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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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Danny Graham managed to hit the North Upper from inside the Covered End 6 yard box Saturday - thanks but no thanksgolfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.1 -
there is lined-up and there is signed, two completely different matters. Let's see where we are at 5pm on Friday week. Until then though Bonne's sale looks bad business to me.DubaiCAFC said:
He had to go, because he isn't good enough, if we didn't sell him then, we would have never have got 2 mill for him!killerandflash said:
No he didn'tDubaiCAFC said:
Plenty of time to find replacements, we will get a young forward on loan from the premier league..MuttleyCAFC said:What has happened is the Bonne sale has potentially turned into a massive error. With the salary cap it is going to be difficult to entice a striker of the required quality from another lower league club, if there is somebody we need around. There may be some young Premier League loanees that fit the bill but we will probably face Championship competition for the best of those.
£2m doesn't look such a great deal if it seriously lowers your chances of getting promoted. I am now waiting for a couple of rabbits of the attacking variety to be pulled out of the hat and hoping these are not left to the last minute, where we know things can go pear shaped!
Bonne had to go
Clubs do refuse to sell players. Or say they'll only sell someone when they have a replacement brought in. There was no rush to do the Bonne deal, it could have happened during the international break...or been cancelled if we couldn't get a replacement in
Last summer we didn't sell Taylor to Brentford, the previous summer we didn't sell Bauer to Blackburn, and that was under Roland. Both players got on with it.
If we were desperate for the cash, I could entirely understand selling Bonne without a replacement, but surely that's not the case now?
Players are lined up, and we won't get them overnight, it takes a bit of time!
With Bauer and Taylor they were too valuable to the side, so it was worth them playing out there contracts..1 -
His elder brother Sam is a mate of mine.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Not ITK or anything but I think we will try and get Joe Piggott back from Wimbledon. He's started well this season, will be on a reasonable wage, knows the club, Jacko knows him. All kind of falls into place.
I think I'll give him a call and see if he knows anything.5 -
But we are where we are - so why get your knickers in a twist!golfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
Bonne wanted to go so good luck to him.Trust SG and LB to get in the best players available to them. There is nothing you and I can do so relax!10 -
So Schwartz turned down a 3 year deal
https://beta.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/ronnie-schwartz-takkede-nej-til-tre-aar-i-charlton
The Minister of Plaffa could not finally see himself in Charlton, which was ready with a large contract over three years, bold.dk.
Last season's top scorer in the 3F Superliga, Ronnie Schwartz, has not played a single minute for FC Midtjylland this season, and the 31-year-old striker has long looked like a new man in League 1 club Charlton.
But a few hours before the transfer window closed on Monday, the Minister of Plaffa got cold feet and declined a change. This is what several sources tell bold.dk.
FC Midtjylland and Charlton, which have been taken over by the Danish rich man Thomas Sandgaard, otherwise agreed on a transfer fee of 2.5 million kroner, and the papers were signed between the clubs.
Ronnie Schwartz had negotiated a lucrative three-year agreement, which according to bold.dk's information would ensure him a significant salary jump compared to his current agreement in Central Jutland.
But when he had to put the famous signature on the deal on Monday night, he jumped at the chance.
Ronnie Schwartz had otherwise looked at the conditions in Charlton and visited the club, which in recent weeks has been hot to pick up the Danish bombs.
But an adventure abroad was not the right thing to do, and so trade fell to the ground.
Now the experienced striker has a big task ahead of him in trying to get back on the team card of the defending champions, who on Monday further strengthened their attacking position.
Here, FC Midtjylland picked up the German striker Luca Pfeiffer in the Würzburger Kickers on a four-year deal.
Ronnie Schwartz has a contract with FC Midtjylland until the summer of 2022.
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Crazy to turn that down as a 31-year old in all honesty!!
Sounds like we did all we could to try and push through and the player just didnt want to move23 -
Depends on the player and his ambition.golfaddick said:
And, as someone mentioned yesterday, we are in London where costs are higher, especially housing. A player considering us or Accrington could buy a house far cheaper there than he can here.SheedyCAFC said:Unfortunately the wage cap means we are as equally as attractive to sign for as Accrington Stanley are. So when you remember that, it’s not surprising why someone from another country (during a pandemic and uncertainty) whose team just qualified to play in the Champions League doesn’t want to sign!
