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I didn't get too bogged down in actual numbers - more comparative now to what we had vs. what we have now. Once you start trying to reconcile back to accounts or bigger known spend numbers, it all becomes wildly speculative and even more inaccurate. It's more about trying to gauge what spend might have been spent on players, where they now sit within the wage structure and, assuming that we keeping a budget similar to last year, how many more players we could bring in if those assumptions are accurate. Having an estimated wage for players who were at other clubs before can give an guess as to where our signings are at now.
As I say, it's all guess work, but my post-it note calculations using these numbers suggest that our wages are already pretty high and we aren't going to get a massive intake of players. I will gleefully enjoy it if I am wrong and we do get 4 or 5 players, but I doubt it.2 -
ColinTat said:In the 19 accounts it states 40 non playing staff? I'd have thought 2 million would cover that. Does catering and stewarding go down as wages? As I guess they're all employed by external contractors, are they put down as different costs?
I would have thought that £6 million for us was pretty accurate though.
There were 40 non-football in 2019 but 96 on the football side.1 -
Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week0 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week1 -
Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week1 -
Appreciate is a relatively short career, and these guys are the best, but if you cant set yourself up for life on £30k a week (£12.5m over 8 year "top flight" career), there's gotta be something wrong1
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EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
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Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
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Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
I am specifically talking about the "super clubs"0 -
Cafc43v3r said:Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
I am specifically talking about the "super clubs"
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....assuming these wages are paid for out of the takings, and not from money being constantly pumped in by owners0
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Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
I am specifically talking about the "super clubs"
I am not sure giving more money to the glaziers or kroenke is high up on anyone wish list?
Its not the top clubs paying it that's the real problem. They either generate the income or someone puts it in. The problem is people gambling with money they haven't got.0 -
Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
- an obscenely rich oligarch, reportedly at Putin's behest
- an Emirate
- another Emirate
- a couple of Spanish clubs who have been obscenely funded by taxpayers, regardless of whom those taxpayers support
- a ridiculous global TV focus on the Premier League, widening the TV revenue gap between FAPL and all other European clubs
then their 'economic value' would be at max. a third of what it is today, to the benefit of the game overall. As I said in the opening post, my Czech neighbour alerted me to this, and he had already looked at Charlton's figures - and he has seen the best of the recent Charlton live at Wembley - and simply could not imagine that they might be accurate, given what is known about salaries at the top Czech clubs -and what he had seen of Charlton!1 -
PragueAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
- an obscenely rich oligarch, reportedly at Putin's behest
- an Emirate
- another Emirate
- a couple of Spanish clubs who have been obscenely funded by taxpayers, regardless of whom those taxpayers support
- a ridiculous global TV focus on the Premier League, widening the TV revenue gap between FAPL and all other European clubs
then their 'economic value' would be at max. a third of what it is today, to the benefit of the game overall. As I said in the opening post, my Czech neighbour alerted me to this, and he had already looked at Charlton's figures - and he has seen the best of the recent Charlton live at Wembley - and simply could not imagine that they might be accurate, given what is known about salaries at the top Czech clubs -and what he had seen of Charlton!
In the existing frame work the wages of the top players aren't a problem are they? For the clubs we are talking about.
Which is my point.
If anyone pays, I don't know, Chris Woods a salary that reflects what Lukaku is on that's their fault not Chelsea’s. Ben Watson's salary is no more related to Kante's than mine is to Robert Kardashian.
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Cafc43v3r said:Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
I am specifically talking about the "super clubs"
I am not sure giving more money to the glaziers or kroenke is high up on anyone wish list?
Its not the top clubs paying it that's the real problem. They either generate the income or someone puts it in. The problem is people gambling with money they haven't got.
I think fans need to realise that the only way their Clubs are going to remain in existence, is if they're viable businesses. The Glaziers and Kroenke haven't done too bad by their Clubs have they, looking at the salaries they're paying their players.
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Gribbo said:Appreciate is a relatively short career, and these guys are the best, but if you cant set yourself up for life on £30k a week (£12.5m over 8 year "top flight" career), there's gotta be something wrong
Don't get me wrong - the above doesn't mean I feel sorry for them!0 -
bobmunro said:Gribbo said:Appreciate is a relatively short career, and these guys are the best, but if you cant set yourself up for life on £30k a week (£12.5m over 8 year "top flight" career), there's gotta be something wrong
Don't get me wrong - the above doesn't mean I feel sorry for them!0 -
Cafc43v3r said:PragueAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
- an obscenely rich oligarch, reportedly at Putin's behest
- an Emirate
- another Emirate
- a couple of Spanish clubs who have been obscenely funded by taxpayers, regardless of whom those taxpayers support
- a ridiculous global TV focus on the Premier League, widening the TV revenue gap between FAPL and all other European clubs
then their 'economic value' would be at max. a third of what it is today, to the benefit of the game overall. As I said in the opening post, my Czech neighbour alerted me to this, and he had already looked at Charlton's figures - and he has seen the best of the recent Charlton live at Wembley - and simply could not imagine that they might be accurate, given what is known about salaries at the top Czech clubs -and what he had seen of Charlton!
