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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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I don't get the hype around Albie, yes he can hit a Hollywood pass but what else does he do?
What he definitely doesn't do is work hard for the team. If you watch him, he's sneaky, he hides and tries to make it look like he's working but how often do you see him winning the ball or hassling the opposition in to a mistake... not very!
He looked like maybe the penny had dropped in lockdown, when he slimmed downed and played ok but also look like he's gone back to his old ways.
Hard work is what managers want in L1 & L2 so unless your going to build a team around him playing as a 10 you won't take him.
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I like the idea of us putting together a proper bid for Thomas. I don't know a great deal about him, apart from the fact he's played a hell of a lot of games by 21, but it's nice to hear we're identifying targets we want and putting together money bids. Feels like a proper football team
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I've come to realise that when Cawley tweets the player's name, usually we're there or thereabouts. He doesn't scupper deals in that way, so I think we should expect this to happen.40
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Maybe it means they're listening to what Bowyer says about him and Bowyer probably isn't really selling his pros. He loves to focus on Albie's lack of tracking back. He needs to remember that Albie is clearly an attacking midfielder and will learn as he plays. Not everyone is a box to box midfielder.ForeverAddickted said:
With so many Managers unimpressed by Albie does it mean they're right and that us fans are wrong to rate him so highly?KentishAddick said:
Seems crazy to me that no one in L1 or 2 is willing to take Albie on loanForeverAddickted said:
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Not sure we need another non-scoring forward, but we will need to have faith in developing him into one.0
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TBF, I’ve seen him play a couple of times. He isn’t there to score goals. He is more of a creator then a goal scorer.ElliotCAFC said:I’m sure he’s a player with potential, but 5 goals in 75 at National League level is poor3 -
Great range of passing and a powerful shot? Sounds like a CAM to me.dickplumb said:I also quite like Albie but I agree with Bowyer, as a midfielder he needs to do his fair share of defensive work. I have watched him since he was a sixteen year old and he hasn't changed. Great range of passing, powerful shot and that is it. He should be learning from one of the best midfielders we have produced, Lee Bowyer.2 -
I've always got the feeling Albie has an attitude problem. I may be wrong on that. It's just something I've picked up from Bowyer's answers on him and how curt he is on the Albie subject. Especially the "He's fine. No. He's fine," answer the other week. Now making a point of saying no league clubs coming for him. I have always thought he might be trying to put him in his place.1
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So true! I doubt Sky Sports beat him for details each time a deal is closing! He just keeps it very ITK until confirmation.SamE7 said:I've come to realise that when Cawley tweets the player's name, usually we're there or thereabouts. He doesn't scupper deals in that way, so I think we should expect this to happen.2 -
Good point as that reaction (was it the Lincoln game?) was really odd with how straight forward he wasChunes said:I've always got the feeling Albie has an attitude problem. I may be wrong on that. It's just something I've picked up from Bowyer's answers on him and how curt he is on the Albie subject. Especially the "He's fine. No. He's fine," answer the other week. Now making a point of saying no league clubs coming for him. I have always thought he's might be trying to put him in his place.0 - Sponsored links:
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I wonder if we can find an interview with Albie. It's usually so easy to spot a pleasant or aggy attitude for lads his age!?Chunes said:I've always got the feeling Albie has an attitude problem. I may be wrong on that. It's just something I've picked up from Bowyer's answers on him and how curt he is on the Albie subject. Especially the "He's fine. No. He's fine," answer the other week. Now making a point of saying no league clubs coming for him. I have always thought he's might be trying to put him in his place.0 -
Lee Bowyer has mentioned this about the U23 players before. They are good going forward but lacking defensively.Cafc43v3r said:
@dickplumb you watch a lot of academy football. When did we, and seemingly everyone else, start producing players that a very specific skill set and if we are being honest being average at best at everything else?dickplumb said:I also quite like Albie but I agree with Bowyer, as a midfielder he needs to do his fair share of defensive work. I have watched him since he was a sixteen year old and he hasn't changed. Great range of passing, powerful shot and that is it. He should be learning from one of the best midfielders we have produced, Lee Bowyer.
