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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
    edited October 2020
    I won’t believe Doughty’s leaving until it’s “confirmed” by Rich Cawley and/or Pete O’Rourke. Unfortunately RH’s recent track record isn’t as stellar as it once was so I’m a little less inclined to believe it.

    There’s about five pages of people calling him greedy etc over one whisper that was posted up here earlier today. Imagine if nothing’s happened and he’s reading those posts LOL.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,629
    I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
    Kante’s available.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited October 2020
    lancashire lad said:
    I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
    Let's say he's on his apprenticeship. 

    Company A has paid for his development and training and he hasn't finished said apprenticeship. 

    If he goes to Company B it is wholly disrespectful to Company A and a complete waste of their time and money. 

    Won't judge til it is confirmed and we learn how it affects us. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    Scoham said:
    RedRobin said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doughty off though
    I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
    I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
    As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need. 
    How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs? 
    None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.

    Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
    He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.

    LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.

    Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery.  Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Callumcafc said:
    Kante’s available.
    Player exchange with Doughty, so I heard.

    PS: I'm ITK  :wink:



  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    Scoham said:
    RedRobin said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doughty off though
    I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
    I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
    As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need. 
    How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs? 
    None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.

    Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
    He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.

    LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.

    Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery.  Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
    On the bench ;)
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    cafc_harry said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    cafc_harry said:
    Who’s replacing our main direct attacking threat then? Doubt we’ll get anyone else in not counting towards the cap at this stage. Can’t say I get this one. 
    Maddison?
    Has a great delivery don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he’s the type to run up and down the pitch, at defenders etc. Doughty’s pace is absolutely lethal at this level, very hard if not impossible to replace. 
    You don't need to run if you can pick a killer pass from 50 yards
    Pace is nothing without control/end product...#runforrestrun
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Redhenry said:
    Laddick01 said:
    @Redhenry what’s going on with this backtracking.

    It’s like watching your favourite footballer fall from grace. I can’t believe it.
    Just making sure i put exactly what i'm told. Before all of the old tarts on here start wingeing
    Good luck with that ;-)
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Dazzler21 said:
    lancashire lad said:
    I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
    Let's say he's on his apprenticeship. 

    Company A has paid for his development and training and he hasn't finished said apprenticeship. 

    If he goes to Company B it is wholly disrespectful to Company A and a complete waste of their time and money. 

    Won't judge til it is confirmed and we learn how it affects us. 
    I’m not sure that analogy works - he can only leave us if we agree to sell him or his contract expires without agreeing a new deal. He can’t just walk out now and join a new “company”.
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    Callumcafc said:
    Kante’s available.
    That was nice of Lampard. Kante who is probably one of the least troublesome players out there, refused some time off to attend a wedding.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    @Cafc43v3r
    Rather uninspiring options, but options: 

    GK
    Amos
    Maynard Brewer

    Defence
    Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
    Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington

    Midfield
    Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
    Morgan | Pratley | Vennings

    Attack
    Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
    Washington | Bogle | Maddison

  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    lancashire lad said:
    I'm sure that most of us if offered a new job with a "better" company and lots more money we would go and would not be considered greedy, why should it be different for a footballer?
    I can't speak for everyone who has commented but I'd certainly wish him well and follow his career with interest. 

    The problem I have with it is that he's (potentially) being silly. He's making life harder for the club that gave him a chance for a quick, short-term win. If he's as good as he thinks he is, he could sign a contract, smash League One and go in the summer - that will give him more money, status and secure the club financially. We'd all wish each other well and dance off into the moonlight. 

    Unfortunately, agents exist. They'll be in his ear as much as possible trying to get him to jump ship at the first opportunity.  

    As for the comparison with normal jobs, it doesn't correlate. While I understand your point, the caveat is that normal jobs don't invest in you since the age of 10 and give you every opportunity to flourish - just for you to run your contract down after 15 odd decent performances. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Callumcafc said:
    Kante’s available.
    He wanted a big "do" with hundreds of guests and a marquee, but Lamps wanted something quiet at the registry office?
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,263
    limeygent said:
    I see a lot of 0-0 draws coming.
    Thinking the same, decent MF, defence taking shape but no-one to score & I would be surprised there's any decent strikers hanging around that we could afford under the cap. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    @Cafc43v3r
    Rather uninspiring options, but options: 

    GK
    Amos
    Maynard Brewer

    Defence
    Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
    Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington

    Midfield
    Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
    Morgan | Pratley | Vennings

    Attack
    Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
    Washington | Bogle | Maddison

    I think if you shuffle it to 352 and 442 (diamond) it looks more offensive and more inspirational.

    We will see. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,228
    charltonbob said:
    limeygent said:
    I see a lot of 0-0 draws coming.
    Thinking the same, decent MF, defence taking shape but no-one to score & I would be surprised there's any decent strikers hanging around that we could afford under the cap. 
    I reckon bogle could score shit loads off of Maddison crosses
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    Scoham said:
    RedRobin said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doughty off though
    I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
    I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
    As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need. 
    How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs? 
    None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.

    Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
    He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.

    LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.

    Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery.  Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
    On the bench ;)  for the vets team

  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    Alfie has gone from being considered a conference player on loan, to Championship and Celtic quality within a year. If it can go that way that quickly, it can go the other way just as quick. Would be mental to not consider a better move presuming he's not on a good contract at the moment.

