't that enticing....🤔
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,117
    Chunes said:
    Remember when we were in a relegation battle with a massacred squad and heading into the last day of the transfer window with still no reinforcements incoming? And everyone was calling those who were worrying 'bedwetters.'

    Now we have a new owner, no transfer embargo, some very decent signings in already and only a cap to overcome and because some bloke we'd never heard of, who might actually never have been signing anyway, didn't come in, people are falling to pieces.

    I really don't understand this site sometimes.
    It is the unknown factors of ‘salary cap’ and ‘decent signings already’ that mean people are jittery.  Add in a pandemic with no incoming revenue, you can understand why people are worried about the outcome. It is completely feasible that events could conspire to cause serious issues (even relegation) for a team that encountered all the above following relegation and most of their senior squad out of contract. It COULD be a perfect storm which we will hope does not happen but people are reasonably worried.  
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,569
    DubaiCAFC said:
    What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those. 

    £2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
    Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..

    Bonne had to go
    We may well do but he will be raw and probably have no first team experience and that’s who we will be relying on to fire us to promotion. Never works out well for us.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,523
    edited October 2020
    If Schwartz didn't want to sign for us, he's as bad as if not worse than Bonne. Good riddance. And welcome to the crazy world of the transfer market, Mr Sandgaard.
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,018
    edited October 2020
    So instead of signing for us, Schwartz would prefer to stay at Midtjylland with absolutely no prospect of any playing time.

    Says a lot for us then!
    Might say more about “him” tho...
  • SamE7
    SamE7 Posts: 276
    DubaiCAFC said:
    What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those. 

    £2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
    Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..

    Bonne had to go
    We may well do but he will be raw and probably have no first team experience and that’s who we will be relying on to fire us to promotion. Never works out well for us.
    You're right, Conor Gallagher wasn't very good come to think of it
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,983
    edited October 2020
    If Schwartz didn't want to sign us, he's as bad as if not worse than Bonne. Good riddance. And welcome to the crazy world of the transfer market, Mr Sandgaard.
    I don’t blame any foreign player for not committing to us with what’s going on at the moment. Perhaps for 2k a week he eventually decided it wasn’t enough to move himself and his family to a new country during a worldwide pandemic. Also explains why we may go back in January, so both he and we can see where the world and Charlton stand. So comparing to Bonne is very unfair.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,040

    Not too fussed that Schwartz hasn't happened in the end , think he might have been decent but when put in the current context of things I can understand staying in Denmark.

    Does make the striker hunt a bit harder now as domestically people will know we have the money from Bonne + any TS investment so could see some price hikes , but I trust Gallen and Bows to get 2 in. 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,477
    We need a striker in their peak and maybe a youngster on loan.
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,461
    Would the likes of Paddy madden or Gnanduillett have to take a pay cut to come to us?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited October 2020
    Or we need to get Aneke fit and keep him that way and if, and it is an if, Bowyer doesn't appreciate what Aneke can bring to the team, he needs to start doing so. I worry he pays too much attention to what he sees in training! I appreciate he couldn't play a full game on Saturday, but he was chronically underused at the end of last season. But when he came on defenders stood off him an extra half a yard. It was clearly noticeable.

    The season we got promoted, we were fortunate Taylor was fit throughout and maybe we are looking at these levels of luck. But maybe there are some good strikers being lined up. I haven't said there are not, it is just I am having difficulty identifying where they are going to come from. 

    My position was that Bonne shouldn't have been sold without a replacement. And he certainly shouldn't have been publicly blamed for missing chances against Lincoln that he didn't have.

    In his first season in a struggling side, he was a one in three championship striker. All those people not rating him can ignore that fact as much as they like. But it remains a fact and the reason QPR forked out £2m for him.  
  • So instead of signing for us, Schwartz would prefer to stay at Midtjylland with absolutely no prospect of any playing time.

    Says a lot for us then!
    Maybe a team near the bottom of the 3rd tier of English football wasn't that enticing....🤔
    Yes, I’m sure a professional footballer of 13 years would judge a team on their league position after 4 games!!!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Would the likes of Paddy madden or Gnanduillett have to take a pay cut to come to us?
    Probably, if you assume strikers are the best paid players at clubs AND the league average is 1.7k.  The 1st team striker average is probably about 3k?  With a lot on much more than that. 
  • Chunes said:
    Remember when we were in a relegation battle with a massacred squad and heading into the last day of the transfer window with still no reinforcements incoming? And everyone was calling those who were worrying 'bedwetters.'