In the existing frame work the wages of the top players aren't a problem are they? For the clubs we are talking about.
Which is my point.
If anyone pays, I don't know, Chris Woods a salary that reflects what Lukaku is on that's their fault not Chelsea’s. Ben Watson's salary is no more related to Kante's than mine is to Robert Kardashian.4 -
PragueAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:PragueAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:EveshamAddick said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
To be fair to that list Fred plays 8 or 9 times out of 10 for man United. I don't think Phil Jones has played since he signed his new contract.
Kante's salary should have no effect on Drinkwater's, let alone players at other clubs, salary.
- an obscenely rich oligarch, reportedly at Putin's behest
- an Emirate
- another Emirate
- a couple of Spanish clubs who have been obscenely funded by taxpayers, regardless of whom those taxpayers support
- a ridiculous global TV focus on the Premier League, widening the TV revenue gap between FAPL and all other European clubs
then their 'economic value' would be at max. a third of what it is today, to the benefit of the game overall. As I said in the opening post, my Czech neighbour alerted me to this, and he had already looked at Charlton's figures - and he has seen the best of the recent Charlton live at Wembley - and simply could not imagine that they might be accurate, given what is known about salaries at the top Czech clubs -and what he had seen of Charlton!
In the existing frame work the wages of the top players aren't a problem are they? For the clubs we are talking about.
Which is my point.
If anyone pays, I don't know, Chris Woods a salary that reflects what Lukaku is on that's their fault not Chelsea’s. Ben Watson's salary is no more related to Kante's than mine is to Robert Kardashian.
You could actually make an argument that players below the championship shouldn't get paid anything, as a basic wage.0 -
Gribbo said:bobmunro said:Gribbo said:Appreciate is a relatively short career, and these guys are the best, but if you cant set yourself up for life on £30k a week (£12.5m over 8 year "top flight" career), there's gotta be something wrong
Don't get me wrong - the above doesn't mean I feel sorry for them!
Some players are sensible and invest their money wisely so as to have sufficient income for a very good lifestyle for the rest of their lives, even if they never earned another penny. I know some who have done that very, very well - one in particular who is on the list of Premier League earners (not £250k a week but a very good wage!). I know others who are boracic at the point they retire from football after earning very good money.1 - Sponsored links:
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Football is a business at the end of the day and top players at top clubs who actually bring in revenue for their club in terms of adding to the fanbase or selling merchandise then they deserve whatever they get. How many players in the championship, league one and downwards do that? I would say none ! These are the wages that I find hard to justify. 5, 10, 20, 30k a week and not particularly good players in terms of bringing value. As an example look at our wages on players, how many of them in terms of individuals put bums on seats0
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One last gripe lol
Messi when he did his crying press conference when leaving Barca ! If he was that upset he could easily have said pay me £1 a week and I will stay for my love of the club. Not like he needs the money is it plus his endorsement income is off the scale without his club wages1 -
AndyG said:One last gripe lol
Messi when he did his crying press conference when leaving Barca ! If he was that upset he could easily have said pay me £1 a week and I will stay for my love of the club. Not like he needs the money is it plus his endorsement income is off the scale without his club wages
Apparently he offered that but couldn't under Spanish law take more than a 50% pay cut.
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So the clubs who are spending £140m+ a year on first team wages, would they be turning a an overall profit?0
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Cafc43v3r said:Gribbo said:So the clubs who are spending £140m+ a year on first team wages, would they be turning a an overall profit?
Just been looking at this -
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/22/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2017-18-accounts-manchester-united-city
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Millwall playing £2m salaries for players I’ve never heard of! Division 1 salaries are nuts.Jesus, literally the profession you want ur kids to make it in.0
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Gribbo said:Cafc43v3r said:Gribbo said:So the clubs who are spending £140m+ a year on first team wages, would they be turning a an overall profit?
Just been looking at this -
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/22/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2017-18-accounts-manchester-united-city0 -
Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
The likes of Kante, Lukaku, Mount should be earning big money, the likes of Drinkwater and Rahman should not.0 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Gribbo said:Kantè on £290k a week. That's obscene
It's when you see average PL players on 100k+ a week or championship players on 30k a week that takes the piss.
Phil Jones 110k a week
Fred 120k a week
Baba Rahman (who?) 91k a week at Chelsea
Drinkwater 120k a week
The likes of Kante, Lukaku, Mount should be earning big money, the likes of Drinkwater and Rahman should not.
Same with all US sports - pitchers in MLB and QBs in NFL are by far the top earners.
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