    What is the bigger issue is that we always seem to have a promising youngster break through whilst they are on a one year deal where this scenario keeps happening that we basically have to give in and sell them...
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    Scoham said:
    RedRobin said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doughty off though
    I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
    I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
    As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need. 
    How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs? 
    None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.

    Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
    He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.

    LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.

    Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery.  Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
    Yeah he has talked about different systems, but he’s likely to have one as his main system. I wouldn’t assume he’s set on that being a diamond, that worked well when we had the right strikers for it. At the moment we probably don’t have that.

    Williams and Oztumer can’t stay in the team, while Aneke can’t stay fit. We won’t be building a system around any of them.

    When they do play it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams our wide or in the midfield 3, Oztumer on the right of the front 3 or Aneke as the central striker. They’ve all played in positions other than a “number 10” during their careers.
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The purpose of the signings is to get points on the table.
    If that happens all is good.
    I hope Inniss can avoid trading on the troubled past angle even though true, because sadly he may have caused there to be victims along the way.
    Perhaps reparations might be in order.
    Either way my attitude overall is good luck to the fella.
    Get us points.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited October 2020
    Desperately need CBs, and if one of them is Inniss, then great. We need a brickhouse, and you’d assume Gallen and Bowyer wouldn’t sign a donkey. So he’s had problems from a tough childhood, but maybe charlton will help him with those issues? Maarten looks like a slightly taller Dasilva, and could be a great loan. If they’re both confirmed then we’ll have had a decent day under difficult circumstances IMHO. 
    Smyth would potentially be ok as well, who knows. 
    Bogle, Aneke, Smyth & Washington should  give us plenty of options up front, and with Madison (and potentially Levitt) opening up defences I think we might do ok, although I’d prefer us to have a proven goalscorer in the ranks. 
    But even so, I’m ever the optimist.   
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    Scoham said:
    RedRobin said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doughty off though
    I’m not overly fussed if I’m honest, I’d prefer to keep him though but if he’s refusing to sign a new deal then so be it....
    I am, we’d need to replace him with a winger with the potential to score 10+ this season, which Doughty has.
    As I said I’d prefer to keep him but if we’re being offered decent money then take it if he won’t sign a new deal. Agreed, we’d need to sign another winger on top of the winger we already need. 
    How many wingers did we use when we won the play offs? 
    None because we had mobile strikers who could drift wide and cause full backs problems, so a different formation suited us.

    Bowyer’s moved to a 4-3-3 formation and building the squad with that in mind. You’d think he wouldn’t have to completely change his plans just by one player leaving.
    He changed to 433 because he had Doughty, people put that and the signing of Maddison together and came up with 433 as the preferred formation.

    LB has talked about "different systems" back normally about 3 or 4 at the back.

    Changing to 433, as the default, would have needed major surgery.  Where would you put Williams, Oztumer, Aneke etc in a 433?
    Yeah he has talked about different systems, but he’s likely to have one as his main system. I wouldn’t assume he’s set on that being a diamond, that worked well when we had the right strikers for it. At the moment we probably don’t have that.

    Williams and Oztumer can’t stay in the team, while Aneke can’t stay fit. We won’t be building a system around any of them.

    When they do play it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams our wide or in the midfield 3, Oztumer on the right of the front 3 or Aneke as the central striker. They’ve all played in positions other than a “number 10” during their careers.
    They have also all been pretty poor to average as anything else other than a "number 10".  Bowyer has said before that Aneke isn't a 9.

    Like I said we will see. 
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Can’t deny Bonne and Doughty their moves given their fantastic performances at the end of last season trying to keep us up.
    Dear oh dear.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,586
    masicat said:
    Can’t deny Bonne and Doughty their moves given their fantastic performances at the end of last season trying to keep us up.
    Dear oh dear.
    Thing is they are both now seen as world beaters after one
    season where they were both lets face it, average.
    Agree Bonne was a bit of a better player for us, with a few
    goals and assists, but what has Alfie really done in the last
    12 months to feel he is championship quality.
    That said, i don't want him to go,and feel he would benefit
    in another year or two, if talent shines through, with a real
    life changing move.
    Listen to Bowyer, not your agent mate.

  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    If he wants out, fuck him. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Dazzler21 said:
    @Cafc43v3r
    Rather uninspiring options, but options: 

    GK
    Amos
    Maynard Brewer

    Defence
    Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
    Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington

    Midfield
    Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
    Morgan | Pratley | Vennings

    Attack
    Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
    Washington | Bogle | Maddison

    Missing the wage cap deadline has stuffed us a bit. I think this’ll be a season of lower top ten. Then go for it next season. 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    Dazzler21 said:
    @Cafc43v3r
    Rather uninspiring options, but options: 

    GK
    Amos
    Maynard Brewer

    Defence
    Gunter | Inniss | Pearce | Maatsen
    Oshilaja | Barker | Famewo | Purrington

    Midfield
    Levitt | Watson | Gilbey
    Morgan | Pratley | Vennings

    Attack
    Oztumer | Aneke | Williams
    Washington | Bogle | Maddison

    That team screams 9th place 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,678
    I don't know how much of the wage cap we left after Innis, but I'd rather we spunked it (hopefully around £5-10k per week) on one proven striker now, Eisa or Marquis for example. Can't remember the last time a side got out of league one without a goalscorer

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