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Wigan have sold a U18 wonder kid to Leeds.0
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if only we had a contact at the Spurs academyAndyG said:Spurs letting Troy Parrot go out on loan again4 -
Yup that's a weird one isnt it. Sell a highly rated young player and buy older players from league one and pay them fortunes. Not sure they have a 5 year plan lolHenry Irving said:Wigan have sold a U18 wonder kid to Leeds.2 -
Forgive me for only reading yesterday's stuff this evening.AndyG said:
I thought everyone had decided to leave all this as yesterdays news mate.ElfsborgAddick said:
Okay, the written word can be taken in different ways, a bit like sex. However, I'm with @golfaddick on this one.AndyG said:
Golfie I'm honestly not having a go mate I just wanted to point out that maybe you are judging TS a bit early on this situation. You are getting stressy about people questioning you on your comments but you think it totally acceptable to question the current owners integrity and basically allude to him being a liar ! and class him along with past wronguns ?golfaddick said:
Mods, can you please ask this poster to amend or delete this post.KBslittlesis said:
That’s fine & dandy until he goes & says things like ‘I don’t see much difference between TS & Douchbag’.robinofottershaw said:
I am with you Muttley. I DO appreciate getting recruitment right and securing the right players in a competitive market is not easy. As supporters we owe a lot to TS and it's a real shame for him that the economic impacts of COVID have reduced club turnover when he wants to invest in the playing side of the club. So I will be patient and hope they can assemble a strong enough squad to have a good stab at promotion this season.MuttleyCAFC said:
It is a good point and Cawley has said deals are being worked on. I do understand Golfie's point too. He isn't attacking Thomas, but waiting to see what happens to the recruitment before he is happy with it and he feels we should be further down the track than we are given what we were told.Leeds_Addick said:
I think that's an important point.shine166 said:
His last comment sums it up, its as if people think they are more clued up than those running the club.CharltontillidieCOYR said:Latest from Cawley nothing sounds close or as people have said he poss isnt being updated much
It's frustrating for us that there hasn't been more movement but it'll be even more frustrating for the recruitment team, TS and Adkins as not only do they have to actually work on these deals but if they don't get it right it makes their job for the coming season harder too.
People would do well to remember that they're as desperate for success as we are.
My view is, I am expecting good recruitment and I appreciate it might be difficult and delayed due to a variety of reasons, but I will judge it when I see it in its totality.
In saying that I don't see why a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon to give Golfie such a hard time. He simply adopts the policy of saying "Show me" and that actions speak louder than words. I don't think that makes him the devil incarnate does it?
Then I just want to rip his head off & shit down his neck!
Sorry, but I’m a tad wound up today & he ain’t helping 😫😫😫😫
It is very abusive & not in the spirit of this board.
Someone on here the other day mentioned the word "mental" and the thread went into overdrive calling him out on it.
I dont think wanting to rip my head off & shit down my neck is very pleasant.
I think I will take myself off here & wont add to this thread until posters can be civil to one another.
On this occasion mate you may want a rethink
Golfie is happy today he said so himself earlier. New Dawn's all around let's all move on with the current positivity
Anyway, can @golfaddick give us another 'meeting of women' tale?......please.0 -
Honestly had forgotten he was at Ipswich second half of the season. Don't think he'd be someone that would come in without a guarantee that he'd be a starterI-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:0 -
Don’t encourage him Elfie😲ElfsborgAddick said:
Forgive me for only reading yesterday's stuff this evening.AndyG said:
I thought everyone had decided to leave all this as yesterdays news mate.ElfsborgAddick said:
Okay, the written word can be taken in different ways, a bit like sex. However, I'm with @golfaddick on this one.AndyG said:
Golfie I'm honestly not having a go mate I just wanted to point out that maybe you are judging TS a bit early on this situation. You are getting stressy about people questioning you on your comments but you think it totally acceptable to question the current owners integrity and basically allude to him being a liar ! and class him along with past wronguns ?golfaddick said:
Mods, can you please ask this poster to amend or delete this post.KBslittlesis said:
That’s fine & dandy until he goes & says things like ‘I don’t see much difference between TS & Douchbag’.robinofottershaw said:
I am with you Muttley. I DO appreciate getting recruitment right and securing the right players in a competitive market is not easy. As supporters we owe a lot to TS and it's a real shame for him that the economic impacts of COVID have reduced club turnover when he wants to invest in the playing side of the club. So I will be patient and hope they can assemble a strong enough squad to have a good stab at promotion this season.MuttleyCAFC said:
It is a good point and Cawley has said deals are being worked on. I do understand Golfie's point too. He isn't attacking Thomas, but waiting to see what happens to the recruitment before he is happy with it and he feels we should be further down the track than we are given what we were told.Leeds_Addick said:
I think that's an important point.shine166 said:
His last comment sums it up, its as if people think they are more clued up than those running the club.CharltontillidieCOYR said:Latest from Cawley nothing sounds close or as people have said he poss isnt being updated much
It's frustrating for us that there hasn't been more movement but it'll be even more frustrating for the recruitment team, TS and Adkins as not only do they have to actually work on these deals but if they don't get it right it makes their job for the coming season harder too.
