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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    Is this the new takeover thread?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Uboat said:
    sunbury-addick said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    If bowyer doesn't get us top six this season I reckon we should get somebody who can. We are not there yet, but we shouldn't be making excuses for him before the season has got going. I'm sure he didn't have to sell a £2m player. It is down to him to replace and not moan about it.

    Please read carefully, I am not saying sack him. But I am saying don't give him a free pass to fail.
    Who would you suggest as that new manager ?

    Sorry, that's not the official Charlton Life Appleton photo, he looks too human in that one  ;)


  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    My statement is not saying to sack him now. I have said I don't want Bowyer sacked and have said I expect him to get the signings right. I have merely pointed out some things I think he has got wrong recently and potentially has got wrong now. And I am saying that he shouldn't have a free pass. I am expecting him to step up, but am not so far up his backside that I can't see the possibility of him not doing so and indeed don't think he should have a free pass to fail.

    I was pretty amazed when he started Vennings on Saturday. Morgan was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch against Brighton. Why play Vennings above him? Could he have not got another ten or twenty minutes more out of Aneke who I was shouting at the screen for? Who are we lining up to replace Bonne? He is a Championship standard striker. It feels to me Bowyer has it in him, but like Soapbox, it is feeling like all the turmoil may have made him lose his mojo. he needs to get it back if that is the case.
    To answer a tiny part of that.

    “Young Albie was just shattered, it is probably the most he has ever run. So when that affects you two days later, you’re in trouble.

    “Vennings was the one who recovered the quickest."

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    What about Jack Clarke, Spurs winger/forward who they signed from Leeds. Only played 6 games at QPR so I'm not sure a load of Champ clubs will be interested and move to League 1 might do him good. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    masicat said:
    Not a Bonne fan. However , selling him when we did was a ridiculous thing to do. He should have been told he is here for the season, end of. 
    He's a jobbing player, not a schoolboy.


  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,259
    Leeds_Addick said:
    This time last week everyone was saying we should sell Bonne for less money than we eventually did.

    Bizarre to start turning on Bowyer.
    No everyone wasn't saying it, he started the season with a cracking goal at Swindon & because everyone expects him to score in every game some people started criticizing. Selling him is fine, selling him without having replacements signed up knowing that the embargo & wage cap has given other clubs an advantage over us & leaving us with one striker who isn't exactly a goal machine is fucking madness.
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    sillav nitram said:
    Is this the new takeover thread?
    No it's the new managerial sacking thread
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,259
    ValleyGary said:
    “The second I heard there was interest, my head was turned,” he said. “I’ll easily say that – my head was turned straight away.”

    Fuck Bonne #TeamBowyer  
    Yes the thought of going to play for a manager who actually wanted him, how bizarre is that ?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Covered End said:
    Who of our current midfield is of Championship quality and capable of playing all/most the games in the Championship? Apparently our midfield is full of them.

    How come we haven't had any bids from the Championship clubs for all these quality players?

    How many of our midfield full of Championship quality do we expect to follow Bonne to the Championship?

    I can only think of Doughty, Watson (and Maddison although no Championship clubs wanted Maddison).
    Was going to post similar. Surprised no one else has picked up on it to be honest. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    We're. In. League. Bloody. One.
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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    golfaddick said:
    Valley11 said:
    200 new posts of hot air

    Any transfer rumours?
    Yeah, the rumour is that Chris Gunter was going to sign but he took the only pen with him & so they have to wait for him to return from international duty before we can sign anyone else.
    Gunter takes pens?  Handy for a shoot out in the Playoff semi at the end of the season.


  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I wouldn't be surprised to see another Man Utd player too. I was reading the other day about Nicky Butt wanting a few to go out to experience mens football. We know he talks to Bowyer so could be a handy link. Di'Shon Bernard might be worth a look, heard he's quite highly thought of and originally from South London. 
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2020
    I trust Bowyer’s judgement on Bonne. He sees him every day in training. He has years of experience in professional football. He will have been aware of Bonne’s physical and mental state. Two million was a no brainer in my book. Of course he has to get replacements and I’m sure there are a number on his radar but it may not happen in two or three days like we would all want.
    The added issues the salary cap places on us has to be negotiated and I think in Gallen we have the right man to do so. It may not be exactly what we want it to be but I’m pretty sure it will be the best we could have done both short and long term.
    Let’s  wait and see and also understand that transfers are not as straightforward as fans want them to be. 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,259
    SamE7 said:
    THERE ARE 10.5 DAYS LEFT UNTIL THE DOMESTIC WINDOW SHUTS (if anyone wasn't aware). How do some of you get through your day to day lives?!
    I think you'll find only 9 days 23 hours & 58 minutes from the time of your posting until the window shuts.
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    bowyer has done am exceptional job and I am fully confident he will get us promoted. it will be tough this season as he has been hugely disrupted.. next season though I am very confident about. 

    yes he has his views on players and I would have started Morgan saturday and maybe not had him play the whole game Wednesday. but all managers have their specific ideas

    be patient and it will come 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    seth plum said:
    Personally I don't buy the notion we still have two weeks.
    Yes technically we have, but I would prefer to have the players already here, and two weeks to fashion a credible team with an effective style.
    The problem will be the fecking about by agents right up to the wire. Yesterday with the on off Schwartz thing it is a good example of the agents blackmail approach.
    Right now we don't resemble much of a coherent team, but for example Lincoln and Doncaster seemed much more at ease with themselves.
    Don’t worry, we’ll sign five players next Friday afternoon who won’t be eligible for the Saturday game and people will say don’t worry that game can be another free hit and there will still be another 41 games left it’ll be ok. I’m with you. I’d like to see them in now so they have ten days to integrate into things.
  • Themightyath2
    Themightyath2 Posts: 930
    This is a rumours thread, but the last few pages hasn’t included a single rumour! 

