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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Wigan have signed Wyke
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,152
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    I think they're assembling a squad that will be around the playoffs at least. But the signings don't scream 'running away with the league.' They're getting them done early, which is obviously good for them. I think all things being equal, and presuming that the teams aiming for the top 2 positions end up bringing in players of comparable quality, it will come down to which manager can the best tune out of his squad (which sounds obvious.) Of course, like last year, you might get a contender or two that didn't make any particularly big-name signings, but were very well drilled, like Blackpool and Lincoln.
  • Let’s face it - Thomas has come to England because he’s got tickets for the Euros semi-final, not to splash the cash 
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,670
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    I think they're assembling a squad that will be around the playoffs at least. But the signings don't scream 'running away with the league.' They're getting them done early, which is obviously good for them. I think all things being equal, and presuming that the teams aiming for the top 2 positions end up bringing in players of comparable quality, it will come down to which manager can the best tune out of his squad (which sounds obvious.) Of course, like last year, you might get a contender or two that didn't make any particularly big-name signings, but were very well drilled, like Blackpool and Lincoln.
    Yes, I don't think they've signed anyone I'd want us to bring in.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    I think they're assembling a squad that will be around the playoffs at least. But the signings don't scream 'running away with the league.' They're getting them done early, which is obviously good for them. I think all things being equal, and presuming that the teams aiming for the top 2 positions end up bringing in players of comparable quality, it will come down to which manager can the best tune out of his squad (which sounds obvious.) Of course, like last year, you might get a contender or two that didn't make any particularly big-name signings, but were very well drilled, like Blackpool and Lincoln.
    Yes, I don't think they've signed anyone I'd want us to bring in.
    exactly Stockley over Wyke all day long
  • Rothko said:
    Wigan finished 20th last season, they need to rebuild on a massive scale, and are just throwing money at a problem. 

    We've recruited well so far, and will continue too. 
    Just googled them, owned by some guys from Bahrain. This was one of the comments when they took over........

    "I selected Wigan Athletic because of its great history, wide fanbase and excellent infrastructure".

    Did they mean to buy the rugby league team?

    Surely any research would tell them that throwing money at a poorly supported club isn't going to work long term?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,610
    Let’s face it - Thomas has come to England because he’s got tickets for the Euros semi-final, not to splash the cash 
     Very likely.  And after Casper Schmeichel's remark about has football ever been home one can go off an entire nation very quickly 😳 .
    To be fair I thought that was a great response from Kasper

    Our press are twats at times
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,519
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    Are they you saying Wyke a better signing then Stockley ?

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  • Charlton43
    Charlton43 Posts: 109
    Wigan are building a proper strong side. They’re gonna be top 6 minimum
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,415
    Let’s face it - Thomas has come to England because he’s got tickets for the Euros semi-final, not to splash the cash 
     Very likely.  And after Casper Schmeichel's remark about has football ever been home one can go off an entire nation very quickly 😳 .
    To be fair I thought that was a great response from Kasper

    Our press are twats at times
    Completely agree.

    Might need to toughen up if you 'might go off an entire nation' for a humorous and factually correct response to a rubbish question.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,694
    edited July 2021
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    I think they're assembling a squad that will be around the playoffs at least. But the signings don't scream 'running away with the league.' They're getting them done early, which is obviously good for them. I think all things being equal, and presuming that the teams aiming for the top 2 positions end up bringing in players of comparable quality, it will come down to which manager can the best tune out of his squad (which sounds obvious.) Of course, like last year, you might get a contender or two that didn't make any particularly big-name signings, but were very well drilled, like Blackpool and Lincoln.
    Yes, I don't think they've signed anyone I'd want us to bring in.
    Funny, because almost everyone on here wanted Jordan Cousins back.

    For the record I didnt.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    Are they you saying Wyke a better signing then Stockley ?
    Nope. I’m saying they’re signing a lot of players, which is a big turnaround from the mess they were in last season.

    Why are people so touchy on here? Laughable. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,694
    Valley11 said:
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    Are they you saying Wyke a better signing then Stockley ?
    Nope. I’m saying they’re signing a lot of players, which is a big turnaround from the mess they were in last season.

