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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    DOUCHER said:
    i could go back to my mate and ask what shade / skin tone / hair / height / build etc but think i've said too much - i will now discipline myself for unconcsious bias or something or other and take a damm good look at myself - btw - i couldn't care less whether he is black, brown, yellow, white or anything else - irrelevant to me 

  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    edited August 2021
    TomNight said:
    Chances of it actually being Madger Gomes? Still 3 weeks left but bloody hell we could do with a positive transfer just to settle everyone down. 

    It’s nuts that the window remains open 4/5 games into the season! 
    If we’ve asked Madger Gomes to come back after failing a trial then we’re in serious trouble. 

    It will be someone else 
  • Good to hear Kyle Edwards is still training with us even after signing for Ipswich.

    Hopefully he's still turning out for Reading as well.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    is it Ben Odeje?
    hope so - he can help me 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    DOUCHER said:
    i could go back to my mate and ask what shade / skin tone / hair / height / build etc but think i've said too much - i will now discipline myself for unconcsious bias or something or other and take a damm good look at myself - btw - i couldn't care less whether he is black, brown, yellow, white or anything else - irrelevant to me 
    Ask how many tattoos he has. If it’s 15 then I think I know who it is. 
    he's got one that stretches either side of his 'division' - does that count as 1 or 2 ? 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    could have said short, tall, left footed, forward, winger etc. Just don't see how his colour is relevant.
    no, you're right - how ridiculous of me, i apologise unreservedly 
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Let's not turn this thread into another fucking debate about something that's got nothing to do with rumours please
    don't worry, i think they are on a wind up - surely...???
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited August 2021
    I always thought that our squad rebuild couldn’t be done in this summer window and it would take maybe even two or three more windows to get close to what we need. I must admit I did think that by first game we would have a squad that could be challenging for playoffs and not deficient in key areas. With three weeks left to this window we are still woefully short and I doubt three or four PL kids will change that. My view is unless we sign three permanent first choice players our best hope is hanging in there near the top six to give us a chance to push on in January with a signing or two. Still three weeks but masses to do. Not many goals in what we currently have.
  • DOUCHER said:
    i could go back to my mate and ask what shade / skin tone / hair / height / build etc but think i've said too much - i will now discipline myself for unconcsious bias or something or other and take a damm good look at myself - btw - i couldn't care less whether he is black, brown, yellow, white or anything else - irrelevant to me 
    Or you could just ask for the players name. 
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  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    DOUCHER said:
    i could go back to my mate and ask what shade / skin tone / hair / height / build etc but think i've said too much - i will now discipline myself for unconcsious bias or something or other and take a damm good look at myself - btw - i couldn't care less whether he is black, brown, yellow, white or anything else - irrelevant to me 
    Or you could just ask for the players name. 
    Quite certain that if his mate knew his name, he would have told him.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    My biggest concern is we had miles more impressive windows under Roland than so far this summer...... which I wasn’t expecting after the fighting talk at the end of last season
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,665
    Belv said:

    It was fun while it lasted!
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    Belv said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    could have said short, tall, left footed, forward, winger etc. Just don't see how his colour is relevant.
    Oh come on, if he had just said “A new player was training today” everyone on here naturally would have asked what he looked like and obviously he would have then been described as black, short/tall or whatever.

    There is clearly nothing in what Doucher has said, just trying to be as descriptive as he could.
    its the only descriptor i have atm - i've gone back for more - as long as he's not slow and ginger i don't see what the problem is  :D
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    I know what you mean, but it’s no more descriptive than saying a player is blonde.

    If it was Charlie Kirk training, would you say “a new white player was training today”?

    Not saying you’re being racist at, all by the way. Great that we’ve got something to be excited about 




    have a think about it Elliot, you seem a reasonable chap - hasn't all the talk today been about kirk signing - well, a new player has been training with the team - people seem to think if a player signs, he does a medical, trains then does photoshoot so surely adding the player is black gives a bit more info than not saying it - why on earth i wouldn't say it just shows how f&&ked up things are now with all this PC nonsense. 
    Can you refrain from calling people politically correct please?
     It kind of upsets and is slightly offensive to the non-politically correct fraternity.
  • Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    i could go back to my mate and ask what shade / skin tone / hair / height / build etc but think i've said too much - i will now discipline myself for unconcsious bias or something or other and take a damm good look at myself - btw - i couldn't care less whether he is black, brown, yellow, white or anything else - irrelevant to me 

    Not a lot to go on inspector. 
  • DOUCHER said:
    i could go back to my mate and ask what shade / skin tone / hair / height / build etc but think i've said too much - i will now discipline myself for unconcsious bias or something or other and take a damm good look at myself - btw - i couldn't care less whether he is black, brown, yellow, white or anything else - irrelevant to me 
    No mate you don't have to do any of that. Just ask what position he plays or is this already accepted he is the winger come Striker.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
     Come on guys a player is a player - there is no need to mention his ethnic background 
     Or that he's a player. In fact. Don't mention him at all. That's if it is a him?
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    I know what you mean, but it’s no more descriptive than saying a player is blonde.