People would do well to remember that they're as desperate for success as we are.
My view is, I am expecting good recruitment and I appreciate it might be difficult and delayed due to a variety of reasons, but I will judge it when I see it in its totality.
In saying that I don't see why a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon to give Golfie such a hard time. He simply adopts the policy of saying "Show me" and that actions speak louder than words. I don't think that makes him the devil incarnate does it?
Then I just want to rip his head off & shit down his neck!
Sorry, but I’m a tad wound up today & he ain’t helping 😫😫😫😫
It is very abusive & not in the spirit of this board.
Someone on here the other day mentioned the word "mental" and the thread went into overdrive calling him out on it.
I dont think wanting to rip my head off & shit down my neck is very pleasant.
I think I will take myself off here & wont add to this thread until posters can be civil to one another.
On this occasion mate you may want a rethink
Golfie is happy today he said so himself earlier. New Dawn's all around let's all move on with the current positivity
Anyway, can @golfaddick give us another 'meeting of women' tale?......please.0 -
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.1 -
Taylor had a full preseason and the team was built around him spearheading our forward line. He also had Karlan Grant beside him who played more unselfishly than in previous seasons and later Josh Parker who was completely unselfish (because he knew he couldn't score)Southbank said:
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.2 -
Washington is not selfish. I would love to believe Stockley can score 25 goals.Dazzler21 said:
Taylor had a full preseason and the team was built around him spearheading our forward line. He also had Karlan Grant beside him who played more unselfishly than in previous seasons and later Josh Parker who was completely unselfish (because he knew he couldn't score)Southbank said:
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.
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Stockley is a decent striker at this level based on half a season, but no he's not on the level of Taylor, who was one of the top scorers in the league in our promotion season.
Some people moan that we have rose tinted specs looking at his record, but actually I'd argue that those saying he was nothing special are too blinded by the hatred of him leaving in a acrimonious circumstances. He was a talismanic striker that fired us to the Championship, and I'm unconvinced that Stockley is that player, and we ideally need a poacher to play alongside the Headmaster5 -
Taylor was fantastic that season. I don't think anyone has said he wasn't. I'd be careful if you're trying to twist people's words. People have simply said Stockley wasn't far off Taylor's level in terms of goalscoring.
I believe Stockley can get 15-20 goals
I think Washington can get 15 too
If our third & 4th choices can get 10- 15 between them that's fantastic.4 -
It was hopefully promoted to the premier League in 4 maybe 5 years.addick1956 said:
But this is year 2 of a five year plan. Or , Soviet style, the 5 year plan has beenmendonca said:To everybody who have struggled to sleep since TS said 'we are going to try to blow the league next season'.
In the interview above, he just said 'we will try our upmost to get promoted this season to the Championship'.
You can now reset your baseline of expectations in accordance to his exact words, and refer to the ambitions in the latest interview which supersedes anything said last season.
re-set .
He has signed a manager that has had consecutive promotions to maximise his chances.
If we fail again, I'll be interested to see how he chooses for us to proceed.0 -
21 in 41Southbank said:
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.1 -
Thanks, that's an even better averagecafcfan1990 said:
21 in 41Southbank said:
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.3 -
Decent? That’s rewriting history a bit, he scored 32 goals in 63 games. Forget the goals, every good bit of play for 2 years went through him.AndyG said:I now think that Taylor has gone into rose tinted glasses folklore according to some of our fans. Yes he was decent and did a good job for us but " 1 in a million " really ? If he was anywhere near what some on here remember him as being he would have featured alot more for Forest I thinkThe penalties, winding up the opposition fans, community work, political rants, etc. Like him or loathe him, he was box office. That sort of player is one in a million, I’m not commenting on his football ability alone.16 -
No it isn't...Southbank said:
Thanks, that's an even better averagecafcfan1990 said:
21 in 41Southbank said:
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.2 -
You can say that again.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:0 -
Oh dear. Can’t believe the Taylor argument has come back. Why can’t people just accept Stockley is a great signing and stop feeling the constant need to compare any of our current strikers to a past striker.34
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Delighted to have Famewo back and content to have Matthew’s back.
i totally agree with the poster that said Taylor is far superior to Stockley - his movement, athleticism, link up and finishing are all better
But Jayden is still a leading L1 striker. What this team really needs now IMO is a Malik Wilkes or Jamal Lowe, a wide forward who will score 15+ this season.
