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ARB is a great UK story, a company competing against US equivalents. Spike in SP due to a very good, open BoD, Peter Wall the main man, and deciding to get a listing on the OTC and eventually Nasdaq thus opening themselves up to US investors. US Tech stocks fare so much better than FTSE. What they do is mine Bitcoin (simply look for good Bitcoin deals) this year Bitcoin surged, and with ARB’s growth plans the SP surged hugely. Recently they invested significantly in more efficient machines (IT kit) to hunt for better Bitcoin prices and with this capex and Bitcoin faltering share price dropped.Personally I don’t see them going less than 50p with a potential to be £2.00 come the winter, the Biden bounce & Bitcoin becoming evermore able to be used corporately.
Just my humble opinion of course, I bought at just over 9 pence last summer and sold 80% @ £1.20, holding onto the other 20% now as it’s casino money.These spikes, highs and lows are not uncommon with US tech stocks. To reiterate not a recommendation to buy just a cheap & cheerful summary of the company and recent price movements.1 -
Is it easy to transfer shares from one person to another when ‘gifting’ them? A quick Google search suggests you need to complete a stock transfer form but it’s then a bit unclear what you do with it.0
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Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?
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Huskaris said:Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?
...I think the answer is that HMRC would see huge cash withdrawals from the cash accounts and require that the executors explain where it went. When the executors can't explain where it went, I assume that the HMRC will consider the amounts to have been 'gifted' to persons unknown and, therefore, apply a 40% IHT levy. Makes sense to me given that everyone on here has been telling me that HMRC are always all over everything like a rash and can/will seek bank statements going back 10 years.1 -
Yeah that makes sense.meldrew66 said:Huskaris said:Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?
...I think the answer is that HMRC would see huge cash withdrawals from the cash accounts and require that the executors explain where it went. When the executors can't explain where it went, I assume that the HMRC will consider the amounts to have been 'gifted' to persons unknown and, therefore, apply a 40% IHT levy. Makes sense to me given that everyone on here has been telling me that HMRC are always all over everything like a rash and can/will seek bank statements going back 10 years.
I guess it's not a case of finding that it has gone to someone who should be paying IHT, instead a case of proving that it hasn't gone to someone who should be paying IHT0 -
The onus is on the Executor/ Estate to show where the money is or has gone to. Until then HMRC will want their 40%.Huskaris said:
Yeah that makes sense.meldrew66 said:Huskaris said:Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?
...I think the answer is that HMRC would see huge cash withdrawals from the cash accounts and require that the executors explain where it went. When the executors can't explain where it went, I assume that the HMRC will consider the amounts to have been 'gifted' to persons unknown and, therefore, apply a 40% IHT levy. Makes sense to me given that everyone on here has been telling me that HMRC are always all over everything like a rash and can/will seek bank statements going back 10 years.
I guess it's not a case of finding that it has gone to someone who should be paying IHT, instead a case of proving that it hasn't gone to someone who should be paying IHT1 -
I would imagine the solicitor dealing with the Estate deals with it all. In my (limited) experience clients have generally sold the shares & put the money into something else. I've often used a Discretionary Fund Manager (DFM) who offer a "share exchange" facility, who take the shares & sell them on your behalf, with the proceeds going into one of their share portfolios. They can do it all at once or over a period of time, depending if there is any CGT allowance left. In this scenario they usually handle the stock transfer forms & I have sat with a few clients watching them signing them before sending them back to the DFM.meldrew66 said:Is it easy to transfer shares from one person to another when ‘gifting’ them? A quick Google search suggests you need to complete a stock transfer form but it’s then a bit unclear what you do with it.
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Think you will find you then send the Transfer form to the Registrar of the particular company who’s share you are transferring.meldrew66 said:Is it easy to transfer shares from one person to another when ‘gifting’ them? A quick Google search suggests you need to complete a stock transfer form but it’s then a bit unclear what you do with it.0 -
Give them their 40%, it will only be on the cash sent to turn into Bitcoin, it will be worth 50x that within a weekgolfaddick said:
The onus is on the Executor/ Estate to show where the money is or has gone to. Until then HMRC will want their 40%.Huskaris said:
Yeah that makes sense.meldrew66 said:Huskaris said:Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?
