If you wanted to keep Chuks surely Williams is the same. I know Chuks was a goal scorer but I mean their effectiveness in their roles. Williams got the ball up the pitch, won us a lot of free kicks, made us play at a better tempo at times and was very impactful on the game from the bench. Reminds me of how Jack Grealish has impacted England when he comes on
Being disappointed if we signed him would be odd a little bit. If we can afford to have him and he is a option from the bench I don't see the harm, imagine he's a lovely bloke to be around as well and Adkins as said would be the man the keep him positive.
It's a yes from me if the wages are right and it doesn't hinder other potential players from signing
Think it's unfair to criticise Williams, every time he was on the pitch he was booted into the air the moment the ball was at his feet.
Lost count of the amount of free-kicks he wins.
But how many of them were in dangerous positions? From memory a lot of the fouls on him were in the middle of the park, as part of the problem is that he didn't get into dangerous areas of the pitch enough
If you wanted to keep Chuks surely Williams is the same. I know Chuks was a goal scorer but I mean their effectiveness in their roles. Williams got the ball up the pitch, won us a lot of free kicks, made us play at a better tempo at times and was very impactful on the game from the bench. Reminds me of how Jack Grealish has impacted England when he comes on
Being disappointed if we signed him would be odd a little bit. If we can afford to have him and he is a option from the bench I don't see the harm, imagine he's a lovely bloke to be around as well and Adkins as said would be the man the keep him positive.
It's a yes from me if the wages are right and it doesn't hinder other potential players from signing
Williams re signing for me is a no brainer. We know his strengths and weaknesses and when he’s buzzing he’s very effective. Certainly not a starter but my view is that he’d be a better option than a 20 year old PL loan to fill that squad gap. Its not a long term solution but nor are five loans every season. Add in the great to have around the place and that Nigel seems the perfect manager for Jonnie and I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
Charlton fans defending Schwartz and Williams. A major part of why we are where we are. Get a grip ffs.
That's pretty harsh on both of them - Shwartz only joined in January, barely played apart from 10 min cameos at the end of the game, missed one Pen which he hit well. We'd wasted points doing far worse shit than that last season.
Williams had a typically hot and cold HALF a season, his manager subbed him on and off within a half and gave him terrible abuse to the media at the end of the game, his confidence was clearly at an all-time low, then left in the January window. I don't want him back but to say he's a 'major part' of why we're in this current position is way OTT
If we can resign Pearce and Watson, Williams at least gives us a couple more years and he's someone that will help the youngsters as he's seen every level of the game. From League One to the Euros.
Charlton fans defending Schwartz and Williams. A major part of why we are where we are. Get a grip ffs.
Grown adults who feel the need to slag off any players are the ones who need to grip more me thinks!!
Not slagging them down just pointing out facts.
A grown man btw mocked by you and others for saying we were going down since Xmas in 2019 and for saying Bowyer should have gone at Xmas last year. Still carry on the happy clappy stuff.
Charlton fans defending Schwartz and Williams. A major part of why we are where we are. Get a grip ffs.
Grown adults who feel the need to slag off any players are the ones who need to grip more me thinks!!
Not slagging them down just pointing out facts.
A grown man btw mocked by you and others for saying we were going down since Xmas in 2019 and for saying Bowyer should have gone at Xmas last year. Still carry on the happy clappy stuff.
Oh I wasnt suggesting that you were
I just think over-reactions towards players, insulting them etc. is a bit more pathetic than defending them
If you wanted to keep Chuks surely Williams is the same. I know Chuks was a goal scorer but I mean their effectiveness in their roles. Williams got the ball up the pitch, won us a lot of free kicks, made us play at a better tempo at times and was very impactful on the game from the bench. Reminds me of how Jack Grealish has impacted England when he comes on
Being disappointed if we signed him would be odd a little bit. If we can afford to have him and he is a option from the bench I don't see the harm, imagine he's a lovely bloke to be around as well and Adkins as said would be the man the keep him positive.
