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ECB’s “The Hundred”
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Stig said:Very interesting questions @Addick Addict. I wonder if the real things that hold state educated kids back from professional cricket are things that the 100 couldn't possibly address. Namely lack of resources, and in particular physical space. In comparison you need a lot less space and equipment to organise football lessons/matches.
But there are still schools that have the space and provide school games of cricket and plenty of talented cricketers out there who do not become part of the pathway because they are not favoured. And by that I mean this. If you have a coach at a school who is a former county cricketer then he will have direct links to the county and his opinion will be valued. Now, if that coach then offers one to one coaching to that pupil he has a vested interest in that individual's success. How does the lad who plays for a State school and whose parents can't afford one to ones and is at an unfashionable club get those same opportunities?
The link to The Hundred is that Harrison keeps using it as the vehicle that is going to bring cricket to all. Watching it possibly. On the pathway to playing it at the highest level certainly not.2 -
Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.1 -
Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!0 -
Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!
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Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!0 -
Follow the money.
Where’s the transparency in where all the money it’s bringing in to cricket is going to end up? I can’t find it. There must be a business plan and financial forecasts somewhere.2 -
Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:I mentioned previously that Sussex had 12 contracted players between the ages of 17 and 20 as opposed to Kent's two (one being Jordan Cox and the other Tawanda Muyeye who came from Sussex too).
The current Sussex CC team playing in this week's CC game has an average age of just over 20 and the following table has been tweeted by way of evidence:Apart from their incredibly youthful team, the other striking aspect of this is that this XI were all privately educated (as were Muyeye and Cox at Kent).
An incredibly small number of pro footballers are privately educated. Equally, there are far more State school recreational cricketers than there are privately educated ones. So why are more State school children not breaking through? Perhaps the ECB should be asked as to how they propose State school educated children that pay to watch The Hundred, whose parents can't afford to send their child to a private school (even with a full scholarship), can progress into County age group squads?
I think the answer lies with the relationship between not the clubs and counties but the schools and counties. Take Eastbourne College for example. The Head of Cricket there is Rob Ferley, former Kent cricketer. He is the eyes and ears of the county and has a vested interest in producing pro cricketers because the more he does that the more attractive the school becomes. I believe that Sussex have an App that is shared by them and school coaches so both can monitor the progress and work on aspects of a child's game together. When a State school doesn't even support cricket as part of their curriculum there is no such continuity. The majority of parents don't have the money to pay for all that playing cricket at county age group level entails. Clubs don't either and neither do counties such as Kent.
So does Tom Harrison, the ECB CEO, who was himself privately educated himself at Oundle School actually understand this? Or is that he has no vested interest whatsoever in changing this? The programmes such as All Stars and Dynamos that the ECB sponsor only apply to the age of 10. They also end prior to The Hundred so the interest element is lost because there is no end product available anyway."It's all a big challenge trying to capture kids' imaginations and young people's imaginations," he said. "We are competing with everything. We've had a lot of news about Fortnite recently in the news - that's the kind of competitive landscape that we're in."We've got a plan - it's called 'Inspiring Generations'. We launched it at the start of the year, [and] it's literally kicking off right now using the Ashes and the World Cup as a platform for growing the game."It's all about transforming the women's and girls' game in this country, and looking again at our schools strategy, because we're not comfortable about where we're at with schools in this country."
Harrison claimed that cricket had already enjoyed a post-World Cup bounce, highlighting strong sales in Vitality Blast tickets, and claimed that the ECB had seen "people writing in and saying 'my family have never really looked at cricket as being an option', and suddenly it's something that their kids are talking about, they want to play, they want to be part of".Despite their apparent marginalisation to open up a window for The Hundred from next year, he said that the ECB have "got to put our counties at the heart of the challenge to grow the game in this country", and to ensure "that our county clubs are filling grounds across the country more regularly and for more formats of the game".He also highlighted the role of the ECB's South Asian community programme, and said England "have got an incredibly diverse team that won the World Cup and that's playing in this Ashes Test right now" - despite the fact that ten of the side for the Edgbaston Test are white British and six were privately educated.
