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England Squad (v Republic of Ireland/Belgium/Iceland from p29)
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I think a message has to be sent in relation to Foden and Greenwood. They will get their chance again.1
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Midfield ain’t great but apart from that it’s decentCovered_End_Lad said:There is some absolute shite in that squad1 -
They’ll be available for the November squad. I think it’s right to keep them out of squad this time around.Chris_from_Sidcup said:No Foden and Greenwood then.
Surely sending them home before the last game was punishment enough? They're only kids, just move on. We should be wanting to win games with our strongest available team/squad, not trying to prove a point to a couple of kids.
Greenwood i get should probably move back to the U21s anyway, but Foden should be in the team or at least on the bench.Foden is 20, that’s old enough to not do what he did. We’ve seen in the last week or so how serious clubs are taking this when players or staff are proving positive. I don’t believe missing the Denmark game was punishment enough for the two players, I’m all for Southgate keeping them out for the follow up squad. It’s not permanent and as mentioned, they’ll be back in the November squad.5 -
I agree with most, not sure who I'd replace the ❓ players with though...
Goalkeepers:
Jordan Pickford (Everton), ✔️
Nick Pope (Burnley), ✔️
Dean Henderson (Manchester United) ❓
Defenders:
Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), ✔️
Ben Chilwell (Chelsea), ❓
Conor Coady (Wolves), ❓
Eric Dier (Tottenham), ✔️
Joe Gomez (Liverpool), ✔️
Michael Keane (Everton), ✔️
Harry Maguire (Manchester United), ❓
Ainsley Maitland-Niles (Arsenal), ❓
Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa), ❓
Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), ✔️
Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid), ✔️
Kyle Walker (Manchester City) ✔️
Midfielders:
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), ✔️
Mason Mount (Chelsea), ✔️
Kalvin Phillips (Leeds), ❓
Declan Rice (West Ham), ❓ /✔️
James Ward-Prowse (Southampton), ❓
Harry Winks (Tottenham) ❓
Jack Greilish (Aston Villa), ✔️
Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund), ✔️
Raheem Sterling (Manchester City) ✔️
Harvey Barnes (Leicester), ❓
Forwards:
Tammy Abraham (Chelsea), ✔️
Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton), ✔️
Danny Ings (Southampton), ❓
Harry Kane (Tottenham), ✔️
Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), ✔️
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You'd have Walker but not Chilwell? Best LB we've got. We're not overloaded with CB's, have to have Maguire in there.1
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Would swap Tammy Abraham for Mason Greenwood on a good day
Harvey Barnes I'd exchange for Phil Foden0 -
Sterling ruled out injured
Abraham
Sancho
Chilwell
Told not to turn up until an investigation has been done
Reece James has been called up0 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54211943
Something I hadn't realised is that the rules have changed so that players can now switch national teams if they have played no more than three competitive matches at senior level prior to them turning 21.
Previously if you had one 5 minute subs appearance, you couldn't change0 -
paulie8290 said:Sterling ruled out injured
Abraham
Sancho
Chilwell
Told not to turn up until an investigation has been done
Reece James has been called up
I suppose its a bit tricky when you get an invite to a "small gathering" and you don't know how many will be there and whether you are breaking the rules until you get there. Its just these are people who are on a lot of money, with plentiful advice available, who have been selected to represent their country at the highest level. I just naively expect them to be a little more aware of what is at stake and thus be a little bit more prepared. still if they don't like the rules they can easily switch to another country and play for them.2 - Sponsored links:
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Abraham I get as it was a surprise party.PemburyAddick said:paulie8290 said:Sterling ruled out injured
Abraham
Sancho
Chilwell
Told not to turn up until an investigation has been done
Reece James has been called up
I suppose its a bit tricky when you get an invite to a "small gathering" and you don't know how many will be there and whether you are breaking the rules until you get there. Its just these are people who are on a lot of money, with plentiful advice available, who have been selected to represent their country at the highest level. I just naively expect them to be a little more aware of what is at stake and thus be a little bit more prepared. still if they don't like the rules they can easily switch to another country and play for them.