If he wants to stick around the lower reaches of league one then sign for Accrington. If he wants to join a side with hopes of getting back to the championship then he'd join us.
8-10k a month is easily a good enough wage to live very comfortably down south. Surely these days with players moving around often, most players just rent anyway?1 -
3 year deal at that age and you decline it?
He must really not have wanted to be here.1 -
As a 32 year old, I can honestly say these comments sadden me.ForeverAddickted said:Crazy to turn that down as a 31-year old in all honesty!!
Sounds like we did all we could to try and push through and the player just didnt want to move
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A significant salary jump sounds promising, hopefully means we have a little more then most of us thought.3
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I wouldn't read into the salary jump line. They probably don't even know of the cap!
This shows the real world impacts of Covid. Moving country with the family in current times versus a pay rise and the security of a 3 year deal.8 -
I think the experience with Taylor shows us if a player wants out, you are better cashing in whilst you have a chance. Bonne admitted to having his head turned, his performances seemed to suggest that in my eyes. No point having a squad and salary place taken up by someone who's got one eye on the exit door.6
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It'll take time but hopefully under TS this won't be happening every 6 months!DessieValley said:I think the experience with Taylor shows us if a player wants out, you are better cashing in whilst you have a chance. Bonne admitted to having his head turned, his performances seemed to suggest that in my eyes. No point having a squad and salary place taken up by someone who's got one eye on the exit door.2 -
Because they have been 'shit' so far this season. I hope it comes good, but the performances have not been acceptable since the new seasons started. It might be a hangover from relegation. It might be the teams are bonding, but Bowyer teams usually start the season pretty strong after a tough, physical pre-season. Its not happened this time and we are on the backfoot. Fingers crossed it improves.Cafc43v3r said:
Some clubs have players on more money than others shocker.golfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
I think Lee Cattermole was on about half as much as our whole starting 11 at Wembley. That's before they bought on Grigg and McGeady.
Sunderland aren't the only other team in league 1. I bet some clubs can only dream of paying what we are to some of our players. Most clubs in this divison would bite your hand off for some of the "dross" we have.
I have never seen a group of players, who all have pedigree far higher than league 1, written off as being "shit" after 4 league games. Its, well, unique.1 -
Well the positive there is we are clearly dishing out decent contracts so no more worrying about players contracts running down and us getting a bad deal0
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At least Alfie didn't go Celtic.
I know there's another window to go still but hopefully hes staying.5 -
I guess contract length is one way around the salary cap? Pay him £2.5k pw over 3 years is same commitment as £3.75k pw over 2. Works for older players who know they wouldn't get a second or third year elsewhere4
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Schwartz didn't happen, move along.....1
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Three year deal and a "significant salary jump" - thats on his 4K a week! If true, that would really hurt our squad building in other areas.MattF said:So Schwartz turned down a 3 year deal
https://beta.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/ronnie-schwartz-takkede-nej-til-tre-aar-i-charlton
Midtjylland brought in another forward yesterday, so Schwartz now last in the pecking order of five strikers. And they usually only play one! Still, he sits on a decent contract.
Some comments in Denmark suggest he turned down the deal for family reasons. His spouse/girlfriend in the midst of studies in Denmark. As previously said: Quite sure we are better off!3 - Sponsored links:
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Ronnie S from FC Midgetland can go get stuffed! Curls his lip at 3 year deal? What a melt. He'd probably get a hangnail and spend more time bunging up the physios room than Chuks Aweaky anyway. We're better off without these narcissist muppets. Josh Parker on one leg would run rings around this Ron Black loser.MattF said:So Schwartz turned down a 3 year deal
https://beta.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/ronnie-schwartz-takkede-nej-til-tre-aar-i-charlton
The Minister of Plaffa could not finally see himself in Charlton, which was ready with a large contract over three years, bold.dk.
Last season's top scorer in the 3F Superliga, Ronnie Schwartz, has not played a single minute for FC Midtjylland this season, and the 31-year-old striker has long looked like a new man in League 1 club Charlton.
But a few hours before the transfer window closed on Monday, the Minister of Plaffa got cold feet and declined a change. This is what several sources tell bold.dk.
