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Ground Ownership Implications for Club Development (Barnsley F.C)

The Prince-e-Paul
The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,701
in General Charlton
I was reading this article from the local rag and wondered, what with RD still owning The Valley, whether that has any bearing on TS or outside investment potential/opportunities. 

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/what-next-for-barnsley-fc-after-co-chairman-paul-conway-confirms-the-club-have-abandoned-plans-to-buy-oakwell-3361773

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,743
    It worries me massively Tbf. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,316
    Don't know much about Barnsley but isn't the Cryne family the family of their previous owner whom was a fan, a decent owner and passed away?  By all accounts he was a really decent fella.

    Whereas their owner now is one of the wealthiest people on the planet but has missed installments due to the family on the purchase and is trying to force a knock down price on the stadium from what looks like an agreed price?

    Seems somewhat mean spirited and under hand on the face of it but I may have read it wrong.
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    Could TS effectively  pick up the club he owns and build a new stadium elsewhere (for it) and leave the derelict valley and have no obligations to RD at all?  Just wondrin...
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,278
    Can't Barnsley get the council to pay for the upgrade? Works for West Ham.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,923
    ValleyOfTears said:
    Could TS effectively  pick up the club he owns and build a new stadium elsewhere (for it) and leave the derelict valley and have no obligations to RD at all?  Just wondrin...

    Yes he could. The golden ticket that is membership of the EFL is not conditional on playing at The Valley, we just need to be able to fulfill our fixtures.
    It would be cheaper to buy The Valley though, even at RD's inflated price.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,765
    iaitch said:
    Can't Barnsley get the council to pay for the upgrade? Works for West Ham.
    I think that’ll work for them once the Barnsley Olympics are out of the way 😄
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,088
    ValleyOfTears said:
    Could TS effectively  pick up the club he owns and build a new stadium elsewhere (for it) and leave the derelict valley and have no obligations to RD at all?  Just wondrin...
    I assume he has a lease agreement so would have to continue paying rent?
  • DagenhamAddick
    DagenhamAddick Posts: 468
    I think TS has a break clause at 10 years. IIRC.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    SuedeAdidas said:
    iaitch said:
    Can't Barnsley get the council to pay for the upgrade? Works for West Ham.
    I think that’ll work for them once the Barnsley Olympics are out of the way 😄
    My whippet throwing is coming along leaps and bounds.

    Unlike the whippets.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,945
    Although in an ideal world it would be lovely to get the valley back under the same ownership as the club but in real terms I'm not sure it matters greatly. City and West Ham seem to manage ok 

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  • SID
    SID Posts: 266
    AndyG said:
    Although in an ideal world it would be lovely to get the valley back under the same ownership as the club but in real terms I'm not sure it matters greatly. City and West Ham seem to manage ok 
    I think you need to compare the tenants agreements that City and especially West Ham have got to ours. 
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,714
    AndyG said:
    Although in an ideal world it would be lovely to get the valley back under the same ownership as the club but in real terms I'm not sure it matters greatly. City and West Ham seem to manage ok 
    No problem if you're City and have unlimited funds or West Ham and you're paying naff all whilst in the Premier League

    It's a different situation if your TS and looking for outside investment potential/opportunities whilst in league 1
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    AndyG said:
    Although in an ideal world it would be lovely to get the valley back under the same ownership as the club but in real terms I'm not sure it matters greatly. City and West Ham seem to manage ok 
    City and West Ham's asset owners are not Roland.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,780
    The question is: to whom does the stadium pass when RD dies? Is it owned personally by RD or held under a company name?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    jimmymelrose said:
    The question is: to whom does the stadium pass when RD dies? Is it owned personally by RD or held under a company name?
    It's owned by RD, through a number of different companies but ultimately just him. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,542
    jimmymelrose said:
    The question is: to whom does the stadium pass when RD dies? Is it owned personally by RD or held under a company name?
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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,684
    He's probably left it to Tommy Driesen.
  • Rylo
    Rylo Posts: 860
    Gribbo said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    The question is: to whom does the stadium pass when RD dies? Is it owned personally by RD or held under a company name?
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