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Pretty sure the sales of them players does not cover the money he has had to put in over the last 9 months so would suggest he has at least reinvested.Cafc43v3r said:
I honestly believe he will but he hasn't shown it yet.roseandcrown said:Bit shocked at the panic and doom on here because a 2 players have chosen not to sign a contract to play in the league above and be nearer home.It’s not July yet we are obviously working on deals in the background and will have a squad in place.Thomas has already shown he will invest and nothing so far points to that not being the case.
Who have we paid a fee for? Stockley, Ronnie, DJ and Innis. What does that amount to? 1-1.5 million max?
Since he has been the owner we have sold Bonne, Phillips, Williams and Doughty. What does that amount to? 3 million plus?
That doesn't show, does it?
I repeat I belive he will, but there isn't much evidence yet.
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Oh ffs, are we really starting the is sandgaard the real deal because we’ve only signed one player this pre season so far??, let’s just keep the powder dry and see where we are in a few weeks.There will be a dossier next!!😂roseandcrown said:
Pretty sure the sales of them players does not cover the money he has had to put in over the last 9 months so would suggest he has at least reinvested.Cafc43v3r said:
I honestly believe he will but he hasn't shown it yet.roseandcrown said:Bit shocked at the panic and doom on here because a 2 players have chosen not to sign a contract to play in the league above and be nearer home.It’s not July yet we are obviously working on deals in the background and will have a squad in place.Thomas has already shown he will invest and nothing so far points to that not being the case.
Who have we paid a fee for? Stockley, Ronnie, DJ and Innis. What does that amount to? 1-1.5 million max?
Since he has been the owner we have sold Bonne, Phillips, Williams and Doughty. What does that amount to? 3 million plus?
That doesn't show, does it?
I repeat I belive he will, but there isn't much evidence yet.7 -
Listen we have to remember we can’t sign players because their contracts haven’t run out or they’re at the euros
our players can leave and sign for others cos it’s well just different .
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TBH I'm really p*ssed off at Bowyer signing Chuks.
Think we'll live to regret this unless TS's plans for new signings are VERY special.4 -
If you read, as opposed to just shit stir, @roseandcrown siad he has shown he is prepared to invest. I then said I firmly believe he will, but so far, he hasn't.paulfox said:
Oh ffs, are we really starting the is sandgaard the real deal because we’ve only signed one player this pre season so far??, let’s just keep the powder dry and see where we are in a few weeks.There will be a dossier next!!😂roseandcrown said:
Pretty sure the sales of them players does not cover the money he has had to put in over the last 9 months so would suggest he has at least reinvested.Cafc43v3r said:
I honestly believe he will but he hasn't shown it yet.roseandcrown said:Bit shocked at the panic and doom on here because a 2 players have chosen not to sign a contract to play in the league above and be nearer home.It’s not July yet we are obviously working on deals in the background and will have a squad in place.Thomas has already shown he will invest and nothing so far points to that not being the case.
Who have we paid a fee for? Stockley, Ronnie, DJ and Innis. What does that amount to? 1-1.5 million max?
Since he has been the owner we have sold Bonne, Phillips, Williams and Doughty. What does that amount to? 3 million plus?
That doesn't show, does it?
I repeat I belive he will, but there isn't much evidence yet.
Fuck knows how you came to the conclusion anyone has said what you said they said.3 -
I am personally very relaxed and find it a relief that hopefully, at least for the foreseeable future this will be the last time we will be scrambling over our players who believe they can do better and we will have our best players on proper long term contracts in the future. This may be the last summer we have to worry for a while about our best players leaving on a free, look at it that way.
Obviously it's not ideal, Chuks is a high end league 1 player and I've said before he can probably play at 'any' level just due to sheer size and power alone, but he was unreliable fitness wise and we can do better in that department. As for Amos a Charlton player that leaves us with my best wishes but I do believe we could get better or at least similar for less wages and probably younger.
Let's give our new owner a chance here and not hit the panic stations. Key note is what Adkins said upon joining and what we know about his character, he left Hull because he didn't think the backing was right and he took this job because he believed in the project sold to him. Let's be patient and just enjoy the rest of the euros and wait for it all to unfold as it's out of our hands anyway to be honest.