...I think the answer is that HMRC would see huge cash withdrawals from the cash accounts and require that the executors explain where it went. When the executors can't explain where it went, I assume that the HMRC will consider the amounts to have been 'gifted' to persons unknown and, therefore, apply a 40% IHT levy. Makes sense to me given that everyone on here has been telling me that HMRC are always all over everything like a rash and can/will seek bank statements going back 10 years.
I guess it's not a case of finding that it has gone to someone who should be paying IHT, instead a case of proving that it hasn't gone to someone who should be paying IHT
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It's a bit of a faff (assuming they are paper shares?), if this is to do with your father, it may not be worth it as I 'think' the gift value will be at the time of gift, but they may go down so you'll pay IHT on an amount higher than the now value.
Been a while since I did it but you needed a CREST transfer form, you may need to open a dealing account etc.
Just sell them and transfer the cash.0 - Sponsored links:
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This. Holding individual.shares is really a thing of the past. Something that people did mainly for the dividends (my grandfather had a few like M&S, Shell & Unilever) and the dividends supplemented their income - esp in retirement. Things have moved on & now you can hold shares in an ISA (all tax free & within a collective for more diversity) then holding individual shares is really not a great idea imo.Rob7Lee said:It's a bit of a faff (assuming they are paper shares?), if this is to do with your father, it may not be worth it as I 'think' the gift value will be at the time of gift, but they may go down so you'll pay IHT on an amount higher than the now value.
Been a while since I did it but you needed a CREST transfer form, you may need to open a dealing account etc.
Just sell them and transfer the cash.0 -
Funnily enough its actually quite difficult to hide money like that in crypto - unless you use specific coins, even then nearly all centralised exchanges require a KYC when cashing out or cashing in money for or from crypto. The entire point of something like bitcoin is you can literally track every transaction.Huskaris said:Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?0 -
I have had cause to buy bitcoin quite a few times and they've never asked me for anything on Coinbase! I think like you said though about KYC, generally much stricter on withdrawals than deposits!kentaddick said:
Funnily enough its actually quite difficult to hide money like that in crypto - unless you use specific coins, even then nearly all centralised exchanges require a KYC when cashing out or cashing in money for or from crypto. The entire point of something like bitcoin is you can literally track every transaction.Huskaris said:Bizarre though about inheritance tax.... And weaves together a few things.
What is to stop someone putting all of their cash into a cryptocurrency when they are ill, and then sending that cryptocurrency to someone, who can then cash it in at a later date. It would presumably be incredibly hard to trace?0 -
bump..................
FTSE down 80 points (1.2%) at lunchtime today.
Now hovering around the 6600 level. 2 weeks ago it was at 6870.0 -
Funnily enough was looking this morning, will re-invest this PM what I rebalanced and transferred.0
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Hi all – my friend is moving money out of SJP due to fees and mediocre performing funds over the course of 6 years.
I've built my own portfolio up very nicely over the past years through past knowledge, research, ft, chats with friends in finance and excellent pointers on here.
I don't feel comfortable "advising" my friend to follow a similar riskier portfolio like mine. At most I would advise placing as much into the Stocks and Share ISA allowance pre and post April, into Managed funds. We know BG Managed has outperformed the market but what other mid risk managed funds would you recommend?0 -
Suggest for starters they look at Vanguard LifeStrategy as a starting point.2
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Your "friend" should speak to an IFA who would then asses his/her own individual attitude to risk, taking into account time horizons, & capacity for loss.mendonca said:Hi all – my friend is moving money out of SJP due to fees and mediocre performing funds over the course of 6 years.
I've built my own portfolio up very nicely over the past years through past knowledge, research, ft, chats with friends in finance and excellent pointers on here.
I don't feel comfortable "advising" my friend to follow a similar riskier portfolio like mine. At most I would advise placing as much into the Stocks and Share ISA allowance pre and post April, into Managed funds. We know BG Managed has outperformed the market but what other mid risk managed funds would you recommend?
