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Fairytale of New York
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8 million is hardly "no one".AddicksAddict said:
Because no one listens to Radio 2?MrOneLung said:Yet Radio 2 is playing the original version0 -
Reckon Radio 2 gets a significant amount of more listeners than Radio 1AddicksAddict said:
Because no one listens to Radio 2?MrOneLung said:Yet Radio 2 is playing the original version3 -
I think it's a shame that this song is the subject of column inches because of a decision to broadcast an edited version (something the BBC started to do thirteen years ago).
We should really just listen to the heart-warming lyrics which have a special poignancy this year. A violent argument between an alcoholic and a heroin abuser reflecting, depressingly about their futures. It's what Christmas really should be about.7 -
and Radio 2 average age of listener is 56, Radio 1 is 30. I would expect the full version on Radio 2 or 6 Music where the age of the listenership is older, not Radio 1 where it likely to be heard more by kids.
I find people's relationship with Radio 1 weird, it's like the station shouldn't change from how they remember it when they were 150 -
Well that’s Radio 1 I won’t be listening to anymore.
I’ll miss Simon Mayo and Gary Davies, but I’ve got my principles12 -
When I was 15 it was pretty much all crap Smashy and Nicey stuff until 10.00pm when John Peel came on and he played some terrible stuff too quite often.Rothko said:and Radio 2 average age of listener is 56, Radio 1 is 30. I would expect the full version on Radio 2 or 6 Music where the age of the listenership is older, not Radio 1 where it likely to be heard more by kids.
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I had this discussion with my daughter (19) a while back. My favourite Christmas song by a country mile but she objected to the "faggot" part. We had a discussion and agreed to disagree.
Now Lawrence Fox has waded in, I think she was right.6 -
You do Annie Nightingale a disservice.Henry Irving said:
When I was 15 it was pretty much all crap Smashy and Nicey stuff until 10.00pm when John Peel came on and he played some terrible stuff too quite often.Rothko said:and Radio 2 average age of listener is 56, Radio 1 is 30. I would expect the full version on Radio 2 or 6 Music where the age of the listenership is older, not Radio 1 where it likely to be heard more by kids.
I find people's relationship with Radio 1 weird, it's like the station shouldn't change from how they remember it when they were 152 -
Fair enoughAddickted said:
You do Annie Nightingale a disservice.Henry Irving said:
When I was 15 it was pretty much all crap Smashy and Nicey stuff until 10.00pm when John Peel came on and he played some terrible stuff too quite often.Rothko said:and Radio 2 average age of listener is 56, Radio 1 is 30. I would expect the full version on Radio 2 or 6 Music where the age of the listenership is older, not Radio 1 where it likely to be heard more by kids.
I find people's relationship with Radio 1 weird, it's like the station shouldn't change from how they remember it when they were 150 -
Back in the 80s the word faggot was rarely used as a homosexual insult in the UK anyway, it always was more of an American usage. After in the UK a faggot is a type of meatball while fag is a cigarette or a public school term for junior pupils forced to do chores for senior pupils.
I guess this is an example of how language has evolved, and how the internet in particular has spread American usage around the English speaking world.c. slang (originally and chiefly North American). Frequently derogatory and offensive. A homosexual man, sometimes spec. one considered to be effeminate; (occasionally) a lesbian. Also more generally: any man considered to be effeminate; (as a term of abuse or contempt) a weak or cowardly man or boy; a sissy. Cf. fag n.5The usual sense in North America.0 - Sponsored links:
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28 years on I doubt the same people are making the decisions...SantaClaus said:This is the same BBC that didn't have a problem with The Shamen playing Ebenezer Goode on Top of the Pops.
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Addick Addict said:I was gutted when Gary Glitter was banned by the BBC. Used to have his poster on my wall when I was growing up along with ones of Jimmy Saville and Jonathan King. At least they're still playing Michael Jackson.Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas is one of my favourite Christmas songs. As is Alvin Stardust's Merry Christmas Everyone. Don't hear them much over here!0
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Change it and let's just stop all of this nonsense. A non story.0
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Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?0
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Some Snowflake that's trying to make a name for himself.ValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?4 -
I laughed so hard at this my drink came out my eyesi_b_b_o_r_g said:
Conspiracy mate. First they take away our pubs and bars, now they're stopping us listening to Kirsty McCall sing faggot.Huskaris said:It's designed to make you angry.
