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Adkins Out? - Match Thread
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Imagine having had Dowie and Bruce as the 'face' of the team.seth plum said:Keith Peacock introduced Steve Bruce into football (I believe) at Gillingham.
Surely Bruce would not move down here.1 -
Forest were bottom, acted quick;
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Gribbo said:
If I was Sandgaard; I'd get a small posse together of about 4 to 5, to include Curbs, Brown etc etc, for the sole purpose of recruiting a new manager and CEO.killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Then pump the rest ASAP
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If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Something like this:
1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
2. Identify Attendees
3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results.
6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose
Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.
The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly.
Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:
Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?
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Seeing as his wife is there with him I can’t believe it was any kind of serious business meeting. Such as sacking Adkins.Airman Brown said:
Looks like Keohane to me, which tallies with information that Sandgaard listens to him. Utterly ridiculous.charlton_hero said:
I mean I don’t know if she actually is an active part of his business empire but fucks sake, at our board meeting this morning I didn’t rock up to kick things off with “but before we start, here’s my missus to outline the following key points…… “Damo please fix the fucking fence panel I have been asking you to do for ages, did you remember it’s your dads birthday next week, and by the way I’m out with the girls on Friday so you need to put the kids to bed”
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Pearce.Dazzler21 said:
If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Something like this:
1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
2. Identify Attendees
3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results.
6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose
Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.
The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly.
Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:
Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?1 -
Cheers, thought he was still technically, but couldn't remember.ricky_otto said:
Pearce.Dazzler21 said:
If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Something like this:
1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
2. Identify Attendees
3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results.
6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose
Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.
The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly.
Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:
Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?0 -
If he was going to go, it would have been announced by now.
He will be in charge at Sunderland.. can't wait0 -
Several of those are likely to be part of the problem thoughDazzler21 said:
If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Something like this:
1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
2. Identify Attendees
3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results.
6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose
Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.
The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly.
Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:
Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?
The likes of Roddy, Adkins and even Jacko are hardly likely to tell Sandgaard that they're doing a crap job as individuals
Pearce is I think the club captain. He alone should be able to tell Sandgaard what training is like, what the dressing room atmosphere is like etc. Whether Adkins is the problem, or indeed whether Jacko and Euell are part of the problem as well0 -
Unbelievable.Addick_8 said:If he was going to go, it would have been announced by now.
He will be in charge at Sunderland.. can't wait0 - Sponsored links:
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This isn’t a Sue Parkes scenario. Thomas can involve who he likes and I’d expect her to have as much influence over him as any of Roddy, Keohane etc. Probably more use too.DamoNorthStand said:
Seeing as his wife is there with him I can’t believe it was any kind of serious business meeting. Such as sacking Adkins.Airman Brown said:
Looks like Keohane to me, which tallies with information that Sandgaard listens to him. Utterly ridiculous.charlton_hero said:
I mean I don’t know if she actually is an active part of his business empire but fucks sake, at our board meeting this morning I didn’t rock up to kick things off with “but before we start, here’s my missus to outline the following key points…… “Damo please fix the fucking fence panel I have been asking you to do for ages, did you remember it’s your dads birthday next week, and by the way I’m out with the girls on Friday so you need to put the kids to bed”8 -
We're getting dicked at Sunderland no matter who is in charge. They have finally found their season IMO. (Though didn't they concede two to Marquis recently?!)Addick_8 said:If he was going to go, it would have been announced by now.
He will be in charge at Sunderland.. can't wait1 -
Anyone starting to realise that nige isn’t getting sacked7
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Just come off a Management Course?Dazzler21 said:
If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Something like this:
1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
2. Identify Attendees
3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results.
6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose
Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.
The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly.
Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:
Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?