But no excuse for the other 2 or his family for inviting so many5 -
I'm nor sure why the headline are all about Abraham, when Chilwell and Sancho are (if Abraham's story is true) more guiltypaulie8290 said:
Abraham I get as it was a surprise party.PemburyAddick said:paulie8290 said:Sterling ruled out injured
Abraham
Sancho
Chilwell
Told not to turn up until an investigation has been done
Reece James has been called up
I suppose its a bit tricky when you get an invite to a "small gathering" and you don't know how many will be there and whether you are breaking the rules until you get there. Its just these are people who are on a lot of money, with plentiful advice available, who have been selected to represent their country at the highest level. I just naively expect them to be a little more aware of what is at stake and thus be a little bit more prepared. still if they don't like the rules they can easily switch to another country and play for them.
But no excuse for the other 2 or his family for inviting so many0 -
Aren't the FA too quick to punish these England players? They might have just been testing their eyesight5
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Abraham
Chilwell
Sancho
All will miss the friendly against Wales
Unsurprising really, have them miss the friendly so they are punished but make sure they are back for the key game against Belgium, we have already lost Sterling and don't want to lose Sancho for that as well2 -
Not to mention Foden and Greenwood who are also being punished for this too.paulie8290 said:Abraham
Chilwell
Sancho
All will miss the friendly against Wales
Unsurprising really, have them miss the friendly so they are punished but make sure they are back for the key game against Belgium, we have already lost Sterling and don't want to lose Sancho for that as well
As long as they are all back for the big game0 -
Grealish has to start.1
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I didn't even realise we had a friendly match too. Seems pretty ridiculous that after a hectic start to the season (especially for Spurs) that we now have 3 internationals Thursday-Sunday-Wednesday.
What's the point of FIFA/UEFA arranging a round of friendly matches before these two nations league games? Wasn't the whole point of the Nations league to avoid pointless friendlies?3 -
Its so everyone plays three games... this International Window you've gotChris_from_Sidcup said:I didn't even realise we had a friendly match too. Seems pretty ridiculous that after a hectic start to the season (especially for Spurs) that we now have 3 internationals Thursday-Sunday-Wednesday.
What's the point of FIFA/UEFA arranging a round of friendly matches before these two nations league games? Wasn't the whole point of the Nations league to avoid pointless friendlies?
Euro 2020 Play-Off Semi-Finals then the Nations League games - It'll be the same in November when you'll have the Play-Off Finals and two more Nations League games
Unless there is no International Window planned for next March I dont know why they've not had the Euro 2020 Play-Offs simply a year later as doesnt make much difference1 -
Nope there will also be friendlies next March too!! - Where is that facepalm gif!!
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/Seas2020-30/2020-21/Fixtures2020-21.html
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It's still ridiculous. If Kane plays in all 3 games for England over the next week, he'll have played 11 games already this season and we'll only be 1 month in. I hope Southgate rests him v Wales.ForeverAddickted said:
Its so everyone plays three games... this International Window you've gotChris_from_Sidcup said:I didn't even realise we had a friendly match too. Seems pretty ridiculous that after a hectic start to the season (especially for Spurs) that we now have 3 internationals Thursday-Sunday-Wednesday.
What's the point of FIFA/UEFA arranging a round of friendly matches before these two nations league games? Wasn't the whole point of the Nations league to avoid pointless friendlies?
Euro 2020 Play-Off Semi-Finals then the Nations League games - It'll be the same in November when you'll have the Play-Off Finals and two more Nations League games
Unless there is no International Window planned for next March I dont know why they've not had the Euro 2020 Play-Offs simply a year later as doesnt make much difference
Most players (not just England's) will be fucking exhausted by the time the Euro's start next summer.2 - Sponsored links:
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Thats like saying a Marathon runner should be able to run a race of that distance every weekaddick1956 said:
Why...they are fit athletes...they party all night when it suits them but can't be asked two play twice week !Chris_from_Sidcup said:
It's still ridiculous. If Kane plays in all 3 games for England over the next week, he'll have played 11 games already this season and we'll only be 1 month in. I hope Southgate rests him v Wales.ForeverAddickted said:
Its so everyone plays three games... this International Window you've gotChris_from_Sidcup said:I didn't even realise we had a friendly match too. Seems pretty ridiculous that after a hectic start to the season (especially for Spurs) that we now have 3 internationals Thursday-Sunday-Wednesday.
What's the point of FIFA/UEFA arranging a round of friendly matches before these two nations league games? Wasn't the whole point of the Nations league to avoid pointless friendlies?