I can’t believe we still have posters going on about 3rd or 4th Scorers tucking 10+ times … he plays one up top! (how many times)
The Chuks replacement and the wingers are the stardust we need. I heard about one winger they are interested who’d be good start0 -
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Won’t be surprised if we see just one more perm signing. 2 at a push and the rest loans.How many real first team players is that?0
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Recently signed a new contract - Plymouth Argyle would expect big bucks for him.LargeAddick said:
The guy at Plymouth, Jephcott?CharltontillidieCOYR said:
But do you know what the transfer budget actually is as far as im aware yes its been played down by gallen but that would be sensible as otherwise it raises prices for all playersElliotCAFC said:
Can you name a proven goal scorer at this level who we could realistically sign and not spend all of our transfer budget?CharltontillidieCOYR said:
I dont think that would be good enough to be honest we need to replace aneke with a proven goalscorer not a youngster who may or may not work outElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.
we have lost a lot of goals and physicality with aneke going we HAVE to replace that !The only striker I can think of who could get 15+ goals and not break the bank is Stephen Humphrys, he’s about to sign for Wigan.
Whether we can get them im not sure but personally names i like are pigott
taylor oxford
Charles accringtonYour right though humphrys would of been ideal
must be some mid/low champ strikers we could poach if offered the right money
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Taylor's tally of 21 did include 8 pens (3 missed though).cafcfan1990 said:
21 in 41Southbank said:
Hardly, Taylor got 25 in 45 in League one. Stockley got 8 in 22.cafcfan1990 said:
Taylor got 1 in 2 for us, Stockley wasn't far off that last season. Hardly nowhere near the level.Southbank said:
Sadly both in terms of goals and all round play Stockley is nowhere near the level Taylor was for us.ElliotCAFC said:
I know what you mean, a talisman for the team (like Taylor, Clarke-Harris, Pigott, etc). I think that’s exactly what we’ve signed Stockley for, we haven’t paid all that money for him to be in a supporting role.DOUCHER said:
i'll bow to your greater knowledge but what makes you think there are no top strikers out there? My ideal is we bring one in (i'm talking a lyle taylor (although not him) / Marquis / Piggot / clarke harris type level / player) and a pacey young prem loan if we can do some sort of deal with ronnie - i just can't see him coming goodElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t look like there’s a top striker out there that’s still available.DOUCHER said:if we announced tomorrow that we've managed to offload ronnie and signed a top striker, i reckon the midfield gems that we need would suddenly become very interestedIt seems more likely, to me, that we’re hanging our hat on Stockley and we’ll have to invest the majority of our budget on wingers who can score and assist.I’d wager we’ll replace Chuks with a Premier League loan.I think the money we could be investing on another striker will go into a winger/midfielder who can score and assist. Any other gaps in the squad will likely be filled with an exciting loan from a top club.
That's 13 open play goals in 41 games.
I reckon Stockley's 8 in 22 (1 pen missed) compares pretty well.
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Given we "invested" a net of -£1.2M last season, I sure hope so.Maccn05 said:Said “we just invest a little more than last season”
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Just to clarify, signing only ‘one more player maybe two’ is one bloke’s opinion, not fact - before this gets lodged in the collective consciousness and mass hysteria ensues.DDOUBLEE said:
Need way, way more than that if we want promotion.esseffect said:Won’t be surprised if we see just one more perm signing. 2 at a push and the rest loans.How many real first team players is that?2 -
Schwartz’s had had an extended break due to personal issues.3
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hope for the lads sake he's managed to get sorted whatever he needed to, would love to see him hit the ground running this season and prove an awful lot of people wrong.
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AndyG said:Spurs letting Troy Parrot go out on loan again
Spurs letting Troy Parrot go out on loan again, Spurs letting Troy Parrot go out on loan again, Spurs letting Troy Parrot go out on loan again.21 -
I think we should try and get John Parrott if he’s allowed to go out on loan2
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