All the players we seem to have produced recently (especially midfielders) seem have an outstanding asset, and massive weeknesses, I see this reflected in the England set up as well. Is it talent identification that's changed or academy coaching?2 -
Jonny Williams scored the 5th goal of his entire career last night in his 210th game.ElliotCAFC said:I’m sure he’s a player with potential, but 5 goals in 75 at National League level is poor
I'm sure this Thomas is a creator, not a goalscorer, plus he'd be one for the future and like Bonne will cost us relatively nothing.6 -
ElliotCAFC said:I’m sure he’s a player with potential, but 5 goals in 75 at National League level is poor
It's tell us he's not a goal scorer but what are his assist stats ?
Is he just a winger or does he track back and play midfield( mandatory in football now)
As FA said, this is more like the "midfielder"
definitely not the striker.
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I wonder if this Thomas bid makes him the striker Bows was talking about or the midfielder. Hopefully the latter.1
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Looks decent and glides past players. Likes to get crosses on and puts the opposition in the back foot which is what we’re lacking at the moment.ButtleJR said:https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_p1EgnDU_0/?igshid=zlcjq78btn39
Seems to be predominantly a left winger, comfortable on the ball with good end product. Only 21 too.6 -
Bonne had a pretty impressive goal scoring record at Orient but he still managed to split opinion playing for us as a striker, not too fussed about him only having 5 in 750
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As Bows said he wanted a striker I'm sure Thomas is either the midfielder or the 'bonus'MarcusH26 said:I wonder if this Thomas bid makes him the striker Bows was talking about or the midfielder. Hopefully the latter.6 -
Chunes said:I've always got the feeling Albie has an attitude problem. I may be wrong on that. It's just something I've picked up from Bowyer's answers on him and how curt he is on the Albie subject. Especially the "He's fine. No. He's fine," answer the other week. Now making a point of saying no league clubs coming for him. I have always thought he's might be trying to put him in his place.
I believe your wrong unless being laid back is an attitude problem ?
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Agreed, he gets his info from Bowyer and Gallen and is always cautious about releasing info. Would suggest it’s close.SamE7 said:I've come to realise that when Cawley tweets the player's name, usually we're there or thereabouts. He doesn't scupper deals in that way, so I think we should expect this to happen.8 - Sponsored links:
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To be fair Jonny Williams has spent most of his career at a much higher level.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Jonny Williams scored the 5th goal of his entire career last night in his 210th game.ElliotCAFC said:I’m sure he’s a player with potential, but 5 goals in 75 at National League level is poor
I'm sure this Thomas is a creator, not a goalscorer, plus he'd be one for the future and like Bonne will cost us relatively nothing.A fairer comparison might be Jamal Lowe, who got 29 in 48 at the same level before he moved to Pompey.Like you say, hopefully he’s a creator.0 -
I reckon it's something to do with well rounded players who are decent at everything but not outstanding in any field not standing out enough. They tend to be viewed as "boring" by many (Henderson, Milner immediately spring to mind)Cafc43v3r said:
@dickplumb you watch a lot of academy football. When did we, and seemingly everyone else, start producing players that a very specific skill set and if we are being honest being average at best at everything else?dickplumb said:I also quite like Albie but I agree with Bowyer, as a midfielder he needs to do his fair share of defensive work. I have watched him since he was a sixteen year old and he hasn't changed. Great range of passing, powerful shot and that is it. He should be learning from one of the best midfielders we have produced, Lee Bowyer.
All the players we seem to have produced recently (especially midfielders) seem have an outstanding asset, and massive weeknesses, I see this reflected in the England set up as well. Is it talent identification that's changed or academy coaching?0 -
Looking at Thomas' record - if we must judge a young winger on goals - he scored all five last season which is a sign of development.8
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Had a search but doesnt seem possible to get that information for National League playerssoapboxsam said:ElliotCAFC said:I’m sure he’s a player with potential, but 5 goals in 75 at National League level is poor
It's tell us he's not a goal scorer but what are his assist stats ?
Is he just a winger or does he track back and play midfield( mandatory in football now)
As FA said, this is more like the "midfielder"
definitely not the striker.0 -
The answer was Sam Field, Lyle Taylor and Jonathan Leko in that Forest game. They provided a platform for Ozzy to perform.soapboxsam said:The mystery is how did Oztumer have a fantastic 60 minute debut against Forest but never get close to that form again ?