    PLEASE save the bed-wetting, over analysing and berating of LB, SG and salary cap until the 17th. 

    At that time we can debate if the squad is good enough for a promotion push.

    Rumours anyone? 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    edited October 2020
    ButtleJR said:
    Southbank said:
    Unfortunately, the one player we need more than any other, somebody who can score 20+ goals in League One, is very unlikely to be currently unemployed.
    We will have to buy somebody, presumably by offering over the odds to another League One club who need the money. Anybody know who fits that bill?
    Mo Eisa?
    Scored in the EFL Trophy tonight.

    Fook the EFL Trophy Mo, come and play for us in the league.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Macronate said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Southbank said:
    Unfortunately, the one player we need more than any other, somebody who can score 20+ goals in League One, is very unlikely to be currently unemployed.
    We will have to buy somebody, presumably by offering over the odds to another League One club who need the money. Anybody know who fits that bill?
    Mo Eisa?
    Scored in the EFL Trophy tonight.

    Fook that Mo, come and play for us in the league.
    Can’t see Peterborough selling to us. 

    They wouldn't want us strengthened. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    seth plum said:
    Personally I don't buy the notion we still have two weeks.
    Yes technically we have, but I would prefer to have the players already here, and two weeks to fashion a credible team with an effective style.

    The problem will be the fecking about by agents right up to the wire. Yesterday with the on off Schwartz thing it is a good example of the agents blackmail approach.

    Right now we don't resemble much of a coherent team, but for example Lincoln and Doncaster seemed much more at ease with themselves.
    Lee Bowyer might well have said that himself.



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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    cafcfan1990 said:
    What about Jack Clarke, Spurs winger/forward who they signed from Leeds. Only played 6 games at QPR so I'm not sure a load of Champ clubs will be interested and move to League 1 might do him good. 
    Agree with this, he needs a move to a League One club to reignite his career a little bit.

    Leeds got the deal of the century selling him for £9mil with a sell on. He went back on loan at Leeds and didn’t play, went to QPR and didn’t get a look in. He only got the move as he burst onto the scene and done well. Someone like Bow is probably exactly what he needs.

    He would have to play out wide though, by no means is he a forward.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    If we are going to start talking about getting rid of a young, up and coming, attack minded, football on the ground, sought after manager who has previously worked wonders.

    Can I be the first to suggest we replace him with a young, up and coming, attack minded, football on the ground, sought after manager who has previously worked wonders?

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Have Leeds got anyone worth us looking at ? Bowyers stock at Leeds is still very high.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    He has time to sort it out. He has just sold a Championship quality striker, and has a midfield full of Championship quality. He has enough time to sort it out and if I was a betting man, I will bet he will.

    But if he doesn't I would look at the negative tactics after winning our first two post lockdown games and the tepid way he has set up so far this season. I appreciate there are circumstances to factor in. He needs to sort this out and like I said, I don't want to hear him moaning why we couldn't replace Bonne. 

    We all want to see some positive business in this window and whilst it won't be easy, we don't want a manager who can do it when it was easy. It wasn't easy when he first got the job, but I suspect the minute he started to care if he had the job or not, we saw negative traits. I want to see the front foot manager will balls that set out to win games that Bowyer was when he first got his opportunity.

    We all want to see positive signings and front foot football, but we have no idea what might happen this season, Doughty could break both his legs during the international break. 

    Why make stupid statements about sacking Bowyer if we don’t make top six during a season of transition? Bowyer could win the league the season after? 

    Let’s not forget all the other clubs haven’t had the wage cap and have been building promotion winning squads over the course of 3-4 seasons. We’ve lost the majority of the squad and need to replace with this stupid cap.

    I ask again, who do you think would do a better job? 
    Who has been building promotion winning squads for 3 or 4 seasons?  
    Pretty much anyone who you expect to be in and around the top 6. 

    Peterborough, Sunderland, Doncaster, Fleetwood, Blackpool, Portsmouth etc. They’ve all added to their squads and strengthened in the areas needed. 

    That’s not including Ipswich, Hull, us, and anyone else who may have a good season. It’s why it’s so stupid to say we should sack Bowyer if he doesn’t get top 6 this season. 
    Have you seen Sunderland's transfers this summer?  Their squad is unrecognisable from 4 months ago, let alone 4 years ago.

    The churn of players at this level, every year, is unbelievable.

