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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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Agreed with this.. Pigott a backwards step! The club will be hoping for good loans like the last 2 seasons.cafcfan1990 said:Joe Pigott had one decent season. He's probably ok as 3rd/4th choice but I'd be looking for better.
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A Top 6 target is realistic and not an overly ambitious one from a new owner. It would have been easy to cite promotion, but since the takeover, he has mellowed with expectations knowing the reality of this being a slow process.
Let's not underplay the fact we have about 5 Club captains in our team (Pearce, Pratley, Watson, Osh, Gunter if he comes) alongside some good academy products. If (when I hope), we bring players in that can contribute to the areas the team is deficient, I will be silently positive that we can go on a winning run.1 -
It's like a therapy, if people can be so negative there's only room for pleasantly surprised.Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.I have to say I don't have bags of optimism for this window and think it'll take 2 years to get a top 6 squad, barring some Gallen magic. This season to get some quality in MM, Gilbey etc, then next year we'll shed some of the big wages like Williams and Ozzy and re-distribute with the cap fully in place. Also means existing contracts can't be extended for other clubs in the same rate.0 -
Joe "2 goals 4 assists in the league so far this season" Piggott?cafcfan1990 said:Joe Pigott had one decent season. He's probably ok as 3rd/4th choice but I'd be looking for better.
He's started well but I probably agree.1 -
First target is to avoid relegation.7
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Gnanduillet only moved to Turkey in August, so doubt his club would sell him already, plus now obviously can't until January anyway.carly burn said:Would the likes of Paddy madden or Gnanduillett have to take a pay cut to come to us?1 -
Lots of players on more than 2k a week will now be sitting out the rest of their contracts or if they are decent enough, pushing agents for a move to a lower championship team to get a lot more money. 2k a week wage cap (on average) is absolutely crazy and I fail to see how it is sustainable1
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You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.6 - Sponsored links:
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He had a poor season last time round but in 2018/19 scored 15 League goals for AFC WimbledonDazzler21 said:
Joe "2 goals 4 assists in the league so far this season" Piggott?cafcfan1990 said:Joe Pigott had one decent season. He's probably ok as 3rd/4th choice but I'd be looking for better.
He's started well but I probably agree.
Reminder that Lyle Taylor the year before him only scored 14 League goals for Wimbledon before joining us0 -
Other teams in the division aren't doing it on this budget, as they have players signed before the wage cap rules came inDazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.3 -
The correct terminology would be “to rehabilitate them” 😉Vfrf said:
Really don't think I could stomach us taking Millwall's youth to develop them...golfaddick said:Going out on a limb here.......
Millwall have recalled Isaac Olaofe from his loan spell at St Johnson. 21 next month & he's a striker.
Put me on your list @Dazzler21 🤫8 -
I think usually L1 clubs could compete for players who were second/third choice at a Championship club. If the average wage bill at a Championship club is £36M then our £2.5M will make it difficult to even manage that.Wheresmeticket? said:
So pretty much what L1 clubs usually have to do to get players in.killerandflash said:That leaves us with
a) loans from PL/Championship clubs
b) unwanted players at Championship clubs, prepared to take a pay cut
c) free agents
d) prizing someone from another L1 club
I think many underestimate the impact of the cap will have on us this season. Avery is amazing, but he’s not a miracle worker and I think that’s what we might need to get this squad where it needs to be to compete for promotion.1 -
Sorry Grammar police, what is your day job? School teacher?soapboxsam said:cafc4life said:Schwartz not happening
Is that a question or a statement ?
If question, no it's not happening.
If Statement; don't give up your day job.1 -
And, as someone mentioned yesterday, we are in London where costs are higher, especially housing. A player considering us or Accrington could buy a house far cheaper there than he can here.SheedyCAFC said:Unfortunately the wage cap means we are as equally as attractive to sign for as Accrington Stanley are. So when you remember that, it’s not surprising why someone from another country (during a pandemic and uncertainty) whose team just qualified to play in the Champions League doesn’t want to sign!4 -
Let's say Ipswich and Sunderland have spent the most in close season... Most other sides are vying for that play off spot. Most other sides voted for this salary cap. Most other sides will be paying players within the limits of the cap.golfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
If Bowyer is as good as many believe, then we will at least make top 6 this season. If we don't then we HAVE to get promoted next season.
Simple way to win over this rule is to buy up the best young talent, that were under 21 on 01/01/20201 -
We’re not relocating to Yeovil are we?golfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.2 -
No he didn'tDubaiCAFC said:
Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..MuttleyCAFC said:What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those.
£2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
Bonne had to go
Clubs do refuse to sell players. Or say they'll only sell someone when they have a replacement brought in. There was no rush to do the Bonne deal, it could have happened during the international break...or been cancelled if we couldn't get a replacement in
Last summer we didn't sell Taylor to Brentford, the previous summer we didn't sell Bauer to Blackburn, and that was under Roland. Both players got on with it.
