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Adkins Out? - Match Thread
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Another point, Jackson and Euell are not the answer. We are in deep deep trouble and we can’t risk putting people with ZERO management experience in to try and save us from relegation.4
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We cant risk getting the next appointment wrong at all.J BLOCK said:Another point, Jackson and Euell are not the answer. We are in deep deep trouble and we can’t risk putting people with ZERO management experience in to try and save us from relegation.
Jackson / Euell could easily flop - But then an experienced choice is working great so far.
We can talk about Ryan Lowe (the Plymouth fans were extremely critical of him towards the end of the season, not just the 6-0 defeat against us so it feels as though he has spikes where he's doing well), or Mike Duff (who knows how he'd do at a big club)
But as I stressed before Bowyer went... there is no magic formula, anyone could work, yet anyone could equally do just as badly if not worse.1 -
Where was we when Powell got sacked and righty so bottom of the league .. let’s not forget his reaction to fans calling for his head at SheffieldRaplhMilne said:Adkins and unfortunately a tarnished by association Jackson must go. An god forbid the Curbs gang , get their way, For me ask Chris Powell to take a contract to keep us up, with this shit squad, and re- evaluate at end of season.
What did he do at Huddersfield and Southend poor manager who had one good year
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Total clear out required. JJ or JE can manage us some other time in the future, but we need a complete reset now before it is too late. TS staying off social media a good thing. A pause for proper thought hopefully…2
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The only manager out there out of work is Chris Wilder who better then what we got .. but he won’t manage any one in league one not just us …
Go for a young manager who as learnt his trade already and his ready to test himself at a bigger club
I would go for Matt Taylor at Exeter ….. former player knows the club I think he might have played with Jackson … and has done incredible job at Exeter and deserves his chance but no good bringing him in unless he given 3/4 years to do the job …0 -
There’s no doubt in my mind it’s time for NA to go, the problem is who do we bring in, nobody that’s available ie Howe or Wilder would touch us with a barge pole, up and coming managers like Ryan Lowe are doing well where they are and I suspect wouldn’t give that up to come and manage us. I’ve also seen anybody that’s been on Charlton tv mentioned as possible replacements, there’s a reason they’re on tv not on the training ground and that’s they talk well but can’t coach (well maybe Curbs can but he’s of an age gone bye pretty much like ND) that leaves us with looking at a coach who’s doing well but looking to break into management, who that might be I’ve no idea hopefully someone within the club has that knowledge but I suspect the replacement will come from within either JJ or Euelly so fingers crossed they have the answers and are not part of the problem.0
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Adkins should have gone ages ago, and he can take Jackson with him
unforTunately for Euell we need results now and we can’t risk him not hitting the ground running in management
Of who’s out there available right now, I’d take Derek McInnes.
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Adkins Out ?
The question mark has to be removed and Nigel Adkins must be sacked before our club top the bill at the Apollo.
Nigel Adkins was a two time course and distance winner in League 1. That is ancient history as Nigel Adkins side stumble from one inept performance to the next.
Thomas Sandgaard can't let Ged Roddy convince him that Adkins will turn this around to save face as it appeared to be Roddy's call to hire Nigel.
He won't improve this team, because Nigel Adkins went from having the ambition of having 25 clean sheets to playing 3 wingers!
The two are not compatible.
I felt embarrassed watching and listening to Nigel Adkins on Bromley Addicks Zoom last week.
Adkins Out before the quick sand drags our team to new depths.
Thomas Sandgaard took a hit on Ronnie Schwartz when it just didn't work out.
Thomas Sandgaard needs to take another hit with Nigel.
Adkins out should be a statement not a question.