    Why are people so touchy on here? Laughable. 
    Some people don't like to hear the truth.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,717
    Wigan are building a proper strong side. They’re gonna be top 6 minimum
    Being good on paper doesnt mean you will be a good team.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,215
    It's weird, if we'd signed Wyke there would be plenty on here unhappy asking why we're signing Sunderland's cast-offs. Wigan do it though and they're suddenly 1970s Brazil and we're quaking in our boots.
  • Cafc_lifer
    Cafc_lifer Posts: 74
    No signings today then? What about any this week? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,937
    The Wigan signings certainly show a determination to bring in players proven at the larger clubs at this level, as can be seen from where they've come from and their age

    Wyke, Power - Sunderland
    Whatmough, Naylor - Pompey
    Edwards - Ipswich
    Amos - us
    Cousins - Stoke

    No punts on players from smaller clubs or L2, or raw youngsters either
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Valley11 said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Wigan have signed Wyke
    They are going for it
    I think they're assembling a squad that will be around the playoffs at least. But the signings don't scream 'running away with the league.' They're getting them done early, which is obviously good for them. I think all things being equal, and presuming that the teams aiming for the top 2 positions end up bringing in players of comparable quality, it will come down to which manager can the best tune out of his squad (which sounds obvious.) Of course, like last year, you might get a contender or two that didn't make any particularly big-name signings, but were very well drilled, like Blackpool and Lincoln.
    Yes, I don't think they've signed anyone I'd want us to bring in.
    Funny, because almost everyone on here wanted Jordan Cousins back.

    For the record I didnt.
    And in any case, we signed George Dobson instead.



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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Wigan are building a proper strong side. They’re gonna be top 6 minimum
    They might be. 

    Depends on how well the manager can knit the new team together after their massive clear out of players and incoming players.
    Even though they've now signed Wyke, you can bet they've not yet finished their squad rebuilding.

    But just because they've already signed a shed load of incoming players is no guarantee of success either.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,610
    edited July 2021
    Let’s face it - Thomas has come to England because he’s got tickets for the Euros semi-final, not to splash the cash 
     Very likely.  And after Casper Schmeichel's remark about has football ever been home one can go off an entire nation very quickly 😳 .
    To be fair I thought that was a great response from Kasper

    Our press are twats at times
     I thought it was an insulting to our
    country by a nation that won this trophy having failed to qualify so he should have kept quite. 

    Reminds me of when Andy Murray reminded the press he wasn't, British but Scottish.  A completely unnecessary remark from a pompous prig who then represented
    'Great Britain ' in the Olympics.  Very ethical. 
    He got asked a stupid question and actually responded in the right way

    The fans treat the whole "Its coming home" as a bit of a joke... The press use it to insult and wind up the opposition.

    Kasper was spot on, how can the Euros be coming home, we have never won it

    Did you even listen to the actual question Kasper got asked - The press asked him how it would feel to stop "It from coming home" - After dealing with the stupidity, he rightfully responded that he's more interested in winning it for Denmark (he doesnt even care about stopping England), and giving THEM the lift that they no doubt need themselves
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,280
    Rothko said:
    Wigan finished 20th last season, they need to rebuild on a massive scale, and are just throwing money at a problem. 

    We've recruited well so far, and will continue too. 
    Just googled them, owned by some guys from Bahrain. This was one of the comments when they took over........

    "I selected Wigan Athletic because of its great history, wide fanbase and excellent infrastructure".

    Did they mean to buy the rugby league team?

    Surely any research would tell them that throwing money at a poorly supported club isn't going to work long term?
    Maybe they're just determined to get out of this poxy league as soon as possible, get into the Championship & see where they go from there. They may be paying over the top but sometimes that's what you have to do in the short term to get the players you want. Maybe they're going to blow through this league but just haven't told anyone yet. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,694
    Oggy Red said:
    Wigan are building a proper strong side. They’re gonna be top 6 minimum
    They might be. 

    Depends on how well the manager can knit the new team together after their massive clear out of players and incoming players.
    Even though they've now signed Wyke, you can bet they've not yet finished their squad rebuilding.

    But just because they've already signed a shed load of incoming players is no guarantee of success either.

    You could say the exact same thing about us.....only we haven't really signed enough players to even be able to "knit" a team yet.