You're supposed to be angry that they did it, or angry that people are angry that they did it.
Then you go online, and watch other people getting angry at each other, minor celebrities and the like. Find a couple of extreme examples and make them representative of everyone you disagree with...
I don't know why but I feel like all media is constantly trying to turn us into overly opinionated furious people. All media.
And for so many people it's working.
Hope it snows this year, so i can kick my snowperson on the penina1 -
He accused a modern day witch burner or being a witch. It's incensed/inspired the usual suspects.ValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?1 -
is he claustrophobic then?i_b_b_o_r_g said:Didnt Tony Blackburn refuse to play Down In The Tube Station once upon a time?1 -
an actor, sister of Amelia, related to James & Edward FoxValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?0 -
He's an (ex - now cancelled) actor who dared to challenge the sacred belief/conspiracy theory/divisive bollocks that is the concept of 'white privilege' on Question Time. He was called racist for pointing out that making generalised derogatory statements about folk based on the colour their skin was probably racist, what with it being the dictionary definition and all. Unfortunately, the person he defended himself against was not only a woman, but also not white and in the woke pantheon they are infallible and always right (unless they vote Tory, in which case they're race traitors). For this he must BURN! Pile on!ValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?
Also made himself look a bit of an arse in an argument about Sikhs in the British Army in WWI. Doesn't always choose his battles wisely.
He is now a kind of Trump replacement figure to the woke (they have to tweet about someone else all day now that the orange one is being slowly shuffled, unwillingly, toward the exit door - they will need someone else to spend their whole day hating now) and as such has become the virtue signallers 'go to'. He's also posh, making him even more of a hate figure on the left, although he probably comes from the same demographic as most of those who run and support the Labour Party.
So get online and tweet about how much you hate him in order to inveigle yourself into the woke tribe and rack up some 'right on' points with the righteous. It's all the rage!
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He’s trying to make a living out of saying that the country is declining because there’s people out there being too nice.ValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?2 -
There is something about Emilia though - even if her acting is a bit wooden and her brother’s a bit of a cock, although it’s maybe refreshing for someone to speak their thoughts (and in his case the thoughts of many) rather keep them locked up. Debate is required unless it turns into mud slinging on social media.0
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White privilege isn't a concept. It is fact, though the term is too simplistic for the nuance.bigstemarra said:
He's an (ex - now cancelled) actor who dared to challenge the sacred belief/conspiracy theory/divisive bollocks that is the concept of 'white privilege' on Question Time. He was called racist for pointing out that making generalised derogatory statements about folk based on the colour their skin was probably racist, what with it being the dictionary definition and all. Unfortunately, the person he defended himself against was not only a woman, but also not white and in the woke pantheon they are infallible and always right (unless they vote Tory, in which case they're race traitors). For this he must BURN! Pile on!ValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?
Also made himself look a bit of an arse in an argument about Sikhs in the British Army in WWI. Doesn't always choose his battles wisely.
He is now a kind of Trump replacement figure to the woke (they have to tweet about someone else all day now that the orange one is being slowly shuffled, unwillingly, toward the exit door - they will need someone else to spend their whole day hating now) and as such has become the virtue signallers 'go to'. He's also posh, making him even more of a hate figure on the left, although he probably comes from the same demographic as most of those who run and support the Labour Party.
So get online and tweet about how much you hate him in order to inveigle yourself into the woke tribe and rack up some 'right on' points with the righteous. It's all the rage!
White privilege is best articulated as the absence of additional hardships on the basis of skin colour - not that "all white people" have it good or better than non-white people. (It would be absolutely ridiculous to accuse a working-class twenty-something unemployed white man from Burnley, for instance, of being more privileged than myself overall, for instance.)I'd like to clarify that the following isn't based on whatever specific Fox incident you're talking about, but invoking a dictionary definition is always a fun one. Racism is an incredibly complex topic and defining it strictly according to a book that originated with white people is probably not the path to go down.
But if we are to follow a dictionary definition - what the fuck are you on about with this "woke pantheon" and supposed infallibility of women of colour? Can you perhaps not make generalisations about non-white people?