This interview was more than two years ago. The Hundred was and still is being touted as a vehicle to bring cricket to the masses. The masses can buy tickets but there is still no evidence whatsoever that he and the ECB have done a single thing to incentivise kids from State schools to break into the county set up. The fact that all 14 under 20 contracted players at Kent and Sussex were privately educated says it all in that respect.0 -
Cloudworm said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:I mentioned previously that Sussex had 12 contracted players between the ages of 17 and 20 as opposed to Kent's two (one being Jordan Cox and the other Tawanda Muyeye who came from Sussex too).
The current Sussex CC team playing in this week's CC game has an average age of just over 20 and the following table has been tweeted by way of evidence:Apart from their incredibly youthful team, the other striking aspect of this is that this XI were all privately educated (as were Muyeye and Cox at Kent).
An incredibly small number of pro footballers are privately educated. Equally, there are far more State school recreational cricketers than there are privately educated ones. So why are more State school children not breaking through? Perhaps the ECB should be asked as to how they propose State school educated children that pay to watch The Hundred, whose parents can't afford to send their child to a private school (even with a full scholarship), can progress into County age group squads?
I think the answer lies with the relationship between not the clubs and counties but the schools and counties. Take Eastbourne College for example. The Head of Cricket there is Rob Ferley, former Kent cricketer. He is the eyes and ears of the county and has a vested interest in producing pro cricketers because the more he does that the more attractive the school becomes. I believe that Sussex have an App that is shared by them and school coaches so both can monitor the progress and work on aspects of a child's game together. When a State school doesn't even support cricket as part of their curriculum there is no such continuity. The majority of parents don't have the money to pay for all that playing cricket at county age group level entails. Clubs don't either and neither do counties such as Kent.
So does Tom Harrison, the ECB CEO, who was himself privately educated himself at Oundle School actually understand this? Or is that he has no vested interest whatsoever in changing this? The programmes such as All Stars and Dynamos that the ECB sponsor only apply to the age of 10. They also end prior to The Hundred so the interest element is lost because there is no end product available anyway."It's all a big challenge trying to capture kids' imaginations and young people's imaginations," he said. "We are competing with everything. We've had a lot of news about Fortnite recently in the news - that's the kind of competitive landscape that we're in."We've got a plan - it's called 'Inspiring Generations'. We launched it at the start of the year, [and] it's literally kicking off right now using the Ashes and the World Cup as a platform for growing the game."It's all about transforming the women's and girls' game in this country, and looking again at our schools strategy, because we're not comfortable about where we're at with schools in this country."
Harrison claimed that cricket had already enjoyed a post-World Cup bounce, highlighting strong sales in Vitality Blast tickets, and claimed that the ECB had seen "people writing in and saying 'my family have never really looked at cricket as being an option', and suddenly it's something that their kids are talking about, they want to play, they want to be part of".Despite their apparent marginalisation to open up a window for The Hundred from next year, he said that the ECB have "got to put our counties at the heart of the challenge to grow the game in this country", and to ensure "that our county clubs are filling grounds across the country more regularly and for more formats of the game".He also highlighted the role of the ECB's South Asian community programme, and said England "have got an incredibly diverse team that won the World Cup and that's playing in this Ashes Test right now" - despite the fact that ten of the side for the Edgbaston Test are white British and six were privately educated.
This interview was more than two years ago. The Hundred was and still is being touted as a vehicle to bring cricket to the masses. The masses can buy tickets but there is still no evidence whatsoever that he and the ECB have done a single thing to incentivise kids from State schools to break into the county set up. The fact that all 14 under 20 contracted players at Kent and Sussex were privately educated says it all in that respect.0 -
Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!0 -
Callumcafc said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!0 - Sponsored links:
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I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.1 -
the one day game has always been the working man's game, how many leagues play other than one dayers ? for example ..Bradford Premier League - Wikipedia ..
the longer 'county' and 'test' version were the medium for the leisured 'gentlemen' who could afford to employ 'players' as professionals, players who usually did the bowling, the outfielding and looked after the grounds and pitches.1 -
KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.1 -
PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
All I’m pointing out is different supporters of cricket see things differently & shouldn’t just be berated just because it that.0 -
KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
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Addick Addict said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.1 -
Addick Addict said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
She attended ones she was able to live.