Euro 2020 Play-Off Semi-Finals then the Nations League games - It'll be the same in November when you'll have the Play-Off Finals and two more Nations League games
Unless there is no International Window planned for next March I dont know why they've not had the Euro 2020 Play-Offs simply a year later as doesnt make much difference
Most players (not just England's) will be fucking exhausted by the time the Euro's start next summer.1 -
My god you chat shit.addick1956 said:
Why...they are fit athletes...they party all night when it suits them but can't be asked two play twice week !Chris_from_Sidcup said:
It's still ridiculous. If Kane plays in all 3 games for England over the next week, he'll have played 11 games already this season and we'll only be 1 month in. I hope Southgate rests him v Wales.ForeverAddickted said:
Its so everyone plays three games... this International Window you've gotChris_from_Sidcup said:I didn't even realise we had a friendly match too. Seems pretty ridiculous that after a hectic start to the season (especially for Spurs) that we now have 3 internationals Thursday-Sunday-Wednesday.
What's the point of FIFA/UEFA arranging a round of friendly matches before these two nations league games? Wasn't the whole point of the Nations league to avoid pointless friendlies?
Euro 2020 Play-Off Semi-Finals then the Nations League games - It'll be the same in November when you'll have the Play-Off Finals and two more Nations League games
Unless there is no International Window planned for next March I dont know why they've not had the Euro 2020 Play-Offs simply a year later as doesnt make much difference
Most players (not just England's) will be fucking exhausted by the time the Euro's start next summer.
Kane has a wife and 3 kids. The only thing he probably does in the night is get up and feed the baby.5 -
So our one and only recognised left back (who has only just come back from injury), Chillwell, can't join the England squad because of his own stupidity. The England players were all told in no uncertain terms what the guidelines are and what is expected and he goes and does this. I would question whether he really cares enough.3
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11 games in a month (plus training) is a ridiculous amount it doesn't matter how fit you are, that will catch up with you and hit you hard.addick1956 said:
Why...they are fit athletes...they party all night when it suits them but can't be asked two play twice week !Chris_from_Sidcup said:
It's still ridiculous. If Kane plays in all 3 games for England over the next week, he'll have played 11 games already this season and we'll only be 1 month in. I hope Southgate rests him v Wales.ForeverAddickted said:
Its so everyone plays three games... this International Window you've gotChris_from_Sidcup said:I didn't even realise we had a friendly match too. Seems pretty ridiculous that after a hectic start to the season (especially for Spurs) that we now have 3 internationals Thursday-Sunday-Wednesday.
What's the point of FIFA/UEFA arranging a round of friendly matches before these two nations league games? Wasn't the whole point of the Nations league to avoid pointless friendlies?
Euro 2020 Play-Off Semi-Finals then the Nations League games - It'll be the same in November when you'll have the Play-Off Finals and two more Nations League games
Unless there is no International Window planned for next March I dont know why they've not had the Euro 2020 Play-Offs simply a year later as doesnt make much difference
Most players (not just England's) will be fucking exhausted by the time the Euro's start next summer.4 -
Chilwell you idiot! As AA says our one proper left back with quality so now we are going to resort to Trippier out of position, which in recent games has not impressed (My thoughts)
Losing Sancho is a big loss, but hopefully only for the friendly too, it is stupid though. How hard is it to stick to the bloody rules, every average joe is.. or maybe they can get away with it better but set an example!
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36 minutes gone and England U21s are losing 1-0 to Andorra!0
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Bothroyd is awful. Pointless having all these fantastic young players coming through when we aren’t producing enough good young coaches or managers.1
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1-1 at HT, Davies equalised. Agree on Boothroyd that he's not exactly a manager known for his attractive progressive football.ValleyGary said:Bothroyd is awful. Pointless having all these fantastic young players coming through when we aren’t producing enough good young coaches or managers.
Not that it's really any excuse though but i think our subs bench for this is better than the team. He's clearly resting players for the next game.2 -
Yeah I think if we win this we only need a point dont we?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
1-1 at HT, Davies equalised. Agree on Boothroyd that he's not exactly a manager known for his attractive progressive football.ValleyGary said:Bothroyd is awful. Pointless having all these fantastic young players coming through when we aren’t producing enough good young coaches or managers.
Not that it's really any excuse though but i think our subs bench for this is better than the team. He's clearly resting players for the next game.0 -
Nketiah moves level with Shearer and Jeffers on 13 as the joint record U21 scorer.0