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Don't forget we can't get loans yet because the premier league clubs won't loan them, but they some how do to other clubs.oohaahmortimer said:Listen we have to remember we can’t sign players because their contracts haven’t run out or they’re at the euros
our players can leave and sign for others cos it’s well just different .2 -
Keep the faith2
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I don’t know anyone with experience of the club who thinks it’s sensible to run without a chief executive on the ground.Sage said:
In a transfer market with constant moving parts, where those moving parts are of a higher calibre of player and could fall in to place at any moment, we can’t really afford to wait on the approval of Sandgaard who is currently 7 hours behind in terms of time difference.Leeds_Addick said:
Interesting. I've seen a lot of people express surprise that he's doing it his own way but this is the first time I've seen someone say we'd be better off with a CEO in the UK.Sage said:Now we have lots of work to do, we were hoping to keep them but you now have to add a keeper and a striker on the list of what is required.
I am calm, but I do think it’s going to be a harder season than many would’ve anticipated going into this summer and this is not a reaction from the news today.
Sandgaard would do well to appoint a CEO who runs things on the ground whilst he’s in the US. I get it’s his way and all those reasons, but we need that figurehead in the UK.
Would be interested in understanding how it might change things
I’ve spoken to a few people and it’s a general view that we might be better off right now having someone in that role.
It’s not often club’s are run without a CEO, especially one where we haven’t really had one since Meire left, and even then wasn’t really a very good one at all.8 -
Fanny Fanackapan said:TBH I'm really p*ssed off at Bowyer signing Chuks.
Think we'll live to regret this unless TS's plans for new signings are VERY special.
It is regrettable that Chuks has gone but honestly not sure what we could have done other than throw irresponsible amounts of money at him, which given our very recent history isn't something I'd want us to do. If he'd gone to a league 1 club then we would indeed live to regret it.0 -
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Stop getting you knickers in a twist, it was tongue in cheek hence the laughter emoji thing!!. Our fans really have been scarred and seem to have lost there sense of humour. If I intend to shit stir as you say, there wouldn’t be any type smiley faces included.🙄Cafc43v3r said:
If you read, as opposed to just shit stir, @roseandcrown he has shown he is prepared to invest. I then said I firmly believe he will, but so far, he hasn't.paulfox said:
Oh ffs, are we really starting the is sandgaard the real deal because we’ve only signed one player this pre season so far??, let’s just keep the powder dry and see where we are in a few weeks.There will be a dossier next!!😂roseandcrown said:
Pretty sure the sales of them players does not cover the money he has had to put in over the last 9 months so would suggest he has at least reinvested.Cafc43v3r said:
I honestly believe he will but he hasn't shown it yet.roseandcrown said:Bit shocked at the panic and doom on here because a 2 players have chosen not to sign a contract to play in the league above and be nearer home.It’s not July yet we are obviously working on deals in the background and will have a squad in place.Thomas has already shown he will invest and nothing so far points to that not being the case.
Who have we paid a fee for? Stockley, Ronnie, DJ and Innis. What does that amount to? 1-1.5 million max?
Since he has been the owner we have sold Bonne, Phillips, Williams and Doughty. What does that amount to? 3 million plus?
That doesn't show, does it?
I repeat I belive he will, but there isn't much evidence yet.
Fuck knows how you came to the conclusion anyone has said what you said they said.2 -
Is that the sound of knives being sharpened?Airman Brown said:
I don’t know anyone with experience of the club who thinks it’s sensible to run without a chief executive on the ground.Sage said:
In a transfer market with constant moving parts, where those moving parts are of a higher calibre of player and could fall in to place at any moment, we can’t really afford to wait on the approval of Sandgaard who is currently 7 hours behind in terms of time difference.Leeds_Addick said:
Interesting. I've seen a lot of people express surprise that he's doing it his own way but this is the first time I've seen someone say we'd be better off with a CEO in the UK.Sage said:Now we have lots of work to do, we were hoping to keep them but you now have to add a keeper and a striker on the list of what is required.
I am calm, but I do think it’s going to be a harder season than many would’ve anticipated going into this summer and this is not a reaction from the news today.
Sandgaard would do well to appoint a CEO who runs things on the ground whilst he’s in the US. I get it’s his way and all those reasons, but we need that figurehead in the UK.
Would be interested in understanding how it might change things
I’ve spoken to a few people and it’s a general view that we might be better off right now having someone in that role.