It's a yes from me if the wages are right and it doesn't hinder other potential players from signing
How anybody can lol such an eloquent and simply stated post is beyond me.
Charlton fans defending Schwartz and Williams. A major part of why we are where we are. Get a grip ffs.
7th on goal difference!
We finished 7th due to lots of individual errors by most of the squad at some point in the season.
if famewo hadn’t gifted Wimbledon a goal, we would have finished 6th. Let’s call out famewo for being part of why we are where we are? Or Washington for missing a pen at gillingham?
I think I'm somewhere in the middle with Williams. Would want him certainly as a squad player at best, but then how much impact does he have as an impact sub? Where do we play him? Is he driving enough to play on the wing? Do we use him as a no 10? I don't think he's proven himself in that position. And then what are his wages? Can they be used to seal the deal on a 1st team signing, with a young loan taking up the squad place. In an ideal world I'd definitely have him around the squad for the unity, and because I think we all hoped there was a. secret to unlocking his potential. But in reality, managing a rebuild on a finite budget, I don't think it works out for me. Unfortunately.
I think I'm somewhere in the middle with Williams. Would want him certainly as a squad player at best, but then how much impact does he have as an impact sub? Where do we play him? Is he driving enough to play on the wing? Do we use him as a no 10? I don't think he's proven himself in that position. And then what are his wages? Can they be used to seal the deal on a 1st team signing, with a young loan taking up the squad place. In an ideal world I'd definitely have him around the squad for the unity, and because I think we all hoped there was a. secret to unlocking his potential. But in reality, managing a rebuild on a finite budget, I don't think it works out for me. Unfortunately.
Two names pop out to me. Smith and Levitt. Give me JW as a squad player all day long.
Charlton fans defending Schwartz and Williams. A major part of why we are where we are. Get a grip ffs.
7th on goal difference!
We finished 7th due to lots of individual errors by most of the squad at some point in the season.
if famewo hadn’t gifted Wimbledon a goal, we would have finished 6th. Let’s call out famewo for being part of why we are where we are? Or Washington for missing a pen at gillingham?
We bought a striker to fire us into the play offs. I do not consider one goal and the missing of a couple of open goals a good return. Money wasted, clearly not up to it and now clogging up the wage bill for a much needed replacement. Still I'll leave it there.
We should have cruised that league last year but Bowyer fucked us over for 3 months.
Charlton fans defending Schwartz and Williams. A major part of why we are where we are. Get a grip ffs.
7th on goal difference!
We finished 7th due to lots of individual errors by most of the squad at some point in the season.
if famewo hadn’t gifted Wimbledon a goal, we would have finished 6th. Let’s call out famewo for being part of why we are where we are? Or Washington for missing a pen at gillingham?
We bought a striker to fire us into the play offs. I do not consider one goal and the missing of a couple of open goals a good return. Money wasted, clearly not up to it and now clogging up the wage bill for a much needed replacement. Still I'll leave it there.
We should have cruised that league last year but Bowyer fucked us over for 3 months.
Williams re signing for me is a no brainer. We know his strengths and weaknesses and when he’s buzzing he’s very effective. Certainly not a starter but my view is that he’d be a better option than a 20 year old PL loan to fill that squad gap. Its not a long term solution but nor are five loans every season. Add in the great to have around the place and that Nigel seems the perfect manager for Jonnie and I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
We know his strengths and weaknesses?
Strengths: Nice lad to have about the place
Wins free kicks
Can pick a pass
Err... Good at growing a beard
Weaknesses: Not physical enough
Injury prone
Doesn't score goals with regularity Doesn't assist goals with regularity Isn't very fast
Williams re signing for me is a no brainer. We know his strengths and weaknesses and when he’s buzzing he’s very effective. Certainly not a starter but my view is that he’d be a better option than a 20 year old PL loan to fill that squad gap. Its not a long term solution but nor are five loans every season. Add in the great to have around the place and that Nigel seems the perfect manager for Jonnie and I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
We know his strengths and weaknesses?
