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Simple poll. The Valley or new stadium.

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  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,915
    C. Home is where your heart is, and mine is at the Valley 
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,890
    seth plum said:
    A.
    But with the North Lower as a standing section.
    But also a block (possibly block G in the East Stand) designated for woke anti racist vegan/vegetarian non Tory brexit hating supporters.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
    Agree with block G but can you insert Gluten Free ahead of vegan/veggie as it's not a lifestyle choice, unless it's a no-arguments block as well ;-)
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    edited February 2021
    iaitch said:
    Could the east stand go any higher now that they've built houses behind it?

    40,000 would be 50% increase, be a bit of a squeeze getting to the station.
    There has always been houses behind The East stand, the full length of the stadium in fact.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    se9addick said:
    New stad-i-um,
    The mist rolling in from the Thames,...

    Nah, just doesn't sound right.
    We could name the new stadium after the nearby airport, then it might work, something like:

    ”City Ground
    The most rolling in from the...”
    Call it that and Lyle would want to come and play for us.
  • Managers, players and even owners come and go but the one constant for us Charlton fans is the Valley.
    And long may it be so. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,811
    Stay at the Valley and in the Premier League, 27k is big enough, 32k probably would be.

    just needs a refurb when TS gets ownership 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    iaitch said:
    Could the east stand go any higher now that they've built houses behind it?

    40,000 would be 50% increase, be a bit of a squeeze getting to the station.
    There has always been houses behind The East stand, the full length of the stadium in fact.
    I know that but these new ones seem to be very close, loss of light etc, planners getting a bit arsy.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    The Valley was big enough when we were last in the PL and if anything with the increased TV revenues since then there would be less of requirement to build it higher if we got back anytime soon.

    Also I have never understood the link between a new bigger stadium and increased support.  The prices at The Valley are already in some areas priced very low so that would not be something we could introduce as an incentive at a new ground. More seats creates less demand for some games so season tickets may not be in demand from some as they would be at a 27k Valley.

    The attendances have took a kicking over the past few seasons so that needs to be built up again, along with understanding what effect the lockdown as had on some to go back to football again in the future.  Until we are selling out the ground on even an ad hoc basis at fairly normal prices its not even something to look at, unless RD starts playing silly buggers with the rent or disputes over who pays for what.
  • seth plum said:
    A.
    But with the North Lower as a standing section.
    But also a block (possibly block G in the East Stand) designated for woke anti racist vegan/vegetarian non Tory brexit hating supporters.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

    Bit optimistic requiring a whole block but I’m in. Just have to work out some songs specific to that area. ‘Lee Bowyer’s Chickpea Army’?!?
  • LMHR
    LMHR Posts: 172
    Valley 

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  • The Valley...it’s ours & it’s unique, could & should never even be thinking of leaving,if we ever f do get back to the PL it’s more than enough for little ole Charlton...👍
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,811
    The two clubs I who's model I think we'll follow, Brighton and Brentford. The Amex is only slightly bigger then the Valley. The issue with the Valley is hospitality, that'll be where they'll need to be investment.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,872
    Why oh why do we have to have this every year or so?

    It's already been said. The answer is c) - Stay at The Valley and play in the Premier League.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,036
    The elephant in the room is the sad old man in Belgium. Let's hope that when the time comes, Sandgaard can do a meaningful deal with him.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    Rothko said:
    The two clubs I who's model I think we'll follow, Brighton and Brentford. The Amex is only slightly bigger then the Valley. The issue with the Valley is hospitality, that'll be where they'll need to be investment.
    Exactly this. It's interesting that Brentford's new stadium will only have a 17K capacity. They obviously see the revenues coming from elsewhere, hospitality as you say, and streaming. The Valley is big enough overall, we need to somehow deal with the accoustics to make it more intimidating for away teams.
  • I'm not advocating a new stadium, but if we did want one we could probably buy a plot on one of those retail estates on Bugsby's Way with the way retail has been decimated by internet shopping
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,908
    The Valley - whatever division
  • did we get promoted or something recently? 
  • theeenorth
    theeenorth Posts: 2,280
    edited February 2021
    Oooh Premier League- DIV1 was better laugh.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    Massively against ever leaving the Valley. I'd hate us to sell our selves out for day tripper Premier league fans.

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,284
    Filling in the south corners and redeveloping the JS would take it to about 35k tops depending on how high they can take it. 

    A new stadium could feasibly fit in somewhere on the Peninsula, taking over where the golf range is for instance, or taking over some of the old industrial sites between The Thames and the A206. There's also a huge patch of land where Tivoli Gardens is that's been levelled, no idea what the plans for that are
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Take the £400M it would take to build a new stadium... take £200M of that and refurbish The Valley... take the other £200M and spend it on net incoming transfers and salaries over 4 years and we are in the PL. Win-win.
  • The Valley is our home. Simple. So we stay there. TS will be able to sort the ownership out. Just given him time.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    Just tidy up the south end of the stadium. Fill in the corners and make it a bit taller, like the Covered End, should take us to around 30,000 which is adequate.
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  • iaitch said:
    Just tidy up the south end of the stadium. Fill in the corners and make it a bit taller, like the Covered End, should take us to around 30,000 which is adequate.
    If we can return to gates of 27k regularly I'll be surprised. Also there's no guarantee or likelihood that TS plans for top end Premier League will actually materialise. If we can get to the top division, would we realistically stay there. Our history has not suggested that we are a top flight club. The last time we had average gates of 40k+ was in the 1940's even by the 50's they had dropped significantly. 65 odd years since we left the old first division, most years have been in Division Two / Championship, which would mean the Valley as it currently stands is perfectly adequate. I think we should be established in Premier League for at least 5 years before increasing stadium size. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,348
    J BLOCK said:
    Massively against ever leaving the Valley. I'd hate us to sell our selves out for day tripper Premier league fans.
    It wouldn’t be the first time 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    J BLOCK said:
    Massively against ever leaving the Valley. I'd hate us to sell our selves out for day tripper Premier league fans.
    It wouldn’t be the first time 
    Play nicely. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,348
    J BLOCK said:
    Massively against ever leaving the Valley. I'd hate us to sell our selves out for day tripper Premier league fans.
    It wouldn’t be the first time 
    Play nicely. 
    Come on mate, that was teed up perfectly for me. You can’t blame me for having a little prod there 😉