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Yep hes here for Saturday0
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yeah, I'm stating to think him getting lost on one of his walks is the best we can hope forTodds_right_hook said:Anyone starting to realise that nige isn’t getting sacked1 -
Jason Pearce looks as if he is backing Nigel
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Only because he knows he’s done as well.3
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Its bizarre, Sandgaard came over, watched the game, saw us get beat by Accrington Stanley at home, seen one of the worst first half performances in years, and thinks to himself "yep Ive got the dream team in charge!". WTF dude!4
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OR that's a message in support of the players?Addick_8 said:Jason Pearce looks as if he is backing Nigel13 - Sponsored links:
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Disagree…..we deserved a point and were unlucky not to get one, despite a somewhat fractured performance.Todds_right_hook said:
No,no, no, no!RonnieMoore said:
Second half we deserved a point .. to be honest showed what we can doCH4RLTON said:God this thread has become more toxic than the much fabled takeover thread, fish puns anyone to lighten the mood?
second half, we showed some attacking intent and maybe stockley and Davisson could have scored but for goal line clearances but we are still a shambles at the back and the two chances I’ve mentioned above were cancelled out by saves by our keeper.We got what we deserved. 0 points.3 -
Addick_8 said:Jason Pearce looks as if he is backing Nigel
Could be taken as a dig in that NA has disciplined someone when they need confidence. Could be backing NA or could be he likes the quote and nothing more.
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I work in change management.charente addick said:
Just come off a Management Course?Dazzler21 said:
If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).killerandflash said:If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
Something like this:
1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
2. Identify Attendees
3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results.
6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose
Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.
The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly.
Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:
Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?
I can assure you our current change management processes have not been good enough and if we, the fans can see that from outside... that's dire.2 -
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Is that supposed to be witty…..FFS!killerandflash said:
Was it Sue Parkes, furious that Thomas had taken the last sausage roll, only leaving her the curly sandwiches?Sillybilly said:
According to my mate who was a sponsors guest tonight and was on the next table, Sandgaard got his ear bent very quickly after picking up a sausage roll post match so beat a hasty retreat. Presumably just looking for a bit of respite in the boardroom.Gribbo said:Doubt very much that TS would take his Mrs in to the room while he sacks someone, so are they just having a bit of an informal chat about ways to improve? Hope not0 -
Pearce should have a look at the league table…Addick_8 said:Jason Pearce looks as if he is backing Nigel6 -
It would have been daylight robbery if we nicked a point. Remember Pell's second free kick crossed the line so we were lucky to go in at HT level.SoundAsa£ said:
Disagree…..we deserved a point and were unlucky not to get one, despite a somewhat fractured performance.Todds_right_hook said:
No,no, no, no!RonnieMoore said:
Second half we deserved a point .. to be honest showed what we can doCH4RLTON said:God this thread has become more toxic than the much fabled takeover thread, fish puns anyone to lighten the mood?
second half, we showed some attacking intent and maybe stockley and Davisson could have scored but for goal line clearances but we are still a shambles at the back and the two chances I’ve mentioned above were cancelled out by saves by our keeper.We got what we deserved. 0 points.1 -
Sorry Jason.
The piling on as you call it has followed an age of welcome and optimism, indeed even at a time when things were a bit dodgy originally.
What encouragement does he expect?
That we urge on even more defeats and misery with love for those perpetrators who dish it out to us.
Be very Christian, turn the other cheek and say hit me again?
Exercise Orwellian doublethink that says ‘defeat is victory’?0 -
And we could easily have been down to 10 men as well. We got what we deserved last night - nothing.CAFCTrev said:
It would have been daylight robbery if we nicked a point. Remember Pell's second free kick crossed the line so we were lucky to go in at HT level.SoundAsa£ said:
Disagree…..we deserved a point and were unlucky not to get one, despite a somewhat fractured performance.Todds_right_hook said:
No,no, no, no!RonnieMoore said:
Second half we deserved a point .. to be honest showed what we can doCH4RLTON said:God this thread has become more toxic than the much fabled takeover thread, fish puns anyone to lighten the mood?
second half, we showed some attacking intent and maybe stockley and Davisson could have scored but for goal line clearances but we are still a shambles at the back and the two chances I’ve mentioned above were cancelled out by saves by our keeper.We got what we deserved. 0 points.2
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