Outside of that, Multi Asset funds run by Liontrust & Royal London are a good start.3 -
Anyone see what the subreddit Wall Street bets are doing? They’ve basically wiped out Melvin Capital, an investment firm, by buying options on GameStop (that Melvin had shorted), a stock for a company clearly on its way down. Hilarious. Rumours are next thing they’re gonna go for is AMC, pump the stock of another failing business.2
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Yup saw that and someone put it on here on the Twitter thread! Don't think they are wiped out though but have lost an awful lot.kentaddick said:Anyone see what the subreddit Wall Street bets are doing? They’ve basically wiped out Melvin Capital, an investment firm, by buying options on GameStop (that Melvin had shorted), a stock for a company clearly on its way down. Hilarious. Rumours are next thing they’re gonna go for is AMC, pump the stock of another failing business.0 - Sponsored links:
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FTSE100 falling again today. Now at 6560 - down 1.3%. Hoping there is support around the 6500 level
On a slightly different note - I was watching a webinar about the Lindsell Train UK Equity fund (as I know a few on here hold it in their portfolios). Its mainly a large cap fund & only holds 26 stocks. Nick Train is a bit of a conviction manager & doesn't trade in & out very much. I would say it should be a satellite holding & not a core one as it may buck the market at times & doesn't follow trends.
HTH.3 -
market opens in USA and etoro and trading 212 have crashed, after seeing AMC stock go up about $10 in as many minutes.
NASDAQ CEO says they will suspend trading on a stock if they see unusual social media activity. So it's ok for hedge funds to market manipulate, but not ordinary people?11 -
I trimmed mine back so only have a bit in one ISA now and a couple of £k in my SIPP.golfaddick said:FTSE100 falling again today. Now at 6560 - down 1.3%. Hoping there is support around the 6500 level
On a slightly different note - I was watching a webinar about the Lindsell Train UK Equity fund (as I know a few on here hold it in their portfolios). Its mainly a large cap fund & only holds 26 stocks. Nick Train is a bit of a conviction manager & doesn't trade in & out very much. I would say it should be a satellite holding & not a core one as it may buck the market at times & doesn't follow trends.
HTH.0 -
HL has been abysmal today. Couldn't get in or out of a number of stocks, UK and US.
IG any better for those on that platform?0 -
Zynex shooting up today, against the general tide. Now $20.70, up about 9.5%.
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That made me take a look at the charts. I'm a long term fan of his Global Equity fund, bought my holdings in the UK fund more recently. Certainly this last 12 months the UK fund has disappointed compared with the sector and the Global Equity fund not much better. But I'm holding it on the basis that -as you keep reminding us - UK stocks are due a re-valuationgolfaddick said:FTSE100 falling again today. Now at 6560 - down 1.3%. Hoping there is support around the 6500 level
On a slightly different note - I was watching a webinar about the Lindsell Train UK Equity fund (as I know a few on here hold it in their portfolios). Its mainly a large cap fund & only holds 26 stocks. Nick Train is a bit of a conviction manager & doesn't trade in & out very much. I would say it should be a satellite holding & not a core one as it may buck the market at times & doesn't follow trends.
HTH.
Is it still the case that the professionals still worry about the sheer size of the Global fund especially? I'm loath to dump a fund manager who has made me a decent amount of money on short term under-performance; especially one brave and creative enough to invest in Juventus and Celtic. Oh, hang on, Celtic...
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I’ve just today took some profit out of the BG funds, so they’ll shoot up then 😂0
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Did anyone buy some GME stock?0
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Not GME, but have a few PLTR, GEVO and GSX which are behaving favourablyBigRedEvil said:Did anyone buy some GME stock?0 -
I got on GME, Nokia and AMC early but with small amounts because I didn't want to gamble too much, build a bear followed a similar trend but I didn't get on thatNo.1 in South London said:
Not GME, but have a few PLTR, GEVO and GSX which are behaving favourablyBigRedEvil said:Did anyone buy some GME stock?0
