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The rise of the vegans.
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I've always believed that if I am going to eat meat, I should be able to kill an animal. Because essentially that's what I'm doing. And I always thought I could but a few months ago we ordered some seafood for delivery and the mantis shrimp (big things) were delivered alive and I couldn't kill them! Crazy. Just couldn't do it.
And then I thought about whether I could kill a chicken or a goat. And I really don't think I could.
I've since started eating vegetarian for lunch and breakfast. I have celiac disease so food choices are pain enough and I suppose I'm reluctant to add even more restrictions by going full veggie. But who knows.
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A few times lately I have mentioned to my partner ''doesn't it feel good to eat something knowing no animal was killed for it"Chunes said:I've always believed that if I am going to eat meat, I should be able to kill an animal. Because essentially that's what I'm doing. And I always thought I could but a few months ago we ordered some seafood for delivery and the mantis shrimp (big things) were delivered alive and I couldn't kill them! Crazy. Just couldn't do it.
And then I thought about whether I could kill a chicken or a goat. And I really don't think I could.
I've since started eating vegetarian for lunch and breakfast. I have celiac disease so food choices are pain enough and I suppose I'm reluctant to add even more restrictions by going full veggie. But who knows.
I can't remember who said that on this thread originally but it has helped cut her meat consumption.
Now it is very rarely Chicken (So many decent replacements now) or Fish maybe a couple of times a month.
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Had a couple of Morrison’s own brand Thai style fishless fish cakes with some jasmine sticky rice and a load of broccoli for my tea last night. Pretty good and the burps after tasted pretty authentic.5
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https://youtu.be/GRk6OAseMLQ
What speciesism actually is. 1 -
https://youtu.be/3vEfzY_zYzk
Five protein packed vegan meals. (Courtesy of Bosh. TV) 2 -
https://youtu.be/cAGjoG0pA_A
Vegan Moroccan style chickpea stew (Courtesy of Yeung Man Cooking) 2 -
https://youtu.be/Gen_w-ByWCs
Vegan Katsu curry recipe. (Courtesy of avantgardevegan) 1 -
https://youtu.be/FqN2NT3YhDE
New York style baked vegan cheesecake (Courtesy of avantgardevegan) 0 -
Ooh, It's Free Range... It comes from the UK... etc.
Don't be fooled. Conditions for the hens were appalling.
The best label of all? 'Suitable for Vegans'Hens that were “miserable, bleeding, decomposing or dead” have been found at three suppliers to one of the UK’s largest free-range egg brands.
Many UK supermarkets sell Happy Egg Company eggs, which are marketed as from hens that have not suffered.Activists complained to the UK’s advertising watchdog that the Happy Egg Company was “misleading consumers” in showing photographs of birds in lush, tree-filled pastures.
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Just like the RSPCA Assured products, the happy egg co. probably set out a minimum care requirement. They would then send mystery shopper types on random visits to all their farms to ensure their requirements are being met.Anna_Kissed said:Ooh, It's Free Range... It comes from the UK... etc.
Don't be fooled. Conditions for the hens were appalling.
The best label of all? 'Suitable for Vegans'Hens that were “miserable, bleeding, decomposing or dead” have been found at three suppliers to one of the UK’s largest free-range egg brands.
Many UK supermarkets sell Happy Egg Company eggs, which are marketed as from hens that have not suffered.Activists complained to the UK’s advertising watchdog that the Happy Egg Company was “misleading consumers” in showing photographs of birds in lush, tree-filled pastures.
I expect these farms will swiftly be dropped from their brand or ordered to fix their practices and processes.0 - Sponsored links:
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There is no suitable fixing of the egg industry, an industry that routinely throws male chicks into what are effectively blenders or just throws them into plastic bags to suffocate when they’re only days old. Funny that that’s never mentioned by companies such as the Happy Egg company. Keep the consumer oblivious to the horrific realities of a cruel industry.7
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https://youtu.be/REcDtwPZ3yw
Five vegan ‘meat’ dishes (courtesy of Bosh.TV) 2 -
https://youtu.be/mFlz0xPBULA
How To Cook With Lentils (Protein packed vegan recipes) (Courtesy of Bosh.TV) 2 -
https://youtu.be/sFedtvHkZeg
Five Ways To Make Tofu Taste Like Meat (Courtesy of Bosh.TV) 2 -
why arn't they just raised and eaten?AddickUpNorth said:There is no suitable fixing of the egg industry, an industry that routinely throws male chicks into what are effectively blenders or just throws them into plastic bags to suffocate when they’re only days old. Funny that that’s never mentioned by companies such as the Happy Egg company. Keep the consumer oblivious to the horrific realities of a cruel industry.1 -
Is there much evidence for this?AddickUpNorth said:There is no suitable fixing of the egg industry, an industry that routinely throws male chicks into what are effectively blenders or just throws them into plastic bags to suffocate when they’re only days old. Funny that that’s never mentioned by companies such as the Happy Egg company. Keep the consumer oblivious to the horrific realities of a cruel industry.2 -
Tons.JaShea99 said:
Is there much evidence for this?AddickUpNorth said:There is no suitable fixing of the egg industry, an industry that routinely throws male chicks into what are effectively blenders or just throws them into plastic bags to suffocate when they’re only days old. Funny that that’s never mentioned by companies such as the Happy Egg company. Keep the consumer oblivious to the horrific realities of a cruel industry.
https://www.kinderworld.org/videos/egg-industry/baby-chicks-ground-up-alive/
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Yeah I saw that website and a few questionable YouTube videos. Couldn’t see it on any reputable news websites though.0
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Are you kidding? It's common practice. Just like slaughtering young male cattle, at least they're used for Rose Veal... You know instead of mindless slaughter like these chicks.JaShea99 said:Yeah I saw that website and a few questionable YouTube videos. Couldn’t see it on any reputable news websites though.
