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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Twitter seems to think it's almost certainly IpswichDA9 said:Rangers forum is saying that Edmundson has left and signed a 3 year deal with an as yet unknown club1 -
We beat Sunderland and Ipswich to his signature so we either paid Oxford more or offered better contract ?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I agree with your last sentence, but can't agree that 'if we want someone we will get him', especially when it's pretty common knowledge that Ipswich and Wigan are paying higher salaries, and probably Sunderland too.RonnieMoore said:
Why … if we want someone we will get him like ClareElliotCAFC said:Edmundson would be quite a coup for us. 23 years old, great height and experience.Fully expect him to sign for either Ipswich or Wigan.
This story came from Portsmouth everything they are interested in someone they add Charlton Sunderland and Ipswich to the story .. think it gives them an excuse to their fans when he don’t join them ..2 -
According to Scottish newspaper Daily Record only Derby and Ipswich are interested , Derby can only offer him a loan deal but Ipswich have offered 3 year deal …No mention of us ..0
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I think we lost 1 league game last season when Innis started? If true, he really is our most key player by far.
We've rejuvenated our physio and medical setup, and they think the best way to set his body up for the season is to put him on a slow burn pre season. That's the specialists' highly paid opinion to get the most out of him.
Surely we should be pleased he's got a customized program? It seems like some are taking it as an admission that he will only play half the season. This is the planned cure, not the symptoms.9 -
I was talking in general, not about Clare.RonnieMoore said:
We beat Sunderland and Ipswich to his signature so we either paid Oxford more or offered better contract ?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I agree with your last sentence, but can't agree that 'if we want someone we will get him', especially when it's pretty common knowledge that Ipswich and Wigan are paying higher salaries, and probably Sunderland too.RonnieMoore said:
Why … if we want someone we will get him like ClareElliotCAFC said:Edmundson would be quite a coup for us. 23 years old, great height and experience.Fully expect him to sign for either Ipswich or Wigan.
This story came from Portsmouth everything they are interested in someone they add Charlton Sunderland and Ipswich to the story .. think it gives them an excuse to their fans when he don’t join them ..
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Watching the highlights of the last few games of last season on Charlton Tv. Im surprised at how many times our good lead up play was through Maatsen and Millar. Having said that I was really impressed by Owen Dale of Crewe, could he fill the void left by Millar?1
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Yes, they were both key players in the good run we had later in the season. Desperately need replacements for both of them.TEL said:Watching the highlights of the last few games of last season on Charlton Tv. Im surprised at how many times our good lead up play was through Maatsen and Millar. Having said that I was really impressed by Owen Dale of Crewe, could he fill the void left by Millar?3 -
Edmundson isn't all that, only really proved his worth in league 2 with Oldham, was a punt signing by Rangers, there are better options at this level, we already have two better centre backs on our books at least5
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Owen Dale would be an excellent target , however I think Crewe will want a very substantial fee for him , probably championship interest to contend with tooTEL said:Watching the highlights of the last few games of last season on Charlton Tv. Im surprised at how many times our good lead up play was through Maatsen and Millar. Having said that I was really impressed by Owen Dale of Crewe, could he fill the void left by Millar?2 -
Sure, but after last season his fitness is massively important. We shouldn't be looking at a CB to be back up to him, we should be assuming that the new CB is going to be first choice instead.JamesSeed said:
Inniss doesn’t have to prove his quality. He’s probably the best RCB in the league. He’s hugely important defensively and in attacking dead ball positionsthenewbie said:
Honestly, any CB we look at should be good enough to be first choice on their own merit and let Inniss be the one to prove his quality/fitness and fight for a chance.Cafc43v3r said:
That's exactly my point do you aim high and when Inniss is available he might not play?Clarky said:
If we are managing Inniss to get him through friendlies how often is he going to be able to play three games in 8 days? I would say a loan would be a good call and I will wager they play half a season.Cafc43v3r said:I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
Or do you do you say Inniss is my first choice but might only play 20 games and you'll play the rest?
Its a difficult call, and to attract a loan, because center halves very rarely got the chance to force there way into the team through sub appearances. You bring an attacking player off the bench in almost every game.
Such a CB would be very hard to find I grant you but for me Inniss cannot be counted on as a first choice defender for a whole season.
His fitness is another matter. But I’m pretty sure they’ll try and get every minute they can out of him.
I'd love a whole season of Inniss in defence but past seasons say that would be a fluke.2 -
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Personally no, it’s unlikely given the spending in the Championship. I do think we can make a lot of progress in the next few years though, even if that’s just stabilising in the Championship.Dave Rudd said:
So you think that Premier League in five years (remembering that one has already been wasted by Bowyer) is still feasible ... and on Sandgaard's radar?Scoham said:
If TS talked about the long term plans again I doubt he'd say anything has changed. I think he's so optimistic (or naive/deluded depending on your view) he feels we can win the league without spending like Ipswich or Wigan.Dave Rudd said:
Three of the top six will not get promoted.Laddick01 said:
It makes a lot of sense. Wouldn’t read too much into it.WSS said:Interesting that Gallen talking about players to get us in the top six, rather than get promoted.