What is "wokeism" to you? What is "virtue signalling"? You use these terms with derision but I've not seen you define them.4 -
Must be a winner at cliche bingo, thoughPaddyP17 said:
White privilege isn't a concept. It is fact, though the term is too simplistic for the nuance.bigstemarra said:
He's an (ex - now cancelled) actor who dared to challenge the sacred belief/conspiracy theory/divisive bollocks that is the concept of 'white privilege' on Question Time. He was called racist for pointing out that making generalised derogatory statements about folk based on the colour their skin was probably racist, what with it being the dictionary definition and all. Unfortunately, the person he defended himself against was not only a woman, but also not white and in the woke pantheon they are infallible and always right (unless they vote Tory, in which case they're race traitors). For this he must BURN! Pile on!ValleyGary said:Who’s Lawrence Fox and why has everyone got their arse in the air about him?
Also made himself look a bit of an arse in an argument about Sikhs in the British Army in WWI. Doesn't always choose his battles wisely.
He is now a kind of Trump replacement figure to the woke (they have to tweet about someone else all day now that the orange one is being slowly shuffled, unwillingly, toward the exit door - they will need someone else to spend their whole day hating now) and as such has become the virtue signallers 'go to'. He's also posh, making him even more of a hate figure on the left, although he probably comes from the same demographic as most of those who run and support the Labour Party.
So get online and tweet about how much you hate him in order to inveigle yourself into the woke tribe and rack up some 'right on' points with the righteous. It's all the rage!
White privilege is best articulated as the absence of additional hardships on the basis of skin colour - not that "all white people" have it good or better than non-white people. (It would be absolutely ridiculous to accuse a working-class twenty-something unemployed white man from Burnley, for instance, of being more privileged than myself overall, for instance.)I'd like to clarify that the following isn't based on whatever specific Fox incident you're talking about, but invoking a dictionary definition is always a fun one. Racism is an incredibly complex topic and defining it strictly according to a book that originated with white people is probably not the path to go down.
But if we are to follow a dictionary definition - what the fuck are you on about with this "woke pantheon" and supposed infallibility of women of colour? Can you perhaps not make generalisations about non-white people?
What is "wokeism" to you? What is "virtue signalling"? You use these terms with derision but I've not seen you define them.2 -
What a depressing thread.6
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Some posts on this thread bring to mind some lyrics to another song.
All I Wanna Do by Sheryl Crow.
"I wonder if he's ever had a day of fun in his whole life".3 -
Just as so many are.Covered End said:What a depressing thread.
Constantly and deliberately headed off on a tangent where a good percentage of posters really don't want to hear anymore. A steady stream of white noise, derailing subjects and starting to get irritating on a football forum. The constant pontificating doesn't really seem to change peoples opinions as 95% posters here are decent, honest people who really do have a sense of humility and justice - even the Millwall posters.
We get it. Life isn't fair and then you die.11 -
It's like a faux intellectual circlejerk on some of these threads sometimes. You weren't invited, but you stumble in and are horrified at what you see...Covered End said:Some posts on this thread bring to mind some lyrics to another song.
All I Wanna Do by Sheryl Crow.
"I wonder if he's ever had a day of fun in his whole life".
But still... You just can't stop watching... No matter how hard you try...
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White noise? I hope noise of colour is suitably included.Addickted said:
Just as so many are.Covered End said:What a depressing thread.
Constantly and deliberately headed off on a tangent where a good percentage of posters really don't want to hear anymore. A steady stream of white noise, derailing subjects and starting to get irritating on a football forum. The constant pontificating doesn't really seem to change peoples opinions as 95% posters here are decent, honest people who really do have a sense of humility and justice - even the Millwall posters.
We get it. Life isn't fair and then you die.
I think what these threads do for me is make me realise that some people are so unhealthily obsessed with race (even though they are coming from a good place) that it can come up at literally any turn, and it will.
Unfortunately it is best to leave people like that to it, because it really is an obsession. They're not bad people, just terribly misguided and really don't understand what life is about.9 -
Not a bad rule to live by, the lady was a saintpaulie8290 said:
So you rule to live by is if it didnt shock Maggie Thatcher its fine with you 🤣🤣addick1956 said:
Because I don't want some PC near do well trying to tell me I may be shocked by something that didn't even shock Maggie Thatcher in the 80's is moralistic and rewriting history to there moral stand point to which we should never now, frankly.paulie8290 said:I read somewhere that Kirsty MacColl before she passed away when singing live changed the wording as she didnt like to say it either.
Also Shane MacGowan apparently doesnt like the word and only used it because it fitted the narrative of 2 arseholes arguing.
But as I said if The Pogues whose song it is don't care then why should it matter1
