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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Did you go? Never understood what people saw in this match apart from Bret's carrying ability. 
    No I wasn't allowed!

    I love that match.  I think one of the things that influences how it's looked at is how it compares to the other WWF PPV main events up to that point.  It certainly wasn't a Hogan or Warrior style match. Every summer slam or mania up to that point had finished with one or other in the ring (although I think the main event at mania 6 was in the middle of the card?). 

    It was very different.  I think it still stands up today as a very good match, but through my teenage eyes it's a classic. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:


    29 years ago today....

    That makes me feel old. 
    I was there!!
  • Great memories of this as a 13 year old, and found this article about it quite eye opening:

    https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/bret-hart-british-bulldog-summerslam-1992/
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Would love to see a Summerslam or Wrestlemania at Wembley Stadium, but don’t think it will ever happen again unfortunately.
  • cafctom said:
    Would love to see a Summerslam or Wrestlemania at Wembley Stadium, but don’t think it will ever happen again unfortunately.
    Unfortunately I don't think it will ever happen again. 

    I remember HHH talking about it a couple of years ago & said that although it's talked about as this great event Summerslam 92 was not very successful in PPV figures due to the time difference in America. 

    Or something like that 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafctom said:
    Would love to see a Summerslam or Wrestlemania at Wembley Stadium, but don’t think it will ever happen again unfortunately.
    Unfortunately I don't think it will ever happen again. 

    I remember HHH talking about it a couple of years ago & said that although it's talked about as this great event Summerslam 92 was not very successful in PPV figures due to the time difference in America. 

    Or something like that 
    You mean the 3 day time difference between it happening and being shown :p

    It won't happen again under the current business model but who knows how that will change in 10/20/30 years time?


  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    It would take an almighty financial offer to make it worth their while.

    Somehow I don’t see a UK event being anywhere near as lucrative for them as the Saudi Arabia shows.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    cafctom said:
    It would take an almighty financial offer to make it worth their while.

    Somehow I don’t see a UK event being anywhere near as lucrative for them as the Saudi Arabia shows.
    Exactly, they could sell out Wembley again, but wouldn't make much more money than in the States... They would cream it from the Saudis again
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    The reason it was at Wembley in the first place was the European business was on fire and business was starting to dip in the US.  Mania 8 didn't draw on PPV, despite having most of the best of the 80s and 90s on the card.

    1992 had some great main event wrestling in the WWF but it wasn't drawing like Hogan and Warrior had been (who knew people like shit wrestling 🤷‍♂️)

    The WWF and wrestling in general was in a downward spiral that would not stop until the middle 1997, the wwf didn't actually start to see the uptick until 98.

    Its a shame because 92 and 97 are two of my favourite years in WWF history. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    "Kendo Nagasaki" was actually a bloke called Peter Thornley from Shropshire.
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Off_it said:
    "Kendo Nagasaki" was actually a bloke called Peter Thornley from Shropshire.
    Mr Fuji's first name was Harry..... 
  • Haven't watched wrestling for about twenty years but enjoyed the WWF and WCW as a kid in the 90s, plus also USWA and Smoky Mountain wrestling when they were on TV - anyone remember them?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Haven't watched wrestling for about twenty years but enjoyed the WWF and WCW as a kid in the 90s, plus also USWA and Smoky Mountain wrestling when they were on TV - anyone remember them?
    There is some brilliant SMW on YouTube, including the first ever Kane v Taker match, dirty white boy, Tracy Smothers, the thrill seekers, buddy v HBK for the IC belt, all the Armstrongs.  The heavenly bodies v the rock and roll.  I could go on all day. 

    Really high quality stuff :-)

    The USWA I haven't seen anywhere near as much of, apart from the original Mr McMahon promos.  Iirc it WSS originally a merger between Jerry Jarret and Frizt's promotions? 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Some SMW that is on YouTube is new jack actually wrestling and doing some very daring promos
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    McBobbin said:
    Some SMW that is on YouTube is new jack actually wrestling and doing some very daring promos
    SMW could have been much bigger if firstly WCW had released Bobby Eaton, like everyone including Bobby thought they would.  Secondly if Vince hadn't offered Flair a shed load of money and a release clause and thirdly if the Wrestling business wasn't at at 30 year low at the time. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    How do I watch last night's PPV, preferably without paying ha ha. 
  • Hurry up & watch it so we can discuss it!!😀
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Hurry up & watch it so we can discuss it!!😀
    I have read the reports, that's why I want to watch it!! 
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  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Ruby Riott will be a good addition. AEW are going places
  • McBobbin said:
    Ruby Riott will be a good addition. AEW are going places
    Big time. I think last night was a game changer in the industry 
  • Holy fuck. Just seen it, so glad i avoided the spoilers. The last ten minutes are must see.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    McBobbin said:
    Ruby Riott will be a good addition. AEW are going places
    Big time. I think last night was a game changer in the industry 
    Until it produces a stable increase in viewers it doesn't matter how good the product is (from a changing the industry pov). 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    AEW is much more mainstream than the likes of ECW ever were, and can still appeal to the "hardcore" by the quality of their product. Depends whether they can continue to find new audiences, perhaps a TV deal that have a decent reach
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    McBobbin said:
    AEW is much more mainstream than the likes of ECW ever were, and can still appeal to the "hardcore" by the quality of their product. Depends whether they can continue to find new audiences, perhaps a TV deal that have a decent reach
    The best comparison for AEW now is TNA, they were regularly doing over 2 million. 

    Saying that Smackdown and RAW were doing double what they are now so the market share for AEW is about the same as TNA.  Its just a lot smaller market.  Its quite sad that RAW, Smackdown, Dynamite and Rampage are combined doing less than RAW or Nitro used to do. 
  • How is this real life, why did WWE let 3 decent starts go to their rivals? I remember them offering the Revival a payrise to stop them leaving then decided that AEW weren't a threat. Having Danielson and Cole makes them a threat,  moreso Punk but WWE couldn't prevent that. Incredible times. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,260
    If you only watch one match from last night, I'd watch the tag match in the cage.

    The Lucha Bros, for me, are not just 2 of the best Lucha wrestlers ever, not just one of the best tag teams around, but just 2 of the best wrestlers around, period 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    edited September 2021
    Those final 10 minutes! Oh my god.

    The crowd tried to spoil the surprise and instead got swerved with Adam Cole’s debut. Absolutely brilliant. 

    Adam Cole, Daniel Bryan and CM Punk in the space of 2 and a half weeks.

    How can anyone watch 3 hours of Raw over AEW right now?!