Strengths: Nice lad to have about the place
Wins free kicks
Can pick a pass
Err... Good at growing a beard
Weaknesses: Not physical enough
Injury prone
Doesn't score goals with regularity Doesn't assist goals with regularity Isn't very fast
Can't head the ball well
Probably cost quite a bit still
He's not the answer to our problems, not one bit
I agree about JW....I loved the fella but been there done that and move on
I think those advocating Williams have not suggested we should blow our budget to get him. It is more if the opportunity arises at the right price.
That's fair enough, but how many mascots do we need ? At this stage I'd rather we sign wingers that are pushing to play 15 games in a row, average an assist/goal every game or 2... or bang on starters, rather than more players that are good for moral at the training ground.
Come August 30th, if we have a spare 2k PW to spend, then it's not a bad option.
Williams re signing for me is a no brainer. We know his strengths and weaknesses and when he’s buzzing he’s very effective. Certainly not a starter but my view is that he’d be a better option than a 20 year old PL loan to fill that squad gap. Its not a long term solution but nor are five loans every season. Add in the great to have around the place and that Nigel seems the perfect manager for Jonnie and I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
He hasn’t had a good run of games since September 2019. No thanks.
Personally think Williams would thrive under a manager like NA
I love JW but I do think he was given plenty of opportunities for a long time and tbh it only went sour at the end with bowyer so that cant be used as an excuse a player in his position is judged on goals and assists and he didnt provide either i think we should be looking at better if we are aiming for promotion / top 2
Everyone has their own opinions on JW I suppose but I really cant see it happening. I have no idea what wages he would be on but I would be gutted if we missed out on a player who we wanted because we couldn't match his wage demands and some of our budget was being taken up on JW. Like I said lovely bloke and wish him all the best but hopefully we have higher expectations
This is my view. The players we had last season we're not good enough and I was hoping for a major clear out especially after Sandgaard said we was going to smash this league next season. So the signing of Gunter Watson Pearce ,Foster Caskey Etc is leaving me pretty underwhelmed. Now some are calling for Williams to get given another contract. In my opinion we had better bring in a few better players than we have been otherwise we can forget about finishing in the top two.
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Being disappointed if we signed him would be odd a little bit. If we can afford to have him and he is a option from the bench I don't see the harm, imagine he's a lovely bloke to be around as well and Adkins as said would be the man the keep him positive.
It's a yes from me if the wages are right and it doesn't hinder other potential players from signing
Williams had a typically hot and cold HALF a season, his manager subbed him on and off within a half and gave him terrible abuse to the media at the end of the game, his confidence was clearly at an all-time low, then left in the January window. I don't want him back but to say he's a 'major part' of why we're in this current position is way OTT
If we can resign Pearce and Watson, Williams at least gives us a couple more years and he's someone that will help the youngsters as he's seen every level of the game. From League One to the Euros.
A grown man btw mocked by you and others for saying we were going down since Xmas in 2019 and for saying Bowyer should have gone at Xmas last year. Still carry on the happy clappy stuff.
I just think over-reactions towards players, insulting them etc. is a bit more pathetic than defending them
if famewo hadn’t gifted Wimbledon a goal, we would have finished 6th. Let’s call out famewo for being part of why we are where we are? Or Washington for missing a pen at gillingham?
We should have cruised that league last year but Bowyer fucked us over for 3 months.
Strengths:
Nice lad to have about the place
Good at growing a beard
Weaknesses:
Not physical enough
Doesn't assist goals with regularity
Isn't very fast
He's not the answer to our problems, not one bit
Come August 30th, if we have a spare 2k PW to spend, then it's not a bad option.
The players we had last season we're not good enough and I was hoping for a major clear out especially after Sandgaard said we was going to smash this league next season.
So the signing of Gunter Watson Pearce ,Foster Caskey Etc is leaving me pretty underwhelmed.
Now some are calling for Williams to get given another contract.
In my opinion we had better bring in a few better players than we have been otherwise we can forget about finishing in the top two.