    Now we have a new owner, no transfer embargo, some very decent signings in already and only a cap to overcome and because some bloke we'd never heard of, who might actually never have been signing anyway, didn't come in, people are falling to pieces.

    I really don't understand this site sometimes.
    Only sometimes?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited October 2020
    We do have a strong midfield and that is a big positive.
  • So instead of signing for us, Schwartz would prefer to stay at Midtjylland with absolutely no prospect of any playing time.

    Says a lot for us then!
    Maybe a team near the bottom of the 3rd tier of English football wasn't that enticing....🤔
    Do you know that the move didn’t happen for footballing reasons? The guy is 31, I’m assuming and yes this is an assumption without fact that he has a young family, moving to England, no help from parents and in laws, new schools, another new house. Maybe he decided the best thing for his family was to stay put and think about his family.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,461
    edited October 2020
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    It really doesn't matter why the move broke down. These things can and do. We don't know much about the player, we had to trust others on that. But at least if we had signed Schwartz a logic for selling Bonne would have appeared.
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,336
    The rebuild will be a slow process over quite a few transfer windows. 
    If Bowyer settles on a team and formation, and sticks with it then top half should be possible this season which will be a good first step. 
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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,750
    Never heard of the guy before this happened . 
    If he doesn’t wasn’t to come then that’s his loss . 
    We move on . 
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Schwartz not happening 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    DubaiCAFC said:
    What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those. 

    £2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
    Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..

    Bonne had to go
    We may well do but he will be raw and probably have no first team experience and that’s who we will be relying on to fire us to promotion. Never works out well for us.

    Maybe raw and no first team experience, but will still be better than Bonne! 
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    edited October 2020
    cafc4life said:
    Schwartz not happening 
    What he said 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    kentred2 said:
    The rebuild will be a slow process over quite a few transfer windows. 
    If Bowyer settles on a team and formation, and sticks with it then top half should be possible this season which will be a good first step. 
    I am not sure I agree with you.  3 of our last 4 promotions were teams put together during 12 months, or less. 

    Even Powell's master class in team building had a very different look to it at the end of the season compared to the opening day.

    Only 5 of our team that lost at Sunderland on the opening day played in the play off final.  Curbs play off final winning team included 6 players that made their debuts after the season started. 

    We are blatantly 4 players short, get the right ones of them in and we will look a totally different team. 


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    If Schwartz didn't want to sign us, he's as bad as if not worse than Bonne. Good riddance. And welcome to the crazy world of the transfer market, Mr Sandgaard.
    I don’t blame any foreign player for not committing to us with what’s going on at the moment. Perhaps for 2k a week he eventually decided it wasn’t enough to move himself and his family to a new country during a worldwide pandemic. Also explains why we may go back in January, so both he and we can see where the world and Charlton stand. So comparing to Bonne is very unfair.
    To be fair we could have offered £5k a week... If we really wanted him.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I think this salary cap is badly affecting us.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,171
    So instead of signing for us, Schwartz would prefer to stay at Midtjylland with absolutely no prospect of any playing time.

    Says a lot for us then!
    Maybe a team near the bottom of the 3rd tier of English football wasn't that enticing....🤔
    Yes, I’m sure a professional footballer of 13 years would judge a team on their league position after 4 games!!!
    Could well be nothing to do with Charlton as such.  At 31 he's highly likely to have a wife and kids - other personal reasons.  Massive upheaval for a 2 year(?) contract.  And we all know it wouldn't be a life changing income for him.  Will probably look around for a Danish team.  There are other reasons for not signing than football related ones...!
  • In all honesty I’m just looking for us to pay a fee for a player and not loans or free agents. Would love to know when was the last time we paid say half million for a player? ( excluding any of the Roland Standard liege shenanigans)
    Nicky ajose? 
    Wow a million pounds for a third division player, reminds when we signed the chap izael McLeod back in 08 for 1,5 m
    It’s great , miles behind reading this shit rather than shenanigans, way back on pg152 ...

    McLeod and Ajose the precursors to Bonne .....