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JJ has a 100%. Plus I understood he has been on the touchline rather than Adkins for the paint trophy games which by all reports have been pretty enjoyable3
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Adkins has 100% control of the tactics, he’ll never find a club where he has 100% control on recruitment, rarely happens now6
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would Di Canio be good enough, even for the passion!
matt Taylor at Exeter
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Plus by past appointments we've gone for experience Adkins, Slade and hasn't worked, gone for upcoming young managers Pardew, Robinson and it hasn't worked. And to the absolute unknowns in Riga, Luzon, Freaye and Bob Peters and it hasn't worked.
That's why I'd give JJ / Euell combo a go for a bit. Might not work but at least the fans will have someone to get behind.5 -
I think they should all go.
I know it's easy to say when it ain't your money, but because TS has already invested £millions, why don't he bite the bullet and get in a conventional football CEO, along with a manager and a backroom team of their choosing. If it happens sooner rather than later, there is time to make changes in January, with a view to surviving this season and making a proper bid for promotion next season.
Any other stop gap appointment would be a sideways move and just creating a problem further down the line as far as I'm concerned, when it could possibly be too late.
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Yesterday was the first time I’ve actually considered that we might get relegated.6
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I think he will be in charge Tuesday. I'd like to think lose or draw he will be sacked. But I'm also not holding My breath.0
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Adkins and Slade had years of experience. At this level it usually means bringing in someone who’s been sacked a lot.J BLOCK said:Another point, Jackson and Euell are not the answer. We are in deep deep trouble and we can’t risk putting people with ZERO management experience in to try and save us from relegation.
We can’t afford to get a second appointment wrong, and any new permanent manager is guaranteed at least 2/3 months in the job.
Why not give JJ and Euell a couple of games as caretakers and replace them if the results aren’t good enough? They might get a reaction, the squad don’t look like they’re playing for Adkins. If they don’t they can go and a new manager can bring in his own coaching team.
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Chris Hughton would be my first choice, assuming he'd be up for it.2
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I had hoped after the Fleetwood win there’ll be enough about the squad to achieve lower to mid table, but those players definitely look like League One fodder ready to fall into League Two.se9addick said:Yesterday was the first time I’ve actually considered that we might get relegated.
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I'm too used to the doom and gloom over the last 5 seasons. Now fully expecting a statement from TS saying CAFC is for sale, as he misjudged the costs of running the club.
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This is the thing that puzzles me.cabbles said:
I had hoped after the Fleetwood win there’ll be enough about the squad to achieve lower to mid table, but those players definitely look like League One fodder ready to fall into League Two.se9addick said:Yesterday was the first time I’ve actually considered that we might get relegated.
Taking the attention away from the manager for the minute, the players don't seem to be reacting to the position they're in. Not even for their own interests.
I think that when that happens, there's only one direction you're going and it ain't up.
I think it could also suggest there's something else bubbling away out of sight0 - Sponsored links:
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If he’s still here by the end of today, he’ll be here on Tuesday.3
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Bottom of the league above where we are now with 5 games in hand. Strange you pull apart someone who achieved something at our club and yet defend someone to the hilt who has us in our lowest ever league position since the 4 division structure was created.RonnieMoore said:
Where was we when Powell got sacked and righty so bottom of the league .. let’s not forget his reaction to fans calling for his head at SheffieldRaplhMilne said:Adkins and unfortunately a tarnished by association Jackson must go. An god forbid the Curbs gang , get their way, For me ask Chris Powell to take a contract to keep us up, with this shit squad, and re- evaluate at end of season.
What did he do at Huddersfield and Southend poor manager who had one good year10 -
Bowyer under Robinson was just someone that came in from the outside to help out with training sessions. He wasn't someone fully involved with the team and therefore could breathe new life when he took over less than a year later. He was assistant manager but like I said, he came in from the outside and was a new breath of life, he hasn't proceeded over the previous years of ineptitude.
Jackson and Euell have been embedded in the squad for years. If they had ideas and suggestions, they would have told the manager and been used already. Other than an increase in 'passion' temperarily, Jackson offers nothing new. He's been in the coaching team for years during our decline.
Part of the problem is the squad fitness, which Jackson as a coach is partly responsible for.
