Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
New kits - 2020/21 Season
Comments
-
The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)0
-
Always love the stuff Kappa bring out. Not great for the larger man mind.1
-
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)0 -
CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.
1 -
Yeah, Nike dumped Umbro off after a couple of years for a loss, but not before getting their hands on the England deal.0
-
100% true. Umbro signed a long term deal with England (lf my memory serves me right it was for something like 20 years). Nike wanted the England deal as its one of the top selling kits in the business and bought Umbro. They then produced a couple of kits under the Umbro label before dumping it.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.0 -
Looks like you are correct. Bought by Nike in last 2007, sold on to Iconix Brands in 2012. On the surface it looks like Nike made a big lose, bought for £285m, sold for $225m (so around a £100m loss in 5 years), but I'm sure Nike moved for more than that in contracts over from Umbro to themselves.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.
If you look at the current Nike deal with the FA, it's supposedly worth £400 million (to the FA) over 3 years. I can't imagine Nike taking anything less than a £100m profit on that deal, so just on deals with the FA since they acquired Umbro they've probably made their money back 3 times over.0 -
So are Umbro no more then ? I noticed they can supply the England rugby team. I've never seen a rugby team wearing Umbro and it doesn't really look right, like many new things I guess.cafc999 said:
100% true. Umbro signed a long term deal with England (lf my memory serves me right it was for something like 20 years). Nike wanted the England deal as its one of the top selling kits in the business and bought Umbro. They then produced a couple of kits under the Umbro label before dumping it.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.0 -
still exist, owned by a US clothing company ICONIX, and they are dabbling in rugby as well as football9goalswentpastperry said:
So are Umbro no more then ? I noticed they can supply the England rugby team. I've never seen a rugby team wearing Umbro and it doesn't really look right, like many new things I guess.cafc999 said:
100% true. Umbro signed a long term deal with England (lf my memory serves me right it was for something like 20 years). Nike wanted the England deal as its one of the top selling kits in the business and bought Umbro. They then produced a couple of kits under the Umbro label before dumping it.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.0 -
I think Umbro supplied kits for the Lions in the 80s? Theyve also done training wear for England rugby too in the 80s early 90s, so theres is a link with Umbro and Rugby.9goalswentpastperry said:
So are Umbro no more then ? I noticed they can supply the England rugby team. I've never seen a rugby team wearing Umbro and it doesn't really look right, like many new things I guess.cafc999 said:
100% true. Umbro signed a long term deal with England (lf my memory serves me right it was for something like 20 years). Nike wanted the England deal as its one of the top selling kits in the business and bought Umbro. They then produced a couple of kits under the Umbro label before dumping it.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.1 - Sponsored links:
-
Umbro still produce kits in South America0
-
Umbro have teamed up with pretty green to do a range of retro football stuff largely based around England's euro 96 kit and training wear0
-
West Ham wear Umbro along with a number of Championship clubs and the Republic of Ireland0
-
as do Heartskillerandflash said:West Ham wear Umbro along with a number of Championship clubs and the Republic of Ireland1 -
I think it was the Man UTD shirts Nike wanted not England.cafc999 said:
100% true. Umbro signed a long term deal with England (lf my memory serves me right it was for something like 20 years). Nike wanted the England deal as its one of the top selling kits in the business and bought Umbro. They then produced a couple of kits under the Umbro label before dumping it.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.
Umbro didn't want to sell as it was from Manchester and all big fans of the club.
Nike bought Umbro, became the UTD Sponsor and then sold Umbro when Ferguson retired and they had a dip in form.0 -
I would say Hummel have given us our best kits of the 21st century. Macron did us a couple of decent ones too. I would not be supportive of the idea we go to one of the big boys - I don't want see anyone else wearing our kit just in different colours. I'd honestly prefer a lower quality kit designed by a smaller firm but that was bespoke. Not that I the Hummel kits are low quality - definitely better than the Nike ones we had.
2 -
For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.2
-
I spoke directly to the Nike rep during the kit unveil at Nike Town London. According to them the England shrt was something like the 2nd or 3rd top selling shirt in the world at the time. Brazil was top. The rumour had been going around for a few months from various kit reps visiting the store where I had a long term contract (Soccer Scene)tom_k said:
I think it was the Man UTD shirts Nike wanted not England.cafc999 said:
100% true. Umbro signed a long term deal with England (lf my memory serves me right it was for something like 20 years). Nike wanted the England deal as its one of the top selling kits in the business and bought Umbro. They then produced a couple of kits under the Umbro label before dumping it.milo said:CAFCTrev said:
Some of the recent Umbro kits have been good for other clubs. I think they are actually owned by Nike now though, so Im not sure if that means they would dump a template on us.Rothko said:The only big brand I would go with is Umbro (I still think they are a big brand, cause I'm old)
The story I heard and it could be nonsense was, Nike wanted the England contract but England were tied in with Umbro. Nike bought Umbro, took over England's shirt deal and then sold Umbro on.
Umbro didn't want to sell as it was from Manchester and all big fans of the club.
Nike bought Umbro, became the UTD Sponsor and then sold Umbro when Ferguson retired and they had a dip in form.
Pretty certain that Nike had already secured the Utd deal, and had so for a number of years too.
Soccer Scene used to get boxes of England shirts the week before release so they could print them up with names & numbers in prep for launch day and they used to fly out. The biggest selling name? Beckham - even after he was dropped, and by a long way too!
Adidas were toying with the idea of England too but knew they had no chance as they were German.
Mike Ashley also had a secret deal with Umbro for the England shirts where he got to sell them a day early and some of the lables even had sports direct printed on them, he also got to sell them cheaper.1 -
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.2 - Sponsored links:
-
cafcdave123 said:
Funny you should post that. A couple of months ago I saw a pic of Liam at Maine Road (I think) wearing an Umbro kagool. A few days later I was doing some online shopping and found a navy blue Umbro tracksuit top for 15 quid. Thought it was bit old school, and not something you see around too much, so picked it up. Not sure I'd spend £75+ for a Pretty Green version though!0 -
Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?
0 -
Too much.ElfsborgAddick said:Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?0 -
even with the 25% off!Dazzler21 said:
Too much.ElfsborgAddick said:Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?
really like our Hummel kits, best for many a year................still agree though that adidas make the best1 -
If it doesnt have a thousand embroidered Charlton swords on the front and back, a hologram with Curbs signature on it at on the lower left, a QR code on the sleeve that will play Valley Floyd Road when scanned, and the names of every unused sub from the Duchatalet era stiched on the inside collar then weve just been dumped with another shitty template.6
-
Historically, yes. However, nowadays it would just be another template kit for us if we went with Adidas.Elthamaddick said:
even with the 25% off!Dazzler21 said:
Too much.ElfsborgAddick said:Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?
really like our Hummel kits, best for many a year................still agree though that adidas make the best1 -
Yeah, Adidas trade a lot on heritage, to cover for the rubbish they produce now1
-
£32.50 + £5 delivery,ElfsborgAddick said:Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?1 -
Stewart said:
£32.50 + £5 delivery,ElfsborgAddick said:Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?
This would be a reasonable price when released, not when on sale.
1 -
Sorry, it was £37.50 + £5 delivery.ElfsborgAddick said:Stewart said:
£32.50 + £5 delivery,ElfsborgAddick said:Dazzler21 said:
Overpriced chuff... All the big names are now.ElfsborgAddick said:For quality you have to go a long way to beat Adidas.
How much are we selling shirts for btw?
This would be a reasonable price when released, not when on sale.£42.50 in total1
