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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,810
    Clare isn’t here to be a back up, no matter if you made your mind up on him during the first half on Saturday, think he’s got a pretty high upside to him in terms of potential 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Possibly, but we failed to score against a very experienced Sheff Wednesday back four, so maybe they won’t come much tougher than that defensively.  
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    It's great to get away from a side packed with the likes of Pratley, Watson, Gunter and Pearce - each one of them have their merits but consistently playing three or even all four of them limits the energy and pace in the team. It also does nothing for the future.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Callumcafc said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    Very very wishful thinking. 

    Stockley is the only one you'd be confident in. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    We just need to sign that Randell fella and this guy https://globalsportsarchive.com/people/soccer/lorenzo-hop/47917/ and my day will be complete.
  • Bexleyheath_Addick
    Bexleyheath_Addick Posts: 211
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Hopefully with Gilbey back in the no10 role, he'll add goals. Really found his form towards the end of last season. 
  • NorthumberlandAddick
    NorthumberlandAddick Posts: 300
    Callumcafc said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    I think some of those figures are a bit generous
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Yeah those numbers are definitely on the generous side! 

    Personally would prefer another striker and play 4-4-2, but Adkins seems to prefer 1 up.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    sam3110 said:
    addick1956 said:
    charlton_hero said:

    Bastard 🥸😰
    I don't believe him for a second, why would a random Charlton fan have a 2015 Range Rover Evoque with a 2011 personalised numberplate that spells out C KIRK when they're name is Jake?
    Have you ever thought of becoming a detective?  :smile:
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,587
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Can’t see anything in the Jephcott rumours. It’s been said before but we’re not going to spend that sort of money for someone to sit on the bench behind Stockley. 
    Get your point with the cost involved, but we need a striker with a proven record to support/back up Stockley, and maybe Jephcott is that player, and we will need to spend realistically to get the right player in, the alternative is reliance on youth ie Davison
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    ValleyGary said:
    Yeah those numbers are definitely on the generous side! 

    Personally would prefer another striker and play 4-4-2, but Adkins seems to prefer 1 up.
    I don't think it's just Adkins, I don't think many teams play with 2 strikers these days. When I checked last weekend no one in league one was playing two up top. 
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,155
    eastterrace6168 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Can’t see anything in the Jephcott rumours. It’s been said before but we’re not going to spend that sort of money for someone to sit on the bench behind Stockley. 
    Get your point with the cost involved, but we need a striker with a proven record to support/back up Stockley, and maybe Jephcott is that player, and we will need to spend realistically to get the right player in, the alternative is reliance on youth ie Davison
    Jephcott is 4 months younger than Davison, just saying. (Not sure what I'm saying, though)
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,754
    addick1956 said:
    Lowery and or Dale now ?
    Dale will go to a Championship side 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    addick1956 said:
    Lowery and or Dale now ?
    Crewe have accepted a £500k offer from a championship club for Dale.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    SELR_addicks said:
    Callumcafc said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    Very very wishful thinking. 

    Stockley is the only one you'd be confident in. 
    Not sure I’d even be too confident in Stockley getting 15-20. With a fair wind he might get there.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Would be good to get a permanent striker signed up. Dion Charles would be great. Then loans at LB, CB and CAM. Then Hendo in as a short term No2 keeper. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    agreed - morgan and dobson don't appear to have goals in them - gilby does but isn't a general type - i see him and clare as being interchangeable - break the bank for a goalscoring midfield playmaker who morgan can deputise for and a  pacey left back now and we are in business  - then sort the schwarz situation out one way or another and bring a CB in 
  • Bexleyheath_Addick
    Bexleyheath_Addick Posts: 211
    edited August 2021
    se9addick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Callumcafc said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    Very very wishful thinking. 

    Stockley is the only one you'd be confident in. 
    Not sure I’d even be too confident in Stockley getting 15-20. With a fair wind he might get there.
    Tbf, he got 8 in 22 last year. So equals out to about 16-20 goals across a 46 game season in the league. 
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    FishCostaFortune said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Yeah those numbers are definitely on the generous side! 

    Personally would prefer another striker and play 4-4-2, but Adkins seems to prefer 1 up.
    I don't think it's just Adkins, I don't think many teams play with 2 strikers these days. When I checked last weekend no one in league one was playing two up top. 
    Yeah I know I’m in the minority camp and it’s seen as a little outdated, but if you’ve got two goal scoring strikers that compliment each other I think it would be the difference at this level.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    DOUCHER said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    agreed - morgan and dobson don't appear to have goals in them - gilby does but isn't a general type - i see him and clare as being interchangeable - break the bank for a goalscoring midfield playmaker who morgan can deputise for and a  pacey left back now and we are in business  - then sort the schwarz situation out one way or another and bring a CB in 
    Agree entirely and the rest can be loans for cover. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,735
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Desperately in need of goals from midfield. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    ValleyGary said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Yeah those numbers are definitely on the generous side! 

    Personally would prefer another striker and play 4-4-2, but Adkins seems to prefer 1 up.
    I don't think it's just Adkins, I don't think many teams play with 2 strikers these days. When I checked last weekend no one in league one was playing two up top. 
    Yeah I know I’m in the minority camp and it’s seen as a little outdated, but if you’ve got two goal scoring strikers that compliment each other I think it would be the difference at this level.
    Yeah I don't really disagree, I really like Washington up top. With Stockley's physicality and Washington's movement I wouldn't expect any defence would enjoy facing that.

    But I guess teams these days want/need/tend to have 3 midfielders in the centre of the park. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,198
    cs1986 said:
    He doesn’t do that thing where he rubs his hands together for no obvious reason. 
    Underwhelmed. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Bexleyheath_Addick said:
    se9addick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Callumcafc said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    Very very wishful thinking. 

    Stockley is the only one you'd be confident in. 
    Not sure I’d even be too confident in Stockley getting 15-20. With a fair wind he might get there.
    Tbf, he got 8 in 22 last year. So equals out to about 16-20 goals across a 46 game season in the league. 
    That works mathematically, but in practicality it isn’t that easy
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    Callumcafc said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    Morgan 5 seriously 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    If you're going by highest total in a season so far, here are the goals in our squad - in League One or above: 

    Washington: 12
    Stockley: 8
    Jaiyesimi: 4
    Gilbey: 5
    Kirk: 6
    Clare: 4
    Morgan: 1
    Dobson: 1
    All of our defenders: 4

    Even with Forster-Caskey's 5, it's clearly not enough goals in the squad. 
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,772
    SELR_addicks said:
    If you're going by highest total in a season so far, here are the goals in our squad - in League One or above: 

    Washington: 12
    Stockley: 8
    Jaiyesimi: 4
    Gilbey: 5
    Kirk: 6
    Clare: 4
    Morgan: 1
    Dobson: 1
    All of our defenders: 4

    Even with Forster-Caskey's 5, it's clearly not enough goals in the squad. 
    I thought Kirk has scored 24 on 3 seasons so a high of 6 can’t be right
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