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Fairytale of New York

stonemuse
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Considering The Pogues themselves dont care why should anyone else
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    Altering lyrics because listeners "may" find it offensive.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    You scumbag, you maggot you cheap lousy fagot .....
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    Fucking woke shit!
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    cafc999 said:
    Altering lyrics because listeners "may" find it offensive.
    no different to all explicit songs being censored on the radio currently.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    edited November 2020
    Croydon said:
    cafc999 said:
    Altering lyrics because listeners "may" find it offensive.
    no different to all explicit songs being censored on the radio currently.
    Generally explicit songs have words like fuck or shit in them and not a word that "may" mean something other than a large meatball 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    You scumbag, you maggot you cheap lousy fagot .....
    That's the best bit.
    I've always loved the song well before many even knew it.
    Gradually, it's become a Xmas favourite, much to my surprise.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    My favourite Christmas song, you always know Christmas is around the corner when that starts getting played on the radio.

    Rather they didn't change the lyrics but not overly bothered TBH.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,628
    edited November 2020
    https://youtu.be/TUSNzqqLFT0

    The making of the fairytale of New York

    Well worth a watch.
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  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    A flea in the ear for Loathesome Fox. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    guinnessaddick said:
    https://youtu.be/TUSNzqqLFT0

    The making of the fairytale of New York

    Well worth a watch.
    Agreed, it’s great. 

    The Pogues box set has a few demos to listen to. 

    Just Look Them Straight In The Eye And Say... Poguemahone!! - The Pogues Box Set


  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    I read somewhere that Kirsty MacColl before she passed away when singing live changed the wording as she didnt like to say it either.

    Also Shane MacGowan apparently doesnt like the word and only used it because it fitted the narrative of 2 arseholes arguing.

    But as I said if The Pogues whose song it is don't care then why should it matter
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    paulie8290 said:
    I read somewhere that Kirsty MacColl before she passed away when singing live changed the wording as she didnt like to say it either.

    Also Shane MacGowan apparently doesnt like the word and only used it because it fitted the narrative of 2 arseholes arguing.

    But as I said if The Pogues whose song it is don't care then why should it matter
    I’ve seen them live many times including with Kirsty ... she always sang the correct lyrics as did Shane 
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited November 2020
    stonemuse said:
    paulie8290 said:
    I read somewhere that Kirsty MacColl before she passed away when singing live changed the wording as she didnt like to say it either.

    Also Shane MacGowan apparently doesnt like the word and only used it because it fitted the narrative of 2 arseholes arguing.

    But as I said if The Pogues whose song it is don't care then why should it matter
    I’ve seen them live many times including with Kirsty ... she always sang the correct lyrics as did Shane 
    Well she definitely didnt on top of the pops 





    Before anyone says Top of the Pops was pre watershed, they kept Slut and Arse in, the only changed word was Faggot and that was in 1992


  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    Wait until you find out what the band's name means.

    Fox getting "owned" as we kids say. Well said the Pouges.

    Nothing too see here, made up storm in a tea cup over nothing. Coming soon - Muslims have banned Santa and schools aren't allowed to put on a nativity plays.

    PS the Nips were better and wait till you find out what that was short for.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Can't say it really bothers me one way or the other, but I can't help but wonder why they haven't got better things to do. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    stonemuse said:
    paulie8290 said:
    I read somewhere that Kirsty MacColl before she passed away when singing live changed the wording as she didnt like to say it either.

    Also Shane MacGowan apparently doesnt like the word and only used it because it fitted the narrative of 2 arseholes arguing.

    But as I said if The Pogues whose song it is don't care then why should it matter
    I’ve seen them live many times including with Kirsty ... she always sang the correct lyrics as did Shane 
    Ditto.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,980
    Can they sensor it all? Fucking awful song.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Yet Radio 2 is playing the original version 
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  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,855
    Anna_Kissed said:
    A flea in the ear for Loathesome Fox. 
    Whatever your thoughts on Fox, labelling him a Nazi (as the Pogues have effectively done) is loathsome. I do wonder if they know what the Nazis stood for or did.

    By the by, not my favourite Christmas song by some margin. God knows why, but love "simply having a wonderful Christmas time" by McCartney and Wings.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    It IS culturally interesting that Radio 1 are playing the edited version, whereas Radio 2 will play the original. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,447
    Henry Irving said:
    Wait until you find out what the band's name means.

    Fox getting "owned" as we kids say. Well said the Pouges.

    Nothing too see here, made up storm in a tea cup over nothing. Coming soon - Muslims have banned Santa and schools aren't allowed to put on a nativity plays.

    PS the Nips were better and wait till you find out what that was short for.
    The Nipple Erectors - I remember the Nips and have a single of theirs.

    Not a fan of censorship when it comes to the arts - people can be unpleasant and use unpleasant language. By the logic of Radio 1 we should start censoring literature, plays etc that use offensive language.

    Perhaps we should just ban the past because it doesn't conform to modern standards.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    I wonder how many people getting worked up over this actually listen to Radio 1? It's not as if you won't hear it anywhere else (hundreds of times) over the Christmas period.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    edited November 2020
    SporadicAddick said:

    By the by, not my favourite Christmas song by some margin. God knows why, but love "simply having a wonderful Christmas time" by McCartney and Wings.
    Sorry, that's a red card offence.







    :smile:
    Waits for someone to say their favourite is Mistletoe and Wine / Cliff Richard.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    It is a decision based on creating a false debate and the publicity that goes with it.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    cafc999 said:
    Croydon said:
    cafc999 said:
    Altering lyrics because listeners "may" find it offensive.
    no different to all explicit songs being censored on the radio currently.
    Generally explicit songs have words like fuck or shit in them and not a word that "may" mean something other than a large meatball 
    Except you know that isn't the meaning in this context.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Don’t lyrics that may cause offence in songs get censored every single day?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,804
    Don’t worry about 50k dead from COVID, worry about a word on a station where this song will sound weird enough already 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Come on it's funny.
    I get all worked up and then thought to myself I dont even listen to radio 1

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