Our movement and pressing in that 60 minutes was incredible.
Taylor was constantly moving back and forth across the Forest back line. Leko was as slippery as an eel with his unpredictable runs and dribbles dragging defenders all across the park, creating loads of space in midfield for a constantly moving and aware Oztumer to exploit, fed by a stream of crisp passing by Field in DM.
It was Sam Field's first start - and with Cullen, mopped up nearly everything in front of our defence. Oztumer was always moving, always making himself available. And the movement around and in front of him allowed him to perform.
It feels like he's never since had so much freedom to play his own game.
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Henry Irving said:Charlton have made a six-figure bid for Boreham Wood winger Sorba Thomas. 21-year-old seen as one of the hottest properties in non-league. He came through West Ham’s academy, and has also been tracked by QPR and Barnsley #cafc
If he signs for us and scores, looking forward to see him doing Sorba's Dance7 -
Of course but we all know why.Scoham said:
Aiden McGeady, David Davis and Matt Smith was definitely scraping the barrel.Exiled_Addick said:
Bowyer will wait to get the best he can. The only time he has settled for “scraping the barrel” was signing Josh Parker and evening he wasn’t as bad as some would have you believe.charltonbob said:
Said this the other day, come the close of the window there could be a lot of players out of contract that we couldn't afford to pay their demands but all of a sudden 100k a year might be preferable to fuck all. Problem is do we scrape the barrel just to get numbers in or wait & hope to pick some up who's out of contract.Garrymanilow said:
Just depends on the player really and what they want to achieve. We're definitely not paying Williams what he was on at Palace (£20,000 pw), or Amos what he was on at Bolton (£16,000 pw). Even Pratley was on £14,000 pw at Bolton. Sure they signed before the cap, but Chris Gunter was on £20,000 pw at Reading and you can bet he's not on that now. If a player wants to make a fresh start and prove himself then he'll take a decent pay cut if that's what he wants to do. The fact he's cancelled his contract with Everton implies he wants to play somewhere. I don't know if he's fit to play or if we'd be interested in him, or if he just wants to sit on a pile of money like a dragon, but just ruling players out because they earned more money off their last contract isn't wise. The only way we're getting anywhere with this cap is uncovering players at a lower level on lower wages than what we can offer, or finding players who played at a higher level and have foundered or reached an age where they need to take a cut to keep playing. Rule no-one outFULLERpromise said:
If was still championship possibly yes. But A lot of people seem to keep forgetting about this cap or are being completely unrealistic. The guy would fit with Charlton as he has basically been injured almost 90% of his time out on loan which is why he was sent back one year yes one year early. He also was on 17,500 a week so don’t think he would sign for 2k a week somehow to a league one club. We need to focus on a striker in league 2 on bottom end of league one who may sell to us and be able to not have issues with salary cap. Or a loan for an unproven but talented prem 2 striker would be a much more realistic option.Garrymanilow said:Everton have just released Shani Tarashaj. Strange one that. Was thought to be a real prospect four years ago and then seems to have played progressively fewer games since then, culminating in not playing a single game on loan at an Eredivisie club who cut it short. I wonder if we would have a look at him, no idea if he's completely gone to pieces or just needs a fresh start. Striker/winger3 -
Guessing Sorba Thomas is the bonus player then as we still have two loan spots to fill?7
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Cawley has a direct line to Bowyer and given we know Bowyer likes (or tries) to keep deals under the radar as best he can, i think if Cawley is tweeting something then we know it's either 100% true or a deal is near.SamE7 said:I've come to realise that when Cawley tweets the player's name, usually we're there or thereabouts. He doesn't scupper deals in that way, so I think we should expect this to happen.
Having said that, Ransom tweeted it first, and he's also highly reliable, so if both are pushing it then it's obviously true.
I don't see how a non league side can turn down a 6 figure fee in the current climate. It could pay their wage bill for months.5 -
Left handed player - can play in midfield and up front - Sounds like a long term Alfie replacement to me ?0