She actually prefers to watch sport live. She’s a Cardiff City season ticket holder & when Cardiff are away, she goes to watch Cardiff Blues in the rugby if they’re at home.
And she’s a bit like myself, likes to listen to sports on the radio, that’s how she covers any 5 day games she wants to keep up to date with. That way she can be doing something else at the same time 🤣
I honestly think the main difference between the Hundred and the Blast for her was being able to watch the women as well as the men. It was a huge driver for her getting the tickets in the first place.0 -
Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!
I don't think it's a 'damage' to the game. But I recognise that lots of people are fascinated by the statistics that cricket throws up.1 -
KBslittlesis said:PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
All I’m pointing out is different supporters of cricket see things differently & shouldn’t just be berated just because it that.
In rugby 7's, internationals are unlikely to be an international at the standard XV format (but not impossible, before someone quotes those that have played both recently)3 -
Addick Addict said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.1 - Sponsored links:
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Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!
I don't think it's a 'damage' to the game. But I recognise that lots of people are fascinated by the statistics that cricket throws up.
"So what were your figures today?" the 3rd team skipper asks the 4th team opening bowler. "8 overs, 6 maidens, 4 for 8" is the reply one might have heard pre The Hundred. Now it will be "48 balls, 38 dots, 4 for 26".
Good luck with the bowler getting the number of dot balls from Play Cricket let alone the scorer on the day of the game!!!!
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Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!
I don't think it's a 'damage' to the game. But I recognise that lots of people are fascinated by the statistics that cricket throws up.
"So what were your figures today?" the 3rd team skipper asks the 4th team opening bowler. "8 overs, 6 maidens, 4 for 8" is the reply one might have heard pre The Hundred. Now it will be "48 balls, 38 dots, 4 for 26".
Good luck with the bowler getting the number of dot balls from Play Cricket let alone the scorer on the day of the game!!!!0 -
I don't think it's being suggested that overs or maidens will be done away with in other formats.1 -
Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!
I don't think it's a 'damage' to the game. But I recognise that lots of people are fascinated by the statistics that cricket throws up.
"So what were your figures today?" the 3rd team skipper asks the 4th team opening bowler. "8 overs, 6 maidens, 4 for 8" is the reply one might have heard pre The Hundred. Now it will be "48 balls, 38 dots, 4 for 26".
Good luck with the bowler getting the number of dot balls from Play Cricket let alone the scorer on the day of the game!!!!
Jimmy Anderson's are below and his Test stats appear as
No mention whatsoever of maidensBalls 35490 Runs 16707 Wickets 630
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/james-anderson-8608
The ECB now want clubs to play The Hundred instead of T20. It would not surprise me in the least if they feed this down to the County age groups and on Play Cricket (which they own), they make the format balls rather than overs for that reason.1 -
PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
All I’m pointing out is different supporters of cricket see things differently & shouldn’t just be berated just because it that.
In rugby 7's, internationals are unlikely to be an international at the standard XV format (but not impossible, before someone quotes those that have played both recently)
Theres a huge difference between the constant comparison with the super league & franchise cricket. The supporters. There is zero appetite from most supporters for a super league in football but after being shown how good it is, there is an interest for franchise cricket.
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Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:Chizz said:Addick Addict said:There is one other thing that The Hundred has done to damage the game. There is no such thing now, so far as lifetime stats are concerned, as overs and maidens. The fact that overs are 5/10 balls long in The Hundred means that they cannot be recorded as overs. And maidens can't be shown because overs are no longer of a standard six ball duration!
In no way does this 'damage the game'. Overs will continue to be six, consecutive deliveries bowled by one bowler in a first class match a limited over match or a T20 match, until such time as that number changes again (as it has in the past).
