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Alfie Doughty - Signed for another club (p19)

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    And Washington continues to be forgotten lol 😉
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Dazzler21 said:
    And Washington continues to be forgotten lol 😉
    Just how he likes it, for half a game. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Dazzler21 said:
    And Washington continues to be forgotten lol 😉
    Only didn’t mention him because Doughty and Millar allow us to play 4-3-3 effectively. Aneke is effective off the bench through the middle and Washington isn’t a winger but a player who needs a strike partner. That’s literally the only reason why.

    I like Washington by the way, works hard and is better than many give credit for.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    This is actually an ideal sale compared to others we've had to be honest. A lower fee to a middling club will mean that any profit would be immense, and the size of the club pretty much guarantees a future sale if he does well. If you sell a potentially world class player to a very big club you may as well have a 100% sell on fee, he's not going anywhere. Best thing for us is Stoke get promoted and then Doughty does well in the Prem and gets signed for big money by a bigger club
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Sounds like as good a deal as possible under all the circs although I’m not as a rule a big fan of players being loaned back for a few months after signing.  Makes them a bit of a target for the boo boys who might claim that their heart isn’t in it (not that the boo boys can attend at the moment but the point is nevertheless made).  In any case we are now well served in the speedy winger camp with Miller and Smyth. I wouldn’t play Miller on his wrong wing just to accommodate Alfie if the latter has essentially left us. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Sillybilly said:
    Sounds like as good a deal as possible under all the circs although I’m not as a rule a big fan of players being loaned back for a few months after signing.  Makes them a bit of a target for the boo boys who might claim that their heart isn’t in it (not that the boo boys can attend at the moment but the point is nevertheless made).  In any case we are now well served in the speedy winger camp with Miller and Smyth. I wouldn’t play Miller on his wrong wing just to accommodate Alfie if the latter has essentially left us. 
    I thought Doughty had some of his better games out on the right personally.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    The signing is still risky as it assumes a full recovery from the injury - always a risk signing an injured player whose pace is a key quality.

    I'm surprised we couldn't get him to sign a new contract.
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,428
    With the salary cap in place, there was no chance of retaining him, especially when his agent could see another pay day looming on the horizon.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    The signing is still risky as it assumes a full recovery from the injury - always a risk signing an injured player whose pace is a key quality.

    I'm surprised we couldn't get him to sign a new contract.
    All to do with his agent. Reckon if Sandgaard was in a bit earlier and we offered it in the summer, maybe with a clause to speak to clubs higher up if we didn't get promoted end of this season, we would've had a chance
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    sam3110 said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    The signing is still risky as it assumes a full recovery from the injury - always a risk signing an injured player whose pace is a key quality.

    I'm surprised we couldn't get him to sign a new contract.
    All to do with his agent. Reckon if Sandgaard was in a bit earlier and we offered it in the summer, maybe with a clause to speak to clubs higher up if we didn't get promoted end of this season, we would've had a chance
    That was the type of contract I expected and it would have given us a transfer fee. He's still pretty raw and would have been guaranteed a start at Charlton.
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited January 2021
    Have to look at this as a signing. He's a loan signing now. And we're a club once again suffering with injuries, and we're signing a player who is long-term injured!

    Not only that but it's such a serious injury that he will have to be nursed back to fitness so very slowly. Not on board with this.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    addick1956 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    MattF said:

    That's a steal if he can get over this injury. Imagine if we got deals like that done!
    We have, buy selling him. My gripe is ,why loan him back when we need a centre half !
    No I mean, we never get really decent young players at a good price. 
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    edited January 2021
    IAgree said:
    So much for loyalty! 

    Get a few quid for him and leave if he doesn’t want to be at Charlton.
    Top bloke whose decision to which to remain with us on loan and help us get promoted shows his integrity.........I think! 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    Helps us get promoted and then Stoke plummet and get relegated.
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,558


    This maybe suggests he won't be going to Stoke?
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,558


    This maybe suggests he won't be going to Stoke?
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Alfie was coming back on loan supposedly so I doubt the Clarke deal would impact
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    edited January 2021
    EpsomAddick said:


    This maybe suggests he won't be going to Stoke?
    I don’t understand. Stoke need a winger, Doughty is injured and they have to loan him back to us as part of any deal. They still need a winger until the end of the season so they loan one.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited January 2021
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
    Against a bloke who had no right to be right back! 

    Sage for me I feel like Aneke and likely Schwartz both have to start. Do you think Doughty and Millar would work as traditional wingers in a flat 4-4-2 or is that a little too old school. 
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    I have been researching the lad a bit today and he looks a great prospect. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I have been researching the lad a bit today and he looks a great prospect. 
    Fair enough, he took both his goals exceptional well. So I don't doubt he has talent - but he was not as effective when we changed formation and he up against Gunter. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    I am not thinking about this season, but he is 17. Scored a great goal against Wigan a few weeks ago.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    EpsomAddick said:


    This maybe suggests he won't be going to Stoke?
    The word is that Bob Munro has been suggesting young Jack to the Stoke management all week. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    FishCostaFortune said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
    Against a bloke who had no right to be right back! 

    Sage for me I feel like Aneke and likely Schwartz both have to start. Do you think Doughty and Millar would work as traditional wingers in a flat 4-4-2 or is that a little too old school. 
    Don't they both play on the left?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
    Looked lost against a proper full back and was taken off. Is there anything about Charlton you like?


  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited January 2021
    Dazzler21 said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
    Against a bloke who had no right to be right back! 

    Sage for me I feel like Aneke and likely Schwartz both have to start. Do you think Doughty and Millar would work as traditional wingers in a flat 4-4-2 or is that a little too old school. 
    Don't they both play on the left?
    I believe they are both left footed, but have also played on the right wing. Which is not uncommon for wingers. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    FishCostaFortune said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
    Against a bloke who had no right to be right back! 

    Sage for me I feel like Aneke and likely Schwartz both have to start. Do you think Doughty and Millar would work as traditional wingers in a flat 4-4-2 or is that a little too old school. 
    Don't they both play on the left?
    I believethey are both left footed, but have also played on the right wing. Which is not uncommon for wingers. 
    Millar's right footed isn't he? He liked to cut in from the left and shoot with his right.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Scoham said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Use the fee to buy Baah. He looks a better prospect than Doughty!
    Against a bloke who had no right to be right back! 

    Sage for me I feel like Aneke and likely Schwartz both have to start. Do you think Doughty and Millar would work as traditional wingers in a flat 4-4-2 or is that a little too old school. 
    Don't they both play on the left?
    I believethey are both left footed, but have also played on the right wing. Which is not uncommon for wingers. 
    Millar's right footed isn't he? He liked to cut in from the left and shoot with his right.
    He is. The way to overcome this is to have a left footed right back. 😉
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    eaststandmike said:
    EpsomAddick said:


    This maybe suggests he won't be going to Stoke?
    The word is that Bob Munro has been suggesting young Jack to the Stoke management all week. 
    Bogle actually.

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