Get rid of everyone and start again. We are rotten to the core and need a complete overhaul. Stop saying 'give it to Jackson and see', we lose 5 more games and we are properly in the poo. We don't have the time on 9 points to be giving jobs to the boys because they've stuck around earning a wage for years hiding in the background.3 -
And who would you want as manager?Gribbo said:Chris Hughton would be my first choice, assuming he'd be up for it.7 -
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Give that to Hughton n all. Assuming he can still walkcafcdave123 said:
And who would you want as manager?Gribbo said:Chris Hughton would be my first choice, assuming he'd be up for it.3 -
Like I said, he came from the outside to help out. Came in with new ideas of how the team should be run.Scoham said:
Not true, Bowyer became Robinson’s assistant manager in the summer of 2017. He got involved in coaching early on that year.SELR_addicks said:Bowyer under Robinson was just someone that came in from the outside to help out with training sessions. He wasn't someone fully involved with the team and therefore could breathe new life when he took over less than a year later. He was assistant manager but like I said, he came in from the outside and was a new breathe of life, he hasn't proceeded over the previous years of ineptitude.
Jackson and Euell have been embedded in the squad for years. If they had ideas and suggestions, they would have told the manager and been used already. Other than an increase in 'passion' temperarily, Jackson offers nothing new. He's been in the coaching team for years during our decline.
Part of the problem is the squad fitness, which Jackson as a coach is partly responsible for.
Get rid of everyone and start again. We are rotten to the core and need a complete overhaul. Stop saying 'give it to Jackson and see', we lose 5 more games and we are properly in the poo. We don't have the time on 9 points to be giving jobs to the boys because they've stuck around earning a wage for years hiding in the background.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/22/karl-robinson-leaves-charlton-lee-bowyer-caretaker-manager
Euell has only recently got involved with the first team.
Jackson has been a coach for how long now? It's a different situation.0 -
I am not convinced Adkins will be sacked, TS waited too long with Bowyer last season who only went as Brum came in. He has done the same this but no one is going to be coming in for Adkins whom is a busted flush and unlikely to get another job after this.
Getting rid of JJ and Euell at the same time is a little baby/bathwater to me. Some consistency would likely be a good thing. I have no idea of the quality of either as coaches but Euell did a good job at U23s and JJ has done a good job in the handful of games he has been in charge of. Get NADs out now. See how JJ does next 2 as caretaker. Bring in new manager if he does not do well.
Whatever the outcome NADs going needs to happen today and Roddy needs to be with him. Don't want him having anything to do with this club or the appointment of a new manager any more.2 -
Said before will say it again, Adkins isnt the whole problem BUT he's not offering a solution, time to go but don't see it happening tbh.
Sandgaard will have to what, pay up 2 years(?) left on his contract, and then fund a new manager etc. I know Roddy is the big evil but this internet fact of him keeping Adkins in his job and badly advising TS to keep him is based on what? The pair of them being at reading at different times? Yeah...
If Adkins is given the chop then what are the options?
JJ and Euell as the coaching progression, might be a surprise and blow the league away, might flop massively.
Bring in a manager that will accept the set up much like Adkins did, with the transfer committee, broken box and JJ Euell on the coaching staff, can only see a desperate out of work manager accepting that sort of thing.
Looking at young up and coming managers, would love it, but, would someone like that walk away from an established job in league 1/2 to join a rigid set up in a relegation fight?
It'll probably be JJ and Euell thrown in for the remainder of the season, Sandgaard is a people pleaser and should them two fail, will he really want to be the man that sacked Jackson from the club? (Assuming the new man in doesn't want to keep them/ they're part of the staff regardless) To a lot of young and old fans, he's been Mr Charlton over these years of depression on and off the pitch.
Whether Adkins goes or not the vision and set up needs revisiting and looked, at as something somewhere has gone balls up.5 -
“We all know what football is,” said Adkins.
Well that’s a huge relief!
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