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Alfie Doughty - Signed for another club (p19)
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I agree. If we now get a fee of around a million and, a fair sell on, then he ought to go and make a fresh start.
Loaning him back would create a further kind of player clutter and it's bad enough as it is.
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Loaning back would be for him to get fit for next season at his new club. At that same time, we can teach him a harsh lesson by offering our injury invoking services.0
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If we know we will lose him for nothing at the end of the season, it makes sense to loan him back and get something out of him and a fee.8
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Joining Stoke to be Morgan Fox understudy!0
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Not sure what to think of this. Find it strange given Bowyer's stance of not wanting to play players who refuse to sign new contracts. He was vocal in saying he thought Alfie should stay and develop with us, but now will be happy to give him games despite the fact he's leaving?1
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Bowyer has lost his mind, such a hypocrit. Ironically, if he hadn't fannied around so much at the end of last season, we'd still be in the championship, not stitched with budget restrictions and Alfie would more than likely still be a charlton player.matt88 said:Not sure what to think of this. Find it strange given Bowyer's stance of not wanting to play players who refuse to sign new contracts. He was vocal in saying he thought Alfie should stay and develop with us, but now will be happy to give him games despite the fact he's leaving?10 -
I'm very surprised at the above comments.
I think it's great news if we get Alfie back on loan.
We're crying out for some speed and a bit of quality and he would be a great addition to the squad.
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^^^ this with knobs on.shine166 said:
Bowyer has lost his mind, such a hypocrit. Ironically, if he hadn't fannied around so much at the end of last season, we'd still be in the championship, not stitched with budget restrictions and Alfie would more than likely still be a charlton player.matt88 said:Not sure what to think of this. Find it strange given Bowyer's stance of not wanting to play players who refuse to sign new contracts. He was vocal in saying he thought Alfie should stay and develop with us, but now will be happy to give him games despite the fact he's leaving?
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Stoke’s Head of Recruitment is Millwall, started their News At Den fan site and wrote for the SLP / Southwark News up to about five years ago1
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Can we get Jordan Cousins back on loan as part of the deal too? Decent option at this level for the holding role.0
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I think that's a great deal.
No real difference to getting the likes of Cullen or Beilek in on loan.
We know it's not going to be long term. They help push us to where we want to be and we say thanks very much and goodbye at the end of the season.2 -
Totally agree.carly burn said:I think that's a great deal.
No real difference to getting the likes of Cullen or Beilek in on loan.
We know it's not going to be long term. They help push us to where we want to be and we say thanks very much and goodbye at the end of the season.
If we are in with a shout at the end of the season then I would want a fit Doughty in the squad rather than not.13 -
He doesn't wanna be here so fck him. If he's coming back April he'll likely only play what, 4 games or so? Lets not waste our time and resources on his rehab for a player who won't sign a contract.4
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My initial thought was whether it was worth it, but if he does recover fully in the next 6-7 weeks, we would get 12-14 games out of him, plus possibly 3 more, so worth it. I like Dazzler’s suggestion too!0
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cafcsinger said:He doesn't wanna be here so fck him. If he's coming back April he'll likely only play what, 4 games or so? Lets not waste our time and resources on his rehab for a player who won't sign a contract.
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For me Doughty adds something to the squad. If we forget his contract shenanigans, on his return to fitness, would I want to see him on the pitch, I'd say definitely.bobmunro said:
Totally agree.carly burn said:I think that's a great deal.
No real difference to getting the likes of Cullen or Beilek in on loan.
We know it's not going to be long term. They help push us to where we want to be and we say thanks very much and goodbye at the end of the season.
If we are in with a shout at the end of the season then I would want a fit Doughty in the squad rather than not.3 -
If I were him I'd choose Bournemouth. Better chance of getting promotion & a much nicer place to live.8
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I reckon its more a case that none of the clubs had anyone decent to loan us. Or wanted to come to us.Pavoren007 said:My initial thought was whether it was worth it, but if he does recover fully in the next 6-7 weeks, we would get 12-14 games out of him, plus possibly 3 more, so worth it. I like Dazzler’s suggestion too!0 -
Michael O'Neill has to be one of the best (and most intelligent) managers in The Championship and would be very persuasive when talking with potential signings. On BBC Sounds there is a brilliant interview by Colin Murray in his "At home with..." series which is well worth a listen. Stoke are apparently at the limits of FFP but still have some expensive flops whose contracts are running out, so they will be in a better place financially next season.
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I was being facetious!addick1956 said:
Unattached but he wouldn't come back here after the bollocks he received from the brain dead clients the last time he was here.Cordoban Addick said:
Simon Francis?Richard J said:
Who plays for Bournemouth who might be worth taking in part exchange?killerandflash said:Bournemouth easily the most attractive offer. On 1st season down parachute payments so should be able to afford decent wages, play an attacking style of football, a good chance of promotion to the PL AND a more attractive (and nearer) place to move to than Stoke or Glasgow1 - Sponsored links:
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mendonca said:It's a deal where all 3 parties get something out of it.
Sounds like a good deal. Doesn’t affect the salary cap and is probably one of the better players in our team. If Doughty was match fit would be in the strongest 11? Absolutely.0 -
What is best for the team?
To me it is having Doughty available at a time when matches will come at 2 a week every week2 -
Great deal for us
He doesn't want to stay so we get some money in for him.
Another player available if we have injury issues at the end of the season.
As he is U21 also means that he doesn't count towards the dreaded wage cap.
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Is it hypocritical from Bowyer after formerly criticising those who won’t sign (and openly declaring they won’t play), or is there some caveat to that policy? For example, perhaps he thinks what we’re able to offer Doughty isn’t reasonable, whereas others were offered decent wages?
just a thought, as this seems odd to me after such a principled stance previously.2 -
No change of tune for me. This is like getting a final BJ from the missus who's eloping with the window cleaner.cafctom said:Ha! Expect some tunes to change very quickly now about the ‘lack of loyalty’, when Alfie was the one who stated he was keen to finish the season with us....9 -
Think Bows is doing what's best for the club - dont see a problem with that.fmaddick said:Is it hypocritical from Bowyer after formerly criticising those who won’t sign (and openly declaring they won’t play), or is there some caveat to that policy? For example, perhaps he thinks what we’re able to offer Doughty isn’t reasonable, whereas others were offered decent wages?
just a thought, as this seems odd to me after such a principled stance previously.
Club has sold him - he isn't our player so what's the problem with playing him as a loan if we need him ?
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Great analogy!Davo55 said:
No change of tune for me. This is like getting a final BJ from the missus who's eloping with the window cleaner.cafctom said:Ha! Expect some tunes to change very quickly now about the ‘lack of loyalty’, when Alfie was the one who stated he was keen to finish the season with us....0 -
BJ you say Davo, don't be too hasty 😉.Davo55 said:
No change of tune for me. This is like getting a final BJ from the missus who's eloping with the window cleaner.cafctom said:Ha! Expect some tunes to change very quickly now about the ‘lack of loyalty’, when Alfie was the one who stated he was keen to finish the season with us....0 -
Very true, but overflowing with parachute cash. However, if they don't get promoted before those payments stop they'll be in trouble.addick1956 said:Says it all when a club who can not house more than 10,000 or so are more attractive than us. Bloody sad .0 -
RedChaser said:
BJ you say Davo, don't be too hasty 😉.Davo55 said:
No change of tune for me. This is like getting a final BJ from the missus who's eloping with the window cleaner.cafctom said:Ha! Expect some tunes to change very quickly now about the ‘lack of loyalty’, when Alfie was the one who stated he was keen to finish the season with us....
Try and negotiate for a last window clean too
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