It’s not often club’s are run without a CEO, especially one where we haven’t really had one since Meire left, and even then wasn’t really a very good one at all.0 -
We signed both in the championship though.........addick1956 said:
We had Bauer and Sarr in L1and both in Championship now so there are L1 CB about that can play higher.sirjohnhumphrey said:
Amos is a decent League 1 keeper, plenty better in my opinion.
Aneke was not Championship standard at all. I would bet he doesn’t get more than 5 goals for them given that he can’t play a whole game and Championship centre backs are a lot better than those in league 1.
I really can’t believe Sandgaard would do all he has already and then falter when he has the chance to make a real difference and put more blocks in place into realising the dream he has made so public.
Now we are clearer in terms of what we need to do. Two players have decided to go elsewhere, players at other clubs will do likewise. I think we will start to see some movement now.2 -
We are allowed to have opinions that don’t chime with Thomas’s view, presumably? Any organisation where no one can tell you who is in charge on a day-to-day basis is likely to struggle.Rothko said:
Is that the sound of knives being sharpened?Airman Brown said:
I don’t know anyone with experience of the club who thinks it’s sensible to run without a chief executive on the ground.Sage said:
In a transfer market with constant moving parts, where those moving parts are of a higher calibre of player and could fall in to place at any moment, we can’t really afford to wait on the approval of Sandgaard who is currently 7 hours behind in terms of time difference.Leeds_Addick said:
Interesting. I've seen a lot of people express surprise that he's doing it his own way but this is the first time I've seen someone say we'd be better off with a CEO in the UK.Sage said:Now we have lots of work to do, we were hoping to keep them but you now have to add a keeper and a striker on the list of what is required.
I am calm, but I do think it’s going to be a harder season than many would’ve anticipated going into this summer and this is not a reaction from the news today.
Sandgaard would do well to appoint a CEO who runs things on the ground whilst he’s in the US. I get it’s his way and all those reasons, but we need that figurehead in the UK.
Would be interested in understanding how it might change things
I’ve spoken to a few people and it’s a general view that we might be better off right now having someone in that role.
It’s not often club’s are run without a CEO, especially one where we haven’t really had one since Meire left, and even then wasn’t really a very good one at all.8 -
Airman Brown said:
I don’t know anyone with experience of the club who thinks it’s sensible to run without a chief executive on .Sage said:
In a transfer market with constant moving parts, where those moving parts are of a higher calibre of player and could fall in to place at any moment, we can’t really afford to wait on the approval of Sandgaard who is currently 7 hours behind in terms of time difference.Leeds_Addick said:
Interesting. I've seen a lot of people express surprise that he's doing it his own way but this is the first time I've seen someone say we'd be better off with a CEO in the UK.Sage said:Now we have lots of work to do, we were hoping to keep them but you now have to add a keeper and a striker on the list of what is required.
I am calm, but I do think it’s going to be a harder season than many would’ve anticipated going into this summer and this is not a reaction from the news today.
Sandgaard would do well to appoint a CEO who runs things on the ground whilst he’s in the US. I get it’s his way and all those reasons, but we need that figurehead in the UK.
Would be interested in understanding how it might change things
I’ve spoken to a few people and it’s a general view that we might be better off right now having someone in that role.
It’s not often club’s are run without a CEO, especially one where we haven’t really had one since Meire left, and even then wasn’t really a very good one at all.0 -
It’s all gonna end in tears but it’s starting in tears as well ….6
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Let's at least get Pratley back from Orient.4
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Maybe and i hope soricky_otto said:
I think judge him on after he has had a full pre-season, his family over here and with crowds in the ground (I honestly think that with the fans behind him he will get a bit of confidence up).cafcsinger said:
Would rather get rid of him tbh, looks to me a Danish Ajoseshine166 said:Time for Ronnie to step up and take his chances during pre season now.0 -
Probably cost too much now!!🤣grumpyaddick said:Let's at least get Pratley back from Orient.0 -
I think TS has more intelligence and integrity than RD. He may well find it more difficult than he thought and certainly more expensive but I’m sure he at least he measures success the same way we do, which is a big difference. He may get it wrong but he’ll likely learn from his mistakes, which RD never did.addick1956 said:
I think he is realising just how expensive owning a football club is to be honest. We could be heading for the same situation we had with RD if this window is toilet. You don't make up 11 bodies in 5 or 6 weeks and the season starts then not at the end of August.golfaddick said:I make it 11 players down on our squad from last season.....and they weren't good enough to get into the top 6. And 2 of the players out of the 12 left are only supposed to be here as back up (Watson & Pearce).