    If it was Charlie Kirk training, would you say “a new white player was training today”?

    Not saying you’re being racist at, all by the way. Great that we’ve got something to be excited about 




    have a think about it Elliot, you seem a reasonable chap - hasn't all the talk today been about kirk signing - well, a new player has been training with the team - people seem to think if a player signs, he does a medical, trains then does photoshoot so surely adding the player is black gives a bit more info than not saying it - why on earth i wouldn't say it just shows how f&&ked up things are now with all this PC nonsense. 
    Can you refrain from calling people politically correct please?
     It kind of upsets and is slightly offensive to the non-politically correct fraternity.
    of course - in fact i apologise to everybody for everything - just in case - think that covers it 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,221
    edited August 2021
    As much as this rumour of Kirk has gone on for too long without an ending, it’s nice to be on the other side of the fence for once and not be the club about to lose one of there young stars.
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Belv said:

    Heads explode across the fanbase as Nixon gets something right.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    I know what you mean, but it’s no more descriptive than saying a player is blonde.

    If it was Charlie Kirk training, would you say “a new white player was training today”?

    Not saying you’re being racist at, all by the way. Great that we’ve got something to be excited about 




    have a think about it Elliot, you seem a reasonable chap - hasn't all the talk today been about kirk signing - well, a new player has been training with the team - people seem to think if a player signs, he does a medical, trains then does photoshoot so surely adding the player is black gives a bit more info than not saying it - why on earth i wouldn't say it just shows how f&&ked up things are now with all this PC nonsense. 
    Can you refrain from calling people politically correct please?
     It kind of upsets and is slightly offensive to the non-politically correct fraternity.
    of course - in fact i apologise to everybody for everything - just in case - think that covers it 
    Including your definition of a 'true supporter'? 
     ;)

    I jest of course.

    At least we learn there is someone other than Kirk potentially to be announced ASAP.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    I know what you mean, but it’s no more descriptive than saying a player is blonde.

    If it was Charlie Kirk training, would you say “a new white player was training today”?

    Not saying you’re being racist at, all by the way. Great that we’ve got something to be excited about 




    have a think about it Elliot, you seem a reasonable chap - hasn't all the talk today been about kirk signing - well, a new player has been training with the team - people seem to think if a player signs, he does a medical, trains then does photoshoot so surely adding the player is black gives a bit more info than not saying it - why on earth i wouldn't say it just shows how f&&ked up things are now with all this PC nonsense. 
    It isn’t un pc to say a player is black. 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    edited August 2021
    bobmunro said:
    Putting two and two together it sounds as though the personal issue might be down to location.
    So Kirk has only just realised that Charlton is south of Crewe?

    I can only assume that Crewe accepted a bid from us only to be told by Kirk that he's not interested in moving south.
    .
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    JamesSeed said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    can confirm that a, how should i say it, to be totally PC - here goes anyway, lets hope ive got it right - ' a new black player was training with the team today' so ... 
    if you wanted to be really PC you could have said 'a new player was training with the team today'. 
    isn't black a bit more descriptive ? 
    I know what you mean, but it’s no more descriptive than saying a player is blonde.

    If it was Charlie Kirk training, would you say “a new white player was training today”?

    Not saying you’re being racist at, all by the way. Great that we’ve got something to be excited about 




    have a think about it Elliot, you seem a reasonable chap - hasn't all the talk today been about kirk signing - well, a new player has been training with the team - people seem to think if a player signs, he does a medical, trains then does photoshoot so surely adding the player is black gives a bit more info than not saying it - why on earth i wouldn't say it just shows how f&&ked up things are now with all this PC nonsense. 
    It isn’t un pc to say a player is black. 
    thank god (whoever he is), i'm reprieved 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Addickted said:
    Something definitely strange going on in the background.

    Of a number of players I've been told will be 'over the line' in the next couple of the days, there only appears to be a reasonable excuse for one of them not happening due to a failed medical.

    Two separate sources told me Kirk was done and dusted on Thursday.
    What’s the concern? 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    Thanks Doucher your info is appreciated 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    Rothko said:
    Addickted said:
    Something definitely strange going on in the background.

    Of a number of players I've been told will be 'over the line' in the next couple of the days, there only appears to be a reasonable excuse for one of them not happening due to a failed medical.

    Two separate sources told me Kirk was done and dusted on Thursday.
    What’s the concern? 
    we ain't got one of them old school physio's in to do the medicals have we 'right son, up on the bench, take your shorts and pants off' 
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