What made the YT videos questionable? Are you saying this is fake?
https://youtu.be/yEJSWDuAiF8 0 -
Yeah. Back to the original question then.Dazzler21 said:
Are you kidding? It's common practice. Just like slaughtering young male cattle, at least they're used for Rose Veal... You know instead of mindless slaughter like these chicks.JaShea99 said:Yeah I saw that website and a few questionable YouTube videos. Couldn’t see it on any reputable news websites though.0 - Sponsored links:
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I don’t ‘need’ any sources. I simply asked if there was much evidence for the claim.0
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Then why question the reputability of what you found yourself? It's video evidence! Doesn't get any clearer.1
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Did you see the first word I bolded?0
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@JaShea99 - as @Dazzler21 has already told you and provided sources for I will reiterate that it IS common practice for male chicks to be either macerated, suffocated or gassed at a day or two old. It is standard industry practice. I’m not sure what you’re not getting?
@Stu_of_Kunming - they’re not raised and eaten because of the breed. Layer hens are bred for egg production and as such not big enough for meat. That’s why male chicks are considered as waste byproduct. There’s no money to be made from them.
https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-with-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry/4 -
All I asked was whether there was evidence that it’s common practice or not. If it’s true I’m not sure why it isn’t bigger news and doesn’t feature more prominently on major news sources. Maybe that’s naive though and the answer would be that it’s a big cover up.0
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JaShea99 said:All I asked was whether there was evidence that it’s common practice or not. If it’s true I’m not sure why it isn’t bigger news and doesn’t feature more prominently on major news sources. Maybe that’s naive though and the answer would be that it’s a big cover up.
You just seemed to be being deliberately obtuse with your persistence in repeating yourself. I can’t give you the precise reason why more people aren’t aware of it but in all honesty are the players in the egg industry, a multi million pound industry, going to want to highlight the horrendous truth about what they do when they know the possible reaction? Sad fact is they like to present their business as one where chickens happily potter about, enjoying life when for the vast majority of hens the opposite is true. Keep the consumer in the dark and the money keeps on rolling in.5 -
Here is some more news of how politicians and business reduce animals - each an individual, with its own personality - to a mere commodity. The plan is to fly calves from Ireland to other EU countries. Its proponents hail this as a welfare measure.Cows might fly: Ireland to jet calves to Europe to cut travel time
Live exports should have been banned years ago. If the following report upsets you, please give thought to adopting a plant-based diet. The more that do so, the nearer comes the day that the live animal trade shall cease.
Expanding dairy herds have seen surplus male calves shipped to the continent for veal, but there is unease over welfare conditionsIrish authorities have announced plans to fly unweaned dairy calves from Ireland to other EU destinations from May, in an effort to address growing unease about the length of the journeys made by thousands of animals shipped each year to mainland Europe.
Ireland’s 1.6 million dairy herd is ever-expanding and the country is grappling with increasing numbers of calves born each spring. About 750,000 male dairy calves are born each year. Most are sold into the domestic beef sector, but approximately 30,000 are slaughtered, while 200,000 are earmarked for live export by road and sea for veal production on the continent.
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https://youtu.be/d5wabeFG9pM
As Anna_Kissed has raised the issue of the dairy industry I recommend anyone interested in the truth about another cruel industry watch this documentary. Produced by and narrated by Joey Carbstrong, ‘Milk - Make Your Own Mind Up’ reveals the reality of an industry that exploits and condemns sentient beings to a life of exploitation and ultimately an untimely demise. 2 -
I wasn’t being obtuse, I was repeating myself because there wasn’t much of an answer beyond a few websites, a video and a “why aren’t you just taking everything you see on the internet at face value?” kind of attitude. The articles and video were horrific, obviously. But it was mainly the words ‘routinely’ and ‘common practice’ etc that I was questioning.AddickUpNorth said:JaShea99 said:All I asked was whether there was evidence that it’s common practice or not. If it’s true I’m not sure why it isn’t bigger news and doesn’t feature more prominently on major news sources. Maybe that’s naive though and the answer would be that it’s a big cover up.
You just seemed to be being deliberately obtuse with your persistence in repeating yourself. I can’t give you the precise reason why more people aren’t aware of it but in all honesty are the players in the egg industry, a multi million pound industry, going to want to highlight the horrendous truth about what they do when they know the possible reaction? Sad fact is they like to present their business as one where chickens happily potter about, enjoying life when for the vast majority of hens the opposite is true. Keep the consumer in the dark and the money keeps on rolling in.0