So, its not only replacing them but replacing them with better players.
I think TS might have bitten off more than he can chew.39 -
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Ronnie ronnie ronnie, he aint good enough ffs. All this nonsense about family here - we need people here who can play and he’s a rabbit in the headlights. Quote this message - i really hope i’m wrong but he’s a dud2
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Don't forget that TS is also building a fully professional women's team. Will take considerable funding.3
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I’m guessing things are that bit more difficult at the moment, there’s probably more brinkmanship at play than normal due to every club trying to get more money for there contracted players, which is possibly why things are slow on incomings. I’d imagine TS is playing the game.Airman Brown said:
I think TS has more intelligence and integrity than RD. He may well find it more difficult than he thought and certainly more expensive but I’m sure he at least he measures success the same way we do, which is a big difference. He may get it wrong but he’ll likely learn from his mistakes, which RD never did.addick1956 said:
I think he is realising just how expensive owning a football club is to be honest. We could be heading for the same situation we had with RD if this window is toilet. You don't make up 11 bodies in 5 or 6 weeks and the season starts then not at the end of August.golfaddick said:I make it 11 players down on our squad from last season.....and they weren't good enough to get into the top 6. And 2 of the players out of the 12 left are only supposed to be here as back up (Watson & Pearce).
So, its not only replacing them but replacing them with better players.
I think TS might have bitten off more than he can chew.0 -
Too early to panic about the squad, I agree, but equally daft for people to argue that losing a 16-goal striker isn’t a serious blow.paulfox said:
I’m guessing things are that bit more difficult at the moment, there’s probably more brinkmanship at play than normal due to every club trying to get more money for there contracted players, which is possibly why things are slow on incomings. I’d imagine TS is playing the game.Airman Brown said:
I think TS has more intelligence and integrity than RD. He may well find it more difficult than he thought and certainly more expensive but I’m sure he at least he measures success the same way we do, which is a big difference. He may get it wrong but he’ll likely learn from his mistakes, which RD never did.addick1956 said:
I think he is realising just how expensive owning a football club is to be honest. We could be heading for the same situation we had with RD if this window is toilet. You don't make up 11 bodies in 5 or 6 weeks and the season starts then not at the end of August.golfaddick said:I make it 11 players down on our squad from last season.....and they weren't good enough to get into the top 6. And 2 of the players out of the 12 left are only supposed to be here as back up (Watson & Pearce).
So, its not only replacing them but replacing them with better players.
I think TS might have bitten off more than he can chew.28 -
Bloody hell, don’t try and sugar coat things will you?🤣addick1956 said:
True . With an owner no better of than TS . It will take that sort of money to get out of this league and stay out. We are a small club playing in a super ground owned by someone else.Cafc43v3r said:
We signed both in the championship though.........addick1956 said:
We had Bauer and Sarr in L1and both in Championship now so there are L1 CB about that can play higher.sirjohnhumphrey said:
Amos is a decent League 1 keeper, plenty better in my opinion.
Aneke was not Championship standard at all. I would bet he doesn’t get more than 5 goals for them given that he can’t play a whole game and Championship centre backs are a lot better than those in league 1.
I really can’t believe Sandgaard would do all he has already and then falter when he has the chance to make a real difference and put more blocks in place into realising the dream he has made so public.
Now we are clearer in terms of what we need to do. Two players have decided to go elsewhere, players at other clubs will do likewise. I think we will start to see some movement now.
It is not a good place to be really IMHO.1 -
We are not “a small club” in this division. That would be Accrington, Burton, Cambridge, Cheltenham, Crewe, Fleetwood, Lincoln, Morecambe, Wimbledon and Wycombe.addick1956 said:
True . With an owner no better of than TS . It will take that sort of money to get out of this league and stay out. We are a small club playing in a super ground owned by someone else.Cafc43v3r said:
We signed both in the championship though.........addick1956 said:
We had Bauer and Sarr in L1and both in Championship now so there are L1 CB about that can play higher.sirjohnhumphrey said:
Amos is a decent League 1 keeper, plenty better in my opinion.
Aneke was not Championship standard at all. I would bet he doesn’t get more than 5 goals for them given that he can’t play a whole game and Championship centre backs are a lot better than those in league 1.
I really can’t believe Sandgaard would do all he has already and then falter when he has the chance to make a real difference and put more blocks in place into realising the dream he has made so public.