    Edit: Of course it would be bloody stupid to sack Bowyer any time in the next 18 months.  What ever happens. 
    Okay, take Sunderland out of it - although they’re undoubtedly building a Parkinson style squad despite player retention. That’s just arguing semantics. 

    A blind man could see the other teams have been slowly building up their squads before the cap. Particularly Peterborough and Blackpool. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Have Leeds got anyone worth us looking at ? Bowyers stock at Leeds is still very high.
    Robbie Gotts.

    Central midfielder who can also play right-back. Bielsa said he is very sorry for not playing him because he is a really good player. Been on the bench loads for Leeds. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited October 2020
    LargeAddick said:
    Covered End said:
    Who of our current midfield is of Championship quality and capable of playing all/most the games in the Championship? Apparently our midfield is full of them.

    How come we haven't had any bids from the Championship clubs for all these quality players?

    How many of our midfield full of Championship quality do we expect to follow Bonne to the Championship?

    I can only think of Doughty, Watson (and Maddison although no Championship clubs wanted Maddison).
    Was going to post similar. Surprised no one else has picked up on it to be honest. 
    But people are happy to wank themselves silly because of Marcus Maddison's league 1 stats, but are happy to shit all over players that have hardly played in league 1 (because they have been playing at a higher level) in their lives, because they have played in a disjointed and un balanced team for 4 games.

    Beyond parody. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    My statement is not saying to sack him now. I have said I don't want Bowyer sacked and have said I expect him to get the signings right. I have merely pointed out some things I think he has got wrong recently and potentially has got wrong now. And I am saying that he shouldn't have a free pass. I am expecting him to step up, but am not so far up his backside that I can't see the possibility of him not doing so and indeed don't think he should have a free pass to fail.

    I was pretty amazed when he started Vennings on Saturday. Morgan was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch against Brighton. Why play Vennings above him? Could he have not got another ten or twenty minutes more out of Aneke who I was shouting at the screen for? Who are we lining up to replace Bonne? He is a Championship standard striker. It feels to me Bowyer has it in him, but like Soapbox, it is feeling like all the turmoil may have made him lose his mojo. he needs to get it back if that is the case.
    We know you’re not saying sack him now - but just to get this straight, if Bowyer finishes 7th this season, he’s failed and he should be sacked? I hope not because that’s a very silly view. 

    Bowyer has already said in public Vennings started because he stood out in training and Morgan was shattered from Brighton - apparently that’s the most he’s ran in a single match. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    He has time to sort it out. He has just sold a Championship quality striker, and has a midfield full of Championship quality. He has enough time to sort it out and if I was a betting man, I will bet he will.

    But if he doesn't I would look at the negative tactics after winning our first two post lockdown games and the tepid way he has set up so far this season. I appreciate there are circumstances to factor in. He needs to sort this out and like I said, I don't want to hear him moaning why we couldn't replace Bonne. 

    We all want to see some positive business in this window and whilst it won't be easy, we don't want a manager who can do it when it was easy. It wasn't easy when he first got the job, but I suspect the minute he started to care if he had the job or not, we saw negative traits. I want to see the front foot manager will balls that set out to win games that Bowyer was when he first got his opportunity.

    We all want to see positive signings and front foot football, but we have no idea what might happen this season, Doughty could break both his legs during the international break. 

    Why make stupid statements about sacking Bowyer if we don’t make top six during a season of transition? Bowyer could win the league the season after? 

    Let’s not forget all the other clubs haven’t had the wage cap and have been building promotion winning squads over the course of 3-4 seasons. We’ve lost the majority of the squad and need to replace with this stupid cap.

    I ask again, who do you think would do a better job? 
    Who has been building promotion winning squads for 3 or 4 seasons?  
    Pretty much anyone who you expect to be in and around the top 6. 

    Peterborough, Sunderland, Doncaster, Fleetwood, Blackpool, Portsmouth etc. They’ve all added to their squads and strengthened in the areas needed. 

    That’s not including Ipswich, Hull, us, and anyone else who may have a good season. It’s why it’s so stupid to say we should sack Bowyer if he doesn’t get top 6 this season. 
    Have you seen Sunderland's transfers this summer?  Their squad is unrecognisable from 4 months ago, let alone 4 years ago.

    The churn of players at this level, every year, is unbelievable.

    Edit: Of course it would be bloody stupid to sack Bowyer any time in the next 18 months.  What ever happens. 
    Okay, take Sunderland out of it - although they’re undoubtedly building a Parkinson style squad despite player retention. That’s just arguing semantics. 

    A blind man could see the other teams have been slowly building up their squads before the cap. Particularly Peterborough and Blackpool. 
    Before the cap, isn't 4 years is it?  Which is what I took issue with.  Sunderland were in the premier league 4 years ago😜
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    cafcfan1990 said:
    What about Jack Clarke, Spurs winger/forward who they signed from Leeds. Only played 6 games at QPR so I'm not sure a load of Champ clubs will be interested and move to League 1 might do him good. 
    I like him but I think someone like Wycombe or Coventry will take a punt on him before we get a look in. 

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