FC Midtjylland and Charlton, which have been taken over by the Danish rich man Thomas Sandgaard, otherwise agreed on a transfer fee of 2.5 million kroner, and the papers were signed between the clubs.
Ronnie Schwartz had negotiated a lucrative three-year agreement, which according to bold.dk's information would ensure him a significant salary jump compared to his current agreement in Central Jutland.
But when he had to put the famous signature on the deal on Monday night, he jumped at the chance.
Ronnie Schwartz had otherwise looked at the conditions in Charlton and visited the club, which in recent weeks has been hot to pick up the Danish bombs.
But an adventure abroad was not the right thing to do, and so trade fell to the ground.
Now the experienced striker has a big task ahead of him in trying to get back on the team card of the defending champions, who on Monday further strengthened their attacking position.
Here, FC Midtjylland picked up the German striker Luca Pfeiffer in the Würzburger Kickers on a four-year deal.
Ronnie Schwartz has a contract with FC Midtjylland until the summer of 2022.
Moving on.4 -
The minister of Plaffa?
What a shame. Covered end choir singing "minister of Plaffa, there's only one...etc" would have been a wonderful thing to hear.5 -
The voice of common sense and reason as always.Grapevine49 said:I hope the Schwarz deal works out in the end but we need to move on.
I was always far from comfortable with the Schwartz signing at this time. I had no problem with the signing per se, his CV or his playing style but quite simply viewed an international family relocation away from its usual environment in a global pandemic as being fraught with challenges.
Unlike many of the PL transfers we are probably not talking life changing sums being involved here.
I do not know but aged 31 he probably has a wife and kids but with Covid what could have been a fun couple of years just how is the family supposed to assimilate into a new country when every bugger is meant to be socially distancing and keeping themselves behind closed doors.
What happens if someone falls ill when the family support system is in another country.
I have no idea of the Covid situation in Denmark but even with the professional sports person exemptions how does his family easily move between the UK and the family back home.
So ultimately they may have had misgivings all the way through and in the end simply decided to stay home for now.
It is very likely it could have all worked out well but if in doubt ..then it is probably better to stay put
Or in Grapevine's case, the voice of raisin.....7 -
Bit early to be on the booze isn't it??StigThundercock said:
Ronnie S from FC Midgetland can go get stuffed! Curls his lip at 3 year deal? What a melt. He'd probably get a hangnail and spend more time bunging up the physios room than Chuks Aweaky anyway. We're better off without these narcissist muppets. Josh Parker on one leg would run rings around this Ron Black loser.MattF said:So Schwartz turned down a 3 year deal
https://beta.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/ronnie-schwartz-takkede-nej-til-tre-aar-i-charlton
The Minister of Plaffa could not finally see himself in Charlton, which was ready with a large contract over three years, bold.dk.
Last season's top scorer in the 3F Superliga, Ronnie Schwartz, has not played a single minute for FC Midtjylland this season, and the 31-year-old striker has long looked like a new man in League 1 club Charlton.
But a few hours before the transfer window closed on Monday, the Minister of Plaffa got cold feet and declined a change. This is what several sources tell bold.dk.
FC Midtjylland and Charlton, which have been taken over by the Danish rich man Thomas Sandgaard, otherwise agreed on a transfer fee of 2.5 million kroner, and the papers were signed between the clubs.
Ronnie Schwartz had negotiated a lucrative three-year agreement, which according to bold.dk's information would ensure him a significant salary jump compared to his current agreement in Central Jutland.
But when he had to put the famous signature on the deal on Monday night, he jumped at the chance.
Ronnie Schwartz had otherwise looked at the conditions in Charlton and visited the club, which in recent weeks has been hot to pick up the Danish bombs.
But an adventure abroad was not the right thing to do, and so trade fell to the ground.
Now the experienced striker has a big task ahead of him in trying to get back on the team card of the defending champions, who on Monday further strengthened their attacking position.
Here, FC Midtjylland picked up the German striker Luca Pfeiffer in the Würzburger Kickers on a four-year deal.
Ronnie Schwartz has a contract with FC Midtjylland until the summer of 2022.