If you can get into the top 6 you’re going to be there or thereabouts in terms of promotion.
What happened to "blow this league out the water"?
And the five-year plan to get to the Premier League?
Yes, yes ... I'm delighted that we have a genuine owner, and that we are not being run by spivs etc. And that we have a Club to support.
But the goalposts seemed to have moved dramatically since Sandgaard first took over.
Me? I'll settle for a ten-year plan.
Maybe time for Sandgaard to articulate the new long-term vision. Because, sure as Hell, the original hyperbole ain't gonna happen.
It looks like he believes it can be done through intelligent recruitment and investment in the right areas. Finding good value for money rather than outspending everyone.
He's also patient and probably expects to bring in some bargains and quality loans as we move towards the end of the window. There are clubs out there that will need the money and good players out of contract getting their last payment from their previous contract this month.
If he gets it wrong this season he'll end up spending a lot more on another promotion attempt than had he gone for it a bit more this summer. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, for me we still need 4/5 signings as a minimum, ideally a few more than that.
I wish that you are right.
In Sandgaard’s mind I’d say yes, he believes we’ll find a way. This transfer window doesn’t necessarily mean every future one under him will go the same way. He could bring in new investors. We could start spending more if we’ve made a big sale or two in the way clubs like Brentford do. Or maybe he’s just extremely confident in the way we’re going to recruit signings and develop players from the academy.0 -
It’s going to be a very competitive league this season. Throwing the cash around won’t be the way to get one of those 3 promotion spots, signing the right players to put out a competitive team for this league every week will be.Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.2 -
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Those three are recent enough to show we’ll give some players longer deals.CA1975FC said:12 -
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.38 -
I don't get the massive love-in for Portsmouth's manager either...BowSelecta said:
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.2 -
That isn't true. Adkins has won league one with Scunthorpe. Cook won it with Wigan. Adkins hasn't won the championship.BowSelecta said:
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.
Cook also won league two with Chesterfield and Portsmouth.
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Liked this initially but would have given you a "lol" for this line! Brilliant!BowSelecta said:
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.0 -
Don’t forget that they also have Bonne. Voted the most terrible player in the history of football by Charlton fans in 20019 and 2020BowSelecta said:
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.1 -
The panic and anxiety about whether we are good enough to compete has reared its head again so thought I’d add to the quoted post with this:BR7_addick said:Posted in here as well as squad list because it’ll be seen by more.How we kicked off 20/21:
Amos
Barker, Oshilaja, Pratley, Purrington
Gilbey, Lapslie, JFC
Doughty, Bonne, Washington
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How we will currently kick off 21/22:
McGillivray
Matthews, Innis, Famewo, Purrington
Gilbey, Dobson, Clare
Jaiyesimi, Stockley, Washington
Matched up player for player I make it this seasons team wins 6-2 with 3 being the same.
And we’ve not even finished business yet, things are better, relax people.
Record under Adkins:
W5 D4 L1
That equates to 87 points over 46 games.This is with a worse XI for the majority than we will start the season with (and our business is not done), we also still managed to finished 7th on GD.We now have players on proper contracts who are enjoying a summer of stability rather than worrying if they’re getting paid.
There are so many reasons to be positive heading into the Wednesday game, and I’m usually glass half empty!5 -
Ipswich have a nice set of fixtures at the start of the season playing Morecombe, Cheltenham & Wimbledon in Aug.
Our starting fixtures look comparatively tougher against Sheff Weds, Wigan & Oxford etc
...even more reason why we could do with not waiting till deadline day to fill most of our remaining squad gaps (but I get that the game of transfer poker makes that hard for Gallen to achieve without overpaying).
Although it's hard to judge alot from friendlies, Ipswich lost to palace 1-0 on Sat. Be interesting to see how we get on against Palace on Tues as a bit of a benchmark.
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No he hasn't.BowSelecta said:
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.2 -
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Fair, shoulda said “been promoted” rather than woncafcfan1990 said:
No he hasn't.BowSelecta said:
I don’t get all this blowing smoke up Paul Cook’s Neil Harris. Adkins has won this league and the league above more times than he has. Cook’s win % at Ipswich so far is 25%, Adkins at Charlton is 50%. We’ll be finishing above Ipswich again this season, despite the world class players they’ve signed from MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon!Sage said:Paul Cook is an excellent manager and would be surprised if Ipswich fail to get promoted this coming season. They’ve done some excellent business, albeit spending a lot of money. But Cook is proven and knows how to win a league and if it wasn’t for administration, would’ve kept Wigan up the other year.1
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