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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    edited June 2021
    Money has to put a club at an advantage, but Sunderland are a great example that it isn't everything. They won't be getting relegated anytime soon though. It is a shortcut. I think the smaller clubs can build and get momentum but when they lose it, they have to rebuild from a lower point. Where a richer club can change things for the better far more quickly. It is never a given though.
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    Laddick01 said:
    LTKapal said:
    An actual rumour, I was told we've enquired about regan slater, was at hull last season so probably looking to move higher but we'll see. 
    Problem is he’s done really well at Hull. They’ll want him back and that would make a lot of sense. Another season in L1 probably wouldn’t be that beneficial.

    I’d like him as a signing, but I think we will have more success picking up 1st year Loanees rather than ones with experience at this level sadly.

    Completely agree and I expect Hull to take him back or at least another champ club to come in for him but, here's to hoping. 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,316
    The reason Nigel Adkins wasn't having a holiday this summer was he was working on the squad for next season to emulate Hull City.

    Thomas Sandgaard stated we will blow League 1 out of the water.

    We will bring in quality but I'm expecting some to be underwhelmed at first.

    I hope we are more advanced in transfer business than when we kicked off at Sunderland a few seasons ago and lost 2-1 to a late goal after Grant and Taylor looked good in Tandem. We should be as we have a better team including the owner preparing our squad.


    This. What have we been doing?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,316
    Rothko said:
    Wigan’s rebuild is also a lot bigger then ours 
    And much much better thus far
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Wigan fans reckon they've got Scott Fraser.
    Another one bites the dust. 

    Jordan Cousins, Max Power and Scott Fraser in midfield for Wigan - can’t see many team’s bettering that (On paper at least).
    I agree but there are dozens of posts on this very thread suggesting outrage at the mear mention we would be intrested in Cousins or Power.

    "could do better" was often quoted.  Can we, is the question. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,021
    Wigan fans reckon they've got Scott Fraser.
    Another one bites the dust. 

    Jordan Cousins, Max Power and Scott Fraser in midfield for Wigan - can’t see many team’s bettering that (On paper at least).
    Wigan are looking like they will be strong contenders.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,726
    Wigan are 18/1 to win the title btw...
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    LTKapal said:
    An actual rumour, I was told we've enquired about regan slater, was at hull last season so probably looking to move higher but we'll see. 
    Think Cawley already said this wasn’t a goer when he was linked a few days ago in the press.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,021
    Wigan are 18/1 to win the title btw...
    Who have they got to score goals?
  • The Fraser to Wigan rumour originated from a post Fraser made where he was close to Wigan (I can’t remember where specifically). But Wigan fans jumped on it asking him if he was signing for them, he then removed the post.

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    Gilbey won player of the season over Scott Fraser when he was there. Granted Fraser was excellent when they beat us at the Valley, less so when we beat them at theirs.
    Didn’t they sign Fraser as a Gilbey replacement?
    You are probably right on that. I'm not sure Fraser is better than Gilbey though, although I would not have been upset if we signed him. There are still good players we can potentially sign, but haven't yet.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    edited June 2021
    Thought the days of us needing to completely rebuild our squad from season to season was over? 

    Suppose the one benefit of us having such a poor squad is that we aren't worried about selling anyone. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2021
    Rothko said:
    Wigan’s rebuild is also a lot bigger then ours 
    Is it?  They had 6 contracted players at the end of the season, we had 9.  Half of which were often described as "dog shit" on a regular basis on here last season.

    They offered 9 players new contracts and I think most of them have resigned.  They have signed 5 players, not including Amos. 

    We have 11 players including a keeper that has never played a league game, a center back who averages about a dozen games a season and Pearce and Watson who have been told they won't be playing.

    Of course there is plenty of time and I am confident we will get where we need to be but don't under estimate the size of the job.  It's one of the reasons I want most of the out of contract players resigned. 
  • I like the prospect of Gregory signing. Good CF proven in L1. Also has the advantage that as he's been away from the sewage farm for some while, he won't need fumigation on arrival.
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    I’d class him as a small upgrade on Amos so a good signing for us and a few years younger.

    But that gets us back to where we were, what we need next is players to come in and improve us.

    Hopefully a BIG week ahead 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,056
    Wigan are 18/1 to win the title btw...
    Who have they got to score goals?
    Maybe we could interest them in Ronnie Schwartz?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,813
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Wigan’s rebuild is also a lot bigger then ours 
    Is it?  They had 6 contracted players at the end of the season, we had 9.  Half of which were often described as "dog shit" on a regular basis on here last season.