Now we are clearer in terms of what we need to do. Two players have decided to go elsewhere, players at other clubs will do likewise. I think we will start to see some movement now.
It is not a good place to be really IMHO.10 -
This Tweet from this afternoon couldn't have been timed any worse really
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I’m not going to lie, I’ve never particularly enjoyed watching Aneke play, just not my type of player. Obviously he had my support when he played in the Charlton shirt, but I’m edging my bets in the hope we can replace the 16 goals, with someone I enjoy watching more. Just a personnel opinion I’m not insisting on everyone agreeing with. I’ve loved strikers who have scored a lot less regularly over the years!!🤣Airman Brown said:
Too early to panic about the squad, I agree, but equally daft for people to argue that losing a 16-goal striker isn’t a serious blow.paulfox said:
I’m guessing things are that bit more difficult at the moment, there’s probably more brinkmanship at play than normal due to every club trying to get more money for there contracted players, which is possibly why things are slow on incomings. I’d imagine TS is playing the game.Airman Brown said:
I think TS has more intelligence and integrity than RD. He may well find it more difficult than he thought and certainly more expensive but I’m sure he at least he measures success the same way we do, which is a big difference. He may get it wrong but he’ll likely learn from his mistakes, which RD never did.addick1956 said:
I think he is realising just how expensive owning a football club is to be honest. We could be heading for the same situation we had with RD if this window is toilet. You don't make up 11 bodies in 5 or 6 weeks and the season starts then not at the end of August.golfaddick said:I make it 11 players down on our squad from last season.....and they weren't good enough to get into the top 6. And 2 of the players out of the 12 left are only supposed to be here as back up (Watson & Pearce).
So, its not only replacing them but replacing them with better players.
I think TS might have bitten off more than he can chew.1 -
I’m sure we will sign players and we can argue over their merits when we do. It’s silly to make judgements on this in June.addick1956 said:
I am not doubting Thomas's integrity. However Thomas lodged a sum of money to run us for 2 years . This year will be more expensive than last and we are not attracting any players , let alone better ones.Airman Brown said:
I think TS has more intelligence and integrity than RD. He may well find it more difficult than he thought and certainly more expensive but I’m sure he at least he measures success the same way we do, which is a big difference. He may get it wrong but he’ll likely learn from his mistakes, which RD never did.addick1956 said:
I think he is realising just how expensive owning a football club is to be honest. We could be heading for the same situation we had with RD if this window is toilet. You don't make up 11 bodies in 5 or 6 weeks and the season starts then not at the end of August.golfaddick said:I make it 11 players down on our squad from last season.....and they weren't good enough to get into the top 6. And 2 of the players out of the 12 left are only supposed to be here as back up (Watson & Pearce).
So, its not only replacing them but replacing them with better players.
I think TS might have bitten off more than he can chew.
What RD learned was he didn't like the cost and I can see that possibly being the case with TS.
This year - unlike last - there will be gate receipts (hopefully!) and there have also been transfer receipts, so it’s not as simple as you suggest.
I suspect you may have a point with your last paragraph because one thing that is common to all new owners is that they soon learn it’s not as easy as they thought. However, I think TS is more likely to find practical ways to overcome the problems than RD or the spivs.11 -
You’ve posted 4 times on this page alone likening Sandgaard to Duchatelet. Maybe take a breather.addick1956 said:
I am not doubting Thomas's integrity. However Thomas lodged a sum of money to run us for 2 years . This year will be more expensive than last and we are not attracting any players , let alone better ones.Airman Brown said:
I think TS has more intelligence and integrity than RD. He may well find it more difficult than he thought and certainly more expensive but I’m sure he at least he measures success the same way we do, which is a big difference. He may get it wrong but he’ll likely learn from his mistakes, which RD never did.addick1956 said:
I think he is realising just how expensive owning a football club is to be honest. We could be heading for the same situation we had with RD if this window is toilet. You don't make up 11 bodies in 5 or 6 weeks and the season starts then not at the end of August.golfaddick said:I make it 11 players down on our squad from last season.....and they weren't good enough to get into the top 6. And 2 of the players out of the 12 left are only supposed to be here as back up (Watson & Pearce).
So, its not only replacing them but replacing them with better players.
I think TS might have bitten off more than he can chew.
What RD learned was he didn't like the cost and I can see that possibly being the case with TS.6
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