If we were desperate for the cash, I could entirely understand selling Bonne without a replacement, but surely that's not the case now?3 -
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Not to mention Brexit.Todds_right_hook said:
Do you know that the move didn’t happen for footballing reasons? The guy is 31, I’m assuming and yes this is an assumption without fact that he has a young family, moving to England, no help from parents and in laws, new schools, another new house. Maybe he decided the best thing for his family was to stay put and think about his family.golfaddick said:
Maybe a team near the bottom of the 3rd tier of English football wasn't that enticing....🤔Chris_from_Sidcup said:So instead of signing for us, Schwartz would prefer to stay at Midtjylland with absolutely no prospect of any playing time.
Says a lot for us then!
Others have suggested revisiting a bid for him in January. Frankly, Brexit makes that implausible if not completely impossible.
A player of his standing seems unlikely to achieve sufficient "points" to get a permit. Indeed, the points system seems incompatible with the stupid salary cap. Apart from the usual international appearances criteria, the system seem skewed towards high level transfer fees and/or salaries, making getting foreign players into League 1 almost an impossibility I would have thought. Our scouts will have to trawl through UK backwaters such as Dungannon Swifts or whatever.0 -
We have to trust the process and assume that Bowyer thinks it’s a good deal for the club and that 2 mil is the top of the market for this player. Additionally we still don’t know the in-depth financial situation or understanding of the salary cap.killerandflash said:
No he didn'tDubaiCAFC said:
Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..MuttleyCAFC said:What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those.
£2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
Bonne had to go
Clubs do refuse to sell players. Or say they'll only sell someone when they have a replacement brought in. There was no rush to do the Bonne deal, it could have happened during the international break...or been cancelled if we couldn't get a replacement in
Last summer we didn't sell Taylor to Brentford, the previous summer we didn't sell Bauer to Blackburn, and that was under Roland. Both players got on with it.
If we were desperate for the cash, I could entirely understand selling Bonne without a replacement, but surely that's not the case now?I’d like to see where are we in 18 months and then make a judgement. Though I’m fully aware that results even in the short term will dictate at least some of the supporter feeling and there is a feeling we are going in the right direction.0 -
It may well be top of the market, but if you are ambitious for promotion, you have to factor in the ability to replace!0
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Once a player has his ‘head turned’ it’s quite difficult to then trust that player to give you 100% going forward.killerandflash said:
No he didn'tDubaiCAFC said:
Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..MuttleyCAFC said:What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those.
£2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
Bonne had to go
Clubs do refuse to sell players. Or say they'll only sell someone when they have a replacement brought in. There was no rush to do the Bonne deal, it could have happened during the international break...or been cancelled if we couldn't get a replacement in
Last summer we didn't sell Taylor to Brentford, the previous summer we didn't sell Bauer to Blackburn, and that was under Roland. Both players got on with it.
If we were desperate for the cash, I could entirely understand selling Bonne without a replacement, but surely that's not the case now?
To then reject an offer from a higher club and tell him ‘no, you’re staying here’ then any relationship starts cracking and that player won’t be the same for you again.
Add in the fact that LB didn’t really rate him anyway, I think it’s best for all parties he was allowed to leave.3 -
It is also possible to get them to knuckle down and get back on track when the window closes.0
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Fair but 7 in 34 last season. 15 in 18/19 was a good season, I'm not convinced from what I've seen he has the ability to come in and get 15 for us.Dazzler21 said:
Joe "2 goals 4 assists in the league so far this season" Piggott?cafcfan1990 said:Joe Pigott had one decent season. He's probably ok as 3rd/4th choice but I'd be looking for better.
He's started well but I probably agree.1 -
Bradley Wright-Phillips scored the Goals in the Chris Powell created team in League 1, and all the components of a successful side came together.
It was a shame that Bradley was more into his computer games (his words) as he was more than capable of improving his work rate and scoring goals in the Championship. Being called a lazy Bastard to his face after a home defeat in the League cup by some guys from the Covered end (in the west stand for that game) didn't help, and Bradley decided to try his luck in New York and become a prolific goal scorer in the MLS.
126 goals in 240 games for New York Red bull team has made him a legend with the fans.
Still playing and scoring for Los Angeles FC last time I checked.
Not bad for "a lazy Bastard"
I want a double act up front for Cafc.
Still feel gutted that the Grant and Taylor didn't last long enough and Taylor/Bonne would have worked and Bonne would've been more consistent playing alongside Lyle.
I'm watching many prolific goal scorers in lower League football, Joe Taylor 40 in 40 for Cray Wanderers but the step up is too great.
Steve Gallen has the network of contacts.
National League or League 2 goal scorers may have to be the answer.
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I totally agree, it's very very difficult. Maybe 2 loans is the way to go with strikers, and use the money left in the cap for the RB and CB.BR7_addick said:
Well there’s the problem, there isn’t a 1st choice available, they have to tick the wages box first and foremost, even Paddy Madden is on money above the cap.cafcfan1990 said:Joe Pigott had one decent season. He's probably ok as 3rd/4th choice but I'd be looking for better.0 -
I'd take a punt on Bogle personally.10