I don't think anyone needs to worry about the recording of maiden overs in a format of cricket that has neither maidens or overs.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/tom-curran-550235
It's as if Tom Curran never bowled an over yet alone a maiden. Yet another "improvement" to that game as a result of The Hundred!
I don't think it's a 'damage' to the game. But I recognise that lots of people are fascinated by the statistics that cricket throws up.
"So what were your figures today?" the 3rd team skipper asks the 4th team opening bowler. "8 overs, 6 maidens, 4 for 8" is the reply one might have heard pre The Hundred. Now it will be "48 balls, 38 dots, 4 for 26".
Good luck with the bowler getting the number of dot balls from Play Cricket let alone the scorer on the day of the game!!!!
Jimmy Anderson's are below and his Test stats appear as
No mention whatsoever of maidensBalls 35490 Runs 16707 Wickets 630
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/james-anderson-8608
The ECB now want clubs to play The Hundred instead of T20. It would not surprise me in the least if they feed this down to the County age groups and on Play Cricket (which they own), they make the format balls rather than overs for that reason.
It's good news that the ECB want clubs to play The Hundred (with its inherent advantages in terms of time) as long as it's only at the expense of T20 matches.0 -
KBslittlesis said:PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
All I’m pointing out is different supporters of cricket see things differently & shouldn’t just be berated just because it that.
In rugby 7's, internationals are unlikely to be an international at the standard XV format (but not impossible, before someone quotes those that have played both recently)
Theres a huge difference between the constant comparison with the super league & franchise cricket. The supporters. There is zero appetite from most supporters for a super league in football but after being shown how good it is, there is an interest for franchise cricket.3 -
Cloudworm said:KBslittlesis said:PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:PrincessFiona said:KBslittlesis said:I have said I completely understand why others aren’t happy with The Hundred.
Why are you choosing to ignore that?
Interesting conversation with my Welsh Bestie (who I introduced to cricket whilst she was my boss when we both worked at Vauxhall & is now a regular at Glamorgan) her Hundred ticket money was refunded before she’d even got the email to say her tickets had been cancelled for the opening fixtures at Sophia Gardens. She believes that the ECB didn’t realise that Wales were under different lockdown restrictions to England & sold a full capacity by mistake.
She added that she wasn’t bitter about it, watched every single game on the beeb & can’t wait until next year when she’s invited me to join her (which I hope I can). She also commented on why she liked it. She was thoroughly entertained, she admitted it could have been the lack of sports with crowds but entertained none the less. And, in her words not mine, it wasn’t ‘five days wasted and still ending up with a draw’ cricket 🤷♀️Cricket needs supporters…………………all forms, all types.
All I’m pointing out is different supporters of cricket see things differently & shouldn’t just be berated just because it that.
In rugby 7's, internationals are unlikely to be an international at the standard XV format (but not impossible, before someone quotes those that have played both recently)
Theres a huge difference between the constant comparison with the super league & franchise cricket. The supporters. There is zero appetite from most supporters for a super league in football but after being shown how good it is, there is an interest for franchise cricket.
Sadly they don’t/can’t.
I don’t know the answer. I don’t know how you can keep everyone happy. But those who have enjoyed The Hundred shouldn’t be the ones at the end of those who don’t like it’s cool tongue.0 -
Some are being berated though, maybe not by you but they are.
In rugby 7's, internationals are unlikely to be an international at the standard XV format (but not impossible, before someone quotes those that have played both recently)
Theres a huge difference between the constant comparison with the super league & franchise cricket. The supporters. There is zero appetite from most supporters for a super league in football but after being shown how good it is, there is an interest for franchise cricket.0 -
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/8608.html?class=1;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings
Jimmy Anderson's are below and his Test stats appear as
No mention whatsoever of maidensBalls 35490 Runs 16707 Wickets 630
https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/james-anderson-8608
The ECB now want clubs to play The Hundred instead of T20. It would not surprise me in the least if they feed this down to the County age groups and on Play Cricket (which they own), they make the format balls rather than overs for that reason.
It's good news that the ECB want clubs to play The Hundred (with its inherent advantages in terms of time) as long as it's only at the expense of T20 matches.1