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Bridge at the Thames Barrier?

Weegie Addick
Weegie Addick Posts: 16,568
in General Charlton
Now this is an idea I could get behind wholeheartedly.

Fly into City Airport (assuming that's a thing in the future) and WALK to The Valley!

https://charltonchampion.co.uk/2021/03/26/take-a-step-into-charltons-future-support-proposals-for-a-thames-barrier-bridge/

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,829
    great concept, but no way you’ll be allowed to build that bridge that close to a piece of critical national infrastructure 
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,734
    Trouble is London City airport is closed between 1pm Saturday until 1pm Sunday. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,568
    Dansk_Red said:
    Trouble is London City airport is closed between 1pm Saturday until 1pm Sunday. 
    We have lots of midweek matches, though. 
  • redashdave
    redashdave Posts: 65
    Rothko said:
    great concept, but no way you’ll be allowed to build that bridge that close to a piece of critical national infrastructure 


    I don't know why not , I think it's a great idea

    Much better than the Silvertown Tunnel with it's resultant environmental pollution

  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,049
    I like it.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,404
    This idea is almost specifically designed to appeal to me. I've long ached to cross at the Barrier so I can watch the birds on the extensive North Woolwich mudbanks
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,392
    Problem with a bridge anywhere downstream of Tower Bridge, is that it needs to be able to open to allow ships through, or be high enough for it to not be a problem (QE2). both of these factors add several 0's to already astronomical prices. 
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    A 'Thumbs Up' from me. The journey to the Lee Valley Velodrome would be much quicker and easier. RB Greenwich's politicians remain stuck in the dark ages, supporting the toxic Silvertown Tunnel. They should ditch that and support this pedestrian and cycling proposal instead. Sort it out, Mr Thorpe.
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,711
    There are twin tunnels below the barrier, but they're pretty sensitive about who can use them, certainly not Joe Public :neutral:    
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,568
    sam3110 said:
    Problem with a bridge anywhere downstream of Tower Bridge, is that it needs to be able to open to allow ships through, or be high enough for it to not be a problem (QE2). both of these factors add several 0's to already astronomical prices. 
    The images suggest ot could open.

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,568
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    There are twin tunnels below the barrier, but they're pretty sensitive about who can use them, certainly not Joe Public :neutral:    
    I've tried but never quite managed the clearance level. 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,450
    edited March 2021
    Leuth said:
    This idea is almost specifically designed to appeal to me. I've long ached to cross at the Barrier so I can watch the birds on the extensive North Woolwich mudbanks
    <Mehmet>Pornhub would be easier<\Mehmet>
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,336
    Brilliant idea. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,404
    Weegie Addick said:
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    There are twin tunnels below the barrier, but they're pretty sensitive about who can use them, certainly not Joe Public :neutral:    
    I've tried but never quite managed the clearance level. 
    Wear your shoes on your knees next time
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    Think its a great idea. Would prefer to see one further down the river towards Thamesmead though, which is something that has been touted for years but not come to any fruition. 
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,711
    Weegie Addick said:
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    There are twin tunnels below the barrier, but they're pretty sensitive about who can use them, certainly not Joe Public :neutral:    
    I've tried but never quite managed the clearance level. 
    In my working life I reported to North side gate house to work on a telecom fault, but the security guard insisted that I report to the visitor centre on the South side. He said there was no one available to 'walk me through' so I had to drive to the South side where some jobsworth refused me access anyway. 

      
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,314
    edited March 2021
    Very good read that as usual from the Charlton champion.

    Last couple of paragraphs worth repeating for those who maybe live more locally and want it to happen-

    So what can you do to help? Click on the website – www.thamesbarrierbridge.com – to find out more and send us your comments, or write to your local council.

    The pandemic has shown us that we can rapidly change our behaviour to counter a virus; we can use the same energy and enterprise to counter the even more dangerous threat of climate change and, in doing so, make better lives for ourselves.



  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    Rothko said:
    great concept, but no way you’ll be allowed to build that bridge that close to a piece of critical national infrastructure 
    I know it's a great home ground, but the Valley isn't quite in that category yet. 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,209
    Weegie Addick said:
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    There are twin tunnels below the barrier, but they're pretty sensitive about who can use them, certainly not Joe Public :neutral:    
    I've tried but never quite managed the clearance level. 
    Yes, they are only foot tunnels though and provide maintenance access to each of the barrier piers. I have been lucky enough to do a private tour of the barrier.  The size of those piers just feels huge when you are standing on one.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,037
    That bridge looks like a great idea, £300m is a lot of money though

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,326
    killerandflash said:
    That bridge looks like a great idea, £300m is a lot of money though
    Just need Boris Johnson to back it. It will be built in no time.
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,428
    killerandflash said:
    That bridge looks like a great idea, £300m is a lot of money though
    Put a toll on it until it’s paid for.

  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,285
    killerandflash said:
    That bridge looks like a great idea, £300m is a lot of money though
    Probably be double that by the time they finish building it.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,622
    Think it looks great, but too close to the barrier which is due for renewal in around 10-12 years so I doubt they'll do it before then (there).

    I think the woolwich foot tunnel is nearer the airport than the barrier is (as is the ferry) and any bridge would be better built a little further down, but increased and easier ways to travel can only be a good thing.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    Lovely idea but won’t ever happen. £300 million plus for a pedestrian bridge from basically nowhere to nowhere. 
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,415
    paulbaconsarnie said:
    killerandflash said:
    That bridge looks like a great idea, £300m is a lot of money though
    Put a toll on it until it’s paid for.

    Then sell it to the French and hope nobody notices or remembers.
  • RickAddick
    RickAddick Posts: 1,199
    The principal issues of providing a suitable headroom for shipping east of London Bridge and the associated cost to enable this, forced TfL to abandon a proposed pedestrian and cyclist crossing at Rotherhithe, which would replace the current river bus shuttle:


    Source:  London Reconnections: London's First Highway Part 3 article:  https://www.londonreconnections.com/2021/londons-first-highway-part-3-evolution-of-river-passenger-transport-policy/

    Not sure the headroom would need to be as much as 90m stated, perhaps 20 - 30m would suffice.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,314
    edited March 2021
    "TfL is now planning for a new, more frequent and environmentally friendly ferry service, with custom piers to expedite turn around time."

    Sounds like some kind of pop up pier/ ferry concept. Interesting if that's the case. Anything to improve or enhance the Woolwich ferry would be welcome.

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