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Charlton Athletic v Milton Keynes | Wednesday 02 December | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

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  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    edited December 2020
    Sage said:
    MattF said:

    Interesting to see a heat map of that
    Here's one where they had 69% possession

    A hell of a lot in the defensive and middle third and lots more down their left hand side too. They also very clearly play short goal kicks too, a few traps can be set here.

    This example though, was before Surman signed so might be slightly different with him in the middle of the park.
    My bad, was veing very lazy with my search. Much more recent one that includes Surman (albeit for 60 minutes)

  • MattF said:
    Sage said:
    MattF said:

    Interesting to see a heat map of that
    Here's one where they had 69% possession

    A hell of a lot in the defensive and middle third and lots more down their left hand side too. They also very clearly play short goal kicks too, a few traps can be set here.

    This example though, was before Surman signed so might be slightly different with him in the middle of the park.
    My bad, was veing very lazy with my search. Much more recent one that includes Surman (albeit for 60 minutes)

    Thats a lot of sideways passing...
  • A team with 3 wins in 14 should mean we won’t at least lose but football doesn’t work like that 
    2-3 to MK and at least we’ll get better when everyone is fit 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,786
    Sage said:
    You may have also noticed I have only called our opposition MK or Milton Keynes. Nothing about them is 'Dons' so without any disrespect, to me they're MKFC or Milton Keynes FC.
    No disrespect but they ARE Wimbledon, but we won't  start that old arguement again. 

    I'm going for a draw tonight. 2-2.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,283
    MattF said:
    Sage said:
    MattF said:

    Interesting to see a heat map of that
    Here's one where they had 69% possession

    A hell of a lot in the defensive and middle third and lots more down their left hand side too. They also very clearly play short goal kicks too, a few traps can be set here.

    This example though, was before Surman signed so might be slightly different with him in the middle of the park.
    My bad, was veing very lazy with my search. Much more recent one that includes Surman (albeit for 60 minutes)

    Thats a lot of sideways passing...
    You can see though that Surman probably attempted the most forward passes in the team, especially in midfield, the majority of the weren’t successful.

    Says to me their movement to progress up the pitch isn’t very good, but they are great at keeping the ball in areas we would be happy for them to have it, and playing it to the left.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,853
    Am I the only one on here that’s astounded that @sage is only 25!? I had you at around 50 mate! ;) 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,152
    ozaddick said:
    Am I the only one on here that’s astounded that @sage is only 25!? I had you at around 50 mate! ;) 
    No - and I mean that in a complementary way!
  • ozaddick said:
    Am I the only one on here that’s astounded that @sage is only 25!? I had you at around 50 mate! ;) 
    I know he’s half my age but 10 times more mature than I am , fucking grown up 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,080
    Feelin’ excited! Think we’ll win 2-0, the 1,800 supporters roaring us to victory. 

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  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,152
    Woke up this morning with a level of excitement comparable to the semi-final against Donny and the game at Wembley. I think I need to find a way of burning off some nervous energy.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,423
    Blucher said:
    Woke up this morning with a level of excitement comparable to the semi-final against Donny and the game at Wembley. I think I need to find a way of burning off some nervous energy.
    A re-run of the Burton game should do the trick @Blucher
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,152
    mendonca said:
    Blucher said:
    Woke up this morning with a level of excitement comparable to the semi-final against Donny and the game at Wembley. I think I need to find a way of burning off some nervous energy.
    A re-run of the Burton game should do the trick @Blucher
    Behave ! Although, come to think of it, we tend not to excel on cold midweek evenings in front of sparse Valley League 1 crowds...
  • Blucher said:
    Woke up this morning with a level of excitement comparable to the semi-final against Donny and the game at Wembley. I think I need to find a way of burning off some nervous energy.
    The thought of sitting around in the cold for 90 minutes somewhat dampens my nervous energy!
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,587
    MattF said:
    Sage said:
    MattF said:

    Interesting to see a heat map of that
    Here's one where they had 69% possession

    A hell of a lot in the defensive and middle third and lots more down their left hand side too. They also very clearly play short goal kicks too, a few traps can be set here.

    This example though, was before Surman signed so might be slightly different with him in the middle of the park.
    My bad, was veing very lazy with my search. Much more recent one that includes Surman (albeit for 60 minutes)

    Just over half of their passes (in both matches) are between their 3 defenders and the keeper.

    Wonder how ours compares!
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,587
    Sorry for stealing your idea @MattF:


  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    5-0 Charlton, Bogle x5

    OMAR, OMAR BOGLE , HE SCORES ALL THE FUCKING GOALS

    BOGLE, BOGLE BOGLE , ALL NIGHT LONG 

  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Charlton win this 3-1, lets see us move to 2nd spot still with at least 1 game in hand over others. The 2,000 fans will help make a difference. COYR's
  • Sage said:
    You may have also noticed I have only called our opposition MK or Milton Keynes. Nothing about them is 'Dons' so without any disrespect, to me they're MKFC or Milton Keynes FC.
    Absolutely right. Well done.
    I wouldn't worry about showing disrespect anyway, given how they got into the league, and continue to use that suffix.
    Great review again btw

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,423
    Possibly, just the 8 first team players out for this game. 

    Come on Charlton, let's show our (in person) fans a win for the first time this season :-)
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,911
    Very comfortable home win.

    1-0
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,965
    bobmunro said:
    Very comfortable home win.

    1-0
    Yep, 1-0 home wins are very comfortable, until Squeaky Bum time  in the last 10 minutes when we sit too deep.

    And that's before the ref adds on "a minimum" of +7 minutes.  :neutral:


  • That passing map has f..ked my eyes up, home win 2-0.
  • Another good Sandgaard article in today’s Guardian, the feel good factor coming back to the club, the team performing well and fans back at the Valley for tonight’s match, what could possibly go wrong?

    Cue typical charlton performance when all the omens are good, 1-2 defeat ;)
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    Do I watch this tonight or Play football with my team?
    Enjoy both, but fitness is creeping back and I don't want to waste any opportunity to play... 

    We'll see what the boss lady says when she gets home. 
  • ozaddick said:
    Am I the only one on here that’s astounded that @sage is only 25!? I had you at around 50 mate! ;) 
    I know he’s half my age but 10 times more mature than I am , fucking grown up 
    Youth is wasted on the young.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,052
    Blucher said:
    Woke up this morning with a level of excitement comparable to the semi-final against Donny and the game at Wembley. I think I need to find a way of burning off some nervous energy.
    The thought of sitting around in the cold for 90 minutes somewhat dampens my nervous energy!
    Do the same as me and turn up the central heating............sorry, you mean you are going to the match  :)
  • alicwkd
    alicwkd Posts: 374
    edited December 2020
    I know it's not for everyone, but MK are currently 5th in the xG table. They are one of the league's best sides between the boxes but haven't always been clinical at the sharp end.

    But for me, they are close to being a very good side and have several canny players, Scott Fraser in particular is championship level. Think this is a tougher game than the league table suggests. 

    That said, we look better when sides open up and play football, rather than sit back and contain. They will push up and leave space in transition. Players like Washington, Williams and Maddison should thrive with that.

     We have to remain patient as we won't see much of the ball, but I am confident we have enough to hurt them with quick attacking transitions and win the game. 


  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Really interesting one this one.  We tend to do better when we don't have the ball and they love having it - could be good for us.

    If you look at the table and our form you might be fooled into thinking this is a home banker but they have a good spine - certainly at L1 level - in Keogh, Surman and Jerome.

    I'd like to think we will win but I am thinking a 2-1...maybe Maddison with something a little bit tasty for the winner and another for Bogleman