Moving on.7 -
We have the same number of points from 4 games as we did when we got promoted. So what you actually mean is this is exactly the same as 50% of Bowyer's previous starts to the season?BalladMan said:
Because they have been 'shit' so far this season. I hope it comes good, but the performances have not been acceptable since the new seasons started. It might be a hangover from relegation. It might be the teams are bonding, but Bowyer teams usually start the season pretty strong after a tough, physical pre-season. Its not happened this time and we are on the backfoot. Fingers crossed it improves.Cafc43v3r said:
Some clubs have players on more money than others shocker.golfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
I think Lee Cattermole was on about half as much as our whole starting 11 at Wembley. That's before they bought on Grigg and McGeady.
Sunderland aren't the only other team in league 1. I bet some clubs can only dream of paying what we are to some of our players. Most clubs in this divison would bite your hand off for some of the "dross" we have.
I have never seen a group of players, who all have pedigree far higher than league 1, written off as being "shit" after 4 league games. Its, well, unique.
We have been shit, compared to some people's expectations, we have used about 18 players in 4 different formations. Our season starts against Wigan. If we are as unbalanced then as we are now I might join in the bed wetting.3 -
I wasnt talking about him as a striker per se......just that there are big players on big salaries that teams in this League have signed BEFORE the wage cap.Elthamaddick said:
Danny Graham managed to hit the North Upper from inside the Covered End 6 yard box Saturday - thanks but no thanksgolfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
Jeez this is hard. I'm going to take a step back as its doing my head in.7 -
Thought you said don't read into the salary jump?mendonca said:I wouldn't read into the salary jump line. They probably don't even know of the cap!
This shows the real world impacts of Covid. Moving country with the family in current times versus a pay rise and the security of a 3 year deal.0 -
Nobody was saying that when he was scoring for usDessieValley said:I think the experience with Taylor shows us if a player wants out, you are better cashing in whilst you have a chance. Bonne admitted to having his head turned, his performances seemed to suggest that in my eyes. No point having a squad and salary place taken up by someone who's got one eye on the exit door.
It's not as if Taylor downed tools after the January window either, in February he scored 4 crucial goals as we picked up 3 wins, 2 of which were against relegation rivals Barnsley and Luton.0 -
If you cash out every time a Cafc players gets his head turned by an offer from a team in a higher division or League then we have no chance of getting out League 1 and the premier league is just a pipe dream.
It so obvious that you have to bring in better players than you sell or who walk away at the end of their contracts to move up a division.
With the salary cap that is near on impossible to do.
Hungry young players from lower Leagues and good hardened pros (Gunter fits the template) will be a start with the best of the academy.
Goal scorers should always be paid the most.
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Fair point on same number of points. We then went unbeaten in 6. If we do that from Wigan onwards, I will clean the sheets and make a fresh bed!!Cafc43v3r said:
We have the same number of points from 4 games as we did when we got promoted. So what you actually mean is this is exactly the same as 50% of Bowyer's previous starts to the season?BalladMan said:
Because they have been 'shit' so far this season. I hope it comes good, but the performances have not been acceptable since the new seasons started. It might be a hangover from relegation. It might be the teams are bonding, but Bowyer teams usually start the season pretty strong after a tough, physical pre-season. Its not happened this time and we are on the backfoot. Fingers crossed it improves.Cafc43v3r said:
Some clubs have players on more money than others shocker.golfaddick said:
You seem to forget that all other teams in the league put their squads together BEFORE the wage cap came in. Look at Sunderland. They signed Danny Graham. Do you think he is on £3k pw ??Dazzler21 said:If other teams in this league can do it on this budget so can we. Stop being so bloody negative.
It's CONSTANT.
Still just under 2 weeks left of the window FFS.
I know I am seen by many on here as pessimistic or (as Boris would say) a doomster & gloomster.......but some of you need to wake up to reality. We are not even playing on a level playing field.
I think Lee Cattermole was on about half as much as our whole starting 11 at Wembley. That's before they bought on Grigg and McGeady.
Sunderland aren't the only other team in league 1. I bet some clubs can only dream of paying what we are to some of our players. Most clubs in this divison would bite your hand off for some of the "dross" we have.
I have never seen a group of players, who all have pedigree far higher than league 1, written off as being "shit" after 4 league games. Its, well, unique.
We have been shit, compared to some people's expectations, we have used about 18 players in 4 different formations. Our season starts against Wigan. If we are as unbalanced then as we are now I might join in the bed wetting.3