    So, in those stakes, Wigan are ahead of us.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    Rumours Wyke is on close to 10k p/w. If so that's ludicrous for a player of his quality. Scored a fair few last season but didn't think much whenever I saw him. Chucking money at the league doesn't often work at this level. Hopefully England get the win tonight and a few will sign prior to the friendly against the scum Saturday. 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,424
    ButtleJR said:
    Rumours Wyke is on close to 10k p/w. If so that's ludicrous for a player of his quality. Scored a fair few last season but didn't think much whenever I saw him. Chucking money at the league doesn't often work at this level. Hopefully England get the win tonight and a few will sign prior to the friendly against the scum Saturday. 
    For that money I’d want a player that I was confident could step up to the championship.

    From what I’ve seen of Wyke he’s a good league one finisher at best.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Even though things seem slow on the transfer front, it appears we've signed some 'hungry' players.

    Stockley was pretty desperate to quit Preston, where his career had stagnated.
    And we were all impressed with his aerial prowess and attitude on loan. If he'd been here all season he'd no doubt have been a strong contender for POTY.

    Same with Dobson, unsettled and not part of the manager's plans, came back south on loan to relegation certainties Wimbledon 2nd half of last season - and was a key member of a revitalised team which battled their way to safety.

    His MoM performance in the 2-2 draw at Plough Lane against us evidently impressed Adkins.
    Many Wimbledon fans reckoned he should have been the POTY. And he'd been POTY at Walsall, where he was captain of the side at only 21. 

    The new keeper, McGillivray, was POTY at Pompey last season.
    Adkins has made a point of mentioning his strong character.

    Maybe we've passed up on some talented players because Adkins believes they don't have the right character, attitude or fit for the squad he's building?

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,384
    Jonniesta said:
    There will be nothing heroic about failure this year. We had a full year to prep for it, and everything is in place. Promotion should be expected. As it stands, the squad is not good enough for that, so we need more players. I'm confident TS/SG/NA know what they're doing... we're still in the 'cut-price' and free market now to see how we can fill some gaps, then we move on to the full-price market to get those 2 or 3 we really want, then the loan market to shore up the remaining gaps. We have no reason not to trust the current set-up other than years of misuse by previous owners...of course, that's quite a big reason. In TS and NA we trust. 
    WADR I don’t see how promotion can be ‘expected’ in this league. Two many similar sized clubs with similar backing/spending power and similar levels of ambition. 
    It’s always likely to be a slog. 
    Fingers crossed we can make the signings that’ll at least give us a real fighting chance. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,259
    The Wigan signings certainly show a determination to bring in players proven at the larger clubs at this level, as can be seen from where they've come from and their age

    Wyke, Power - Sunderland
    Whatmough, Naylor - Pompey
    Edwards - Ipswich
    Amos - us
    Cousins - Stoke

    No punts on players from smaller clubs or L2, or raw youngsters either
    I look at that list and it’s made up of players from clubs in this division that have failed for 2/3 years to get out of it (bar Cousins).  There’s a reason they didn’t achieve promotion, and their ability has a large part to play in it.  

    I would say Wigan are pursuing a route I would hate us to go down.  Spending big money on players that have established themselves as being unable to get out of the division 

    As a collective, they may all come together and it works, but there’s no guarantee.  I’m pleased none of those have joined us 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Oggy Red said:
    Wigan are building a proper strong side. They’re gonna be top 6 minimum
    They might be. 

    Depends on how well the manager can knit the new team together after their massive clear out of players and incoming players.
    Even though they've now signed Wyke, you can bet they've not yet finished their squad rebuilding.

    But just because they've already signed a shed load of incoming players is no guarantee of success either.

    You could say the exact same thing about us.....only we haven't really signed enough players to even be able to "knit" a team yet.

    So, in those stakes, Wigan are ahead of us.

    It's not that bad, Golfie.

    Things are a bit slow on the transfer front, we all agree.
    But we've nevertheless already got a nucleus of good players, with ability and the right character.

    Like Curbs and Chris Powell, our Mr Adkins has a reputation for building squads with the right character in the dressing room and on the park.
    And it's also why players like Pearce and Watson have been retained.


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