    They offered 9 players new contracts and I think most of them have resigned.  They have signed 5 players, not including Amos. 

    We have 11 players including a keeper that has never played a league game, a center back who averages about a dozen games a season and Pearce and Watson who have been told they won't be playing.

    Of course there is plenty of time and I am confident we will get where we need to be but don't under estimate the size of the job.  It's one of the reasons I want most of the out of contract players resigned. 
    They were under soft embargo for all of last season, had to sell any experience they had in January to pay the bills, and needed kids and a bit of luck to stay up. The rebuild is significant to get back firstly to a stable place, and then go for promotion, the 11 they’ve resigned might be world beaters, I suspect their not
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    LTKapal said:
    An actual rumour, I was told we've enquired about regan slater, was at hull last season so probably looking to move higher but we'll see. 
    A few days ago Cawley didn’t believe he was a target.


  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    Gilbey won player of the season over Scott Fraser when he was there. Granted Fraser was excellent when they beat us at the Valley, less so when we beat them at theirs.
    He’d have had to go some to win POTY at a club he didn’t play for.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    Gilbey won player of the season over Scott Fraser when he was there. Granted Fraser was excellent when they beat us at the Valley, less so when we beat them at theirs.
    Didn’t they sign Fraser as a Gilbey replacement?
    You are probably right on that. I'm not sure Fraser is better than Gilbey though, although I would not have been upset if we signed him. There are still good players we can potentially sign, but haven't yet.
    Already acknowledged that.

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    How are people believing that Lee Gregory is coming to us?

    Didn't he only leave the Spanners to move north two years ago ? 
  • Tom1982
    Tom1982 Posts: 15
    What formation does Adkins favour? Some obvious weaknesses in the squad but does he tend to go with one up top or is it a 3???
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Tom1982 said:
    What formation does Adkins favour? Some obvious weaknesses in the squad but does he tend to go with one up top or is it a 3???
    I watched a bit of Hull highlights on YouTube after he became our manager and he certainly favoured a 4-2-3-1 with 2 very attacking wingers, often cutting in. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,510
    Liam Millar on the way to FC Basel after a second bud accepted. We improve another Premiershit player . I got the impression  he was never coming back.

    Leave no stone unturned.  Which is where we will probably end up looking.
    He was never coming back because Liverpool said if goes out on loan it will be a championship side … another one that spilt fans … very frustrating player as to be said 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Liam Millar on the way to FC Basel after a second bud accepted. We improve another Premiershit player . I got the impression  he was never coming back.

    Leave no stone unturned.  Which is where we will probably end up looking.
    I don’t understand what your point is?

    Liverpool loan us a player that was never going to break through there, we give him experience and they sell him. Isn’t this what happens in football?

    we improved 

    the young left back from Chelsea that went to Bristol city
    bielik (spelling)
    cullen 
    millar
    famewo

    we left no stone unturned when we found Gallagher. Nobody had heard of him, one year later he was on loan in the premiership 

    its why premiership team loan is youngsters and it’s why our squad will be boosted with a couple more this season. We have a very good track record on developing and unearthing I know premiership youngsters. I have no issue with this continuing 
  • Not convinced with Gregory. Granted he'll score goals at league one level but i see him as too similar to Stockley. Both 6ft 2 and both the 'leading the line' centre forward type. I think we need to go for someone young and pacy to play alongside Stockley.

    Unless we're going to play like the old John Beck Cambridge sides, there's surely no room for both.
  • Liam Millar on the way to FC Basel after a second bud accepted. We improve another Premiershit player . I got the impression  he was never coming back.

    Leave no stone unturned.  Which is where we will probably end up looking.
    I don’t understand what your point is?

    Liverpool loan us a player that was never going to break through there, we give him experience and they sell him. Isn’t this what happens in football?

    we improved 

    the young left back from Chelsea that went to Bristol city
    bielik (spelling)
    cullen 
    millar
    famewo

    we left no stone unturned when we found Gallagher. Nobody had heard of him, one year later he was on loan in the premiership 

    its why premiership team loan is youngsters and it’s why our squad will be boosted with a couple more this season. We have a very good track record on developing and unearthing I know premiership youngsters. I have no issue with this continuing 
    Much the same as when we loaned Scott Parker to Norwich. He wasn't really doing much, went and got some experience, came back and grabbed his chance. Same story when we loaned Grant to Crawley.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

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