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Adkins Out? - Match Thread
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Well said. Great postNotts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.0 -
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For the love of God, do something!!!!!1
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Must know Silva is in line for Charlton hotseatCallumcafc said:Wilder watching Fulham v Cardiff tonight.
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Great stuff @soapboxsam I've recognised in the only way that’s truly fitting, by removing another one of @Henry Irving promotes :-)
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Yeah, but Ali ..... be reasonable.aliwibble said:
One of which was in the Papa Johns Trophy against Southampton U23. That hardly counts.RonnieMoore said:
But we went in the break on the back of two wins ??killerandflash said:
The international break would have been perfect for the new person to work with the playersgolfaddick said:
This.Phil said:Adkins should, of course, have gone weeks ago. The obvious time to get rid was the international break. The win just before it fooled nobody.
This ongoing delay and uncertainty helps no one especially with an away game so far away.
The last 2 defeats could & probably would gave been avoided if Adkins had gone during the International. It would have given the new manager time to instill done basics into the players.
As Boris said.......more dither & delay.
Alternatively, if TS and Roddy felt Nigel deserved more time to work with the players, then the Lincoln game should have been the final straw, as after 2 weeks of work, we got worse
If Nigel had been removed by Adkins, even just from new manager bounce, I'm sure Jacko or Euell as caretakers would have got something from last night
We're clutching at straws here.
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Cheers mate. Means a otAFKABartram said:
Hopefully it’s not felt on here mirrors that. I like to think that generally there’s always an undercurrent of humour with it all. Some things today have really made me chuckleRedmidland said:The vitriol and personal abuse is uncalled for, and saddens me. I stupidly thought Charlton fans were better than that.
Yes it's time for Nigel to go, it didn't work out, that happens sometimes, but really some of the stuff being said is just plain wrong, shame on them.1 -
I disagree,. You 3 are part of the problem, making excuses for a clueless idiot who in 3 months has set us back 2 years.Webbja77 said:
Likewise.. great postdickad1 said:
Well said, great post! Sums up my own feelings much better than I could have expressed them.Notts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.
I despair of you happy clappers. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are in a relegation dog fight FFS.2 - Sponsored links:
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Your posts are always worth a ookGribbo said:
Cheers mate. Means a otAFKABartram said:
Hopefully it’s not felt on here mirrors that. I like to think that generally there’s always an undercurrent of humour with it all. Some things today have really made me chuckleRedmidland said:The vitriol and personal abuse is uncalled for, and saddens me. I stupidly thought Charlton fans were better than that.
Yes it's time for Nigel to go, it didn't work out, that happens sometimes, but really some of the stuff being said is just plain wrong, shame on them.3 -
Happy tears 😹AFKABartram said:
Your posts are always worth a ookGribbo said:
Cheers mate. Means a otAFKABartram said:
Hopefully it’s not felt on here mirrors that. I like to think that generally there’s always an undercurrent of humour with it all. Some things today have really made me chuckleRedmidland said:The vitriol and personal abuse is uncalled for, and saddens me. I stupidly thought Charlton fans were better than that.
Yes it's time for Nigel to go, it didn't work out, that happens sometimes, but really some of the stuff being said is just plain wrong, shame on them.0 -
Well, okay ..... let's just say at the time Dick Tydeman was the nearest we had to a midfield creative genius in the team.Lordflashheart said:
Tydeman was your hero ???Oggy Red said:
Dick Tydeman!Hovi's Biscuit said:DaveMehmet said:
Dick picscafcdave123 said:
What’s being put on social media?Valley11 said:It’s absolutely right that he’s let go.But some of the stuff being put out on social media is out of order.
He’s a decent human being, just not a very good football manager.
People have such a blood lust.
He was my hero 40-odd years ago!Strange choice, but each to their own !!!
Imagine Claus Jensen with one leg, no pace but still able to occasionally make the killer pass. That was our Dick.
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As the man in front of me on the East Terrace once said: “Stretch your legs Tidman!!”Oggy Red said:
Dick Tydeman!Hovi's Biscuit said:DaveMehmet said:
Dick picscafcdave123 said:
What’s being put on social media?Valley11 said:It’s absolutely right that he’s let go.But some of the stuff being put out on social media is out of order.
He’s a decent human being, just not a very good football manager.
People have such a blood lust.
He was my hero 40-odd years ago!1 -
It is possible to see the need for a change while having empathy and respect for the person in question. It's not a binary thing!bolloxbolder said:
I disagree,. You 3 are part of the problem, making excuses for a clueless idiot who in 3 months has set us back 2 years.Webbja77 said:
Likewise.. great postdickad1 said:
Well said, great post! Sums up my own feelings much better than I could have expressed them.Notts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.
I despair of you happy clappers. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are in a relegation dog fight FFS.27 -
After Tydeman retired he joined my company and I trained him, he was the nicest person you could imagine, and a half decent midfielder14
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Well said. It is high time the role of these three working tirelessly behind the scenes to undermine our once great club was exposed. #theenemywithinbolloxbolder said:
I disagree,. You 3 are part of the problem, making excuses for a clueless idiot who in 3 months has set us back 2 years.Webbja77 said:
Likewise.. great postdickad1 said:
Well said, great post! Sums up my own feelings much better than I could have expressed them.Notts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.
I despair of you happy clappers. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are in a relegation dog fight FFS.10 -
Redmidland said:After Before Tydeman retired he joined my company and I trained him, he was the nicest person you could imagine, and a half decent midfielder
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Dude, grow up. Literally no one saying he should not go, just sympathising with him as a person. That's not remotely happy-clappy.bolloxbolder said:
I disagree,. You 3 are part of the problem, making excuses for a clueless idiot who in 3 months has set us back 2 years.Webbja77 said:
Likewise.. great postdickad1 said:
Well said, great post! Sums up my own feelings much better than I could have expressed them.Notts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.
I despair of you happy clappers. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are in a relegation dog fight FFS.20 -
If there is a God, he'll be offered the Newcastle United job....4
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Surely an omnipotent supreme being wouldn't need to wait to be offered the job if he wanted it?NornIrishAddick said:If there is a God, he'll be offered the Newcastle United job....
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Shearer’s been there, done that and got the T shirt 😉.NornIrishAddick said:If there is a God, he'll be offered the Newcastle United job....0 -
Tydeman was and will always be my favourite Charlton player.Oggy Red said:
Well, okay ..... let's just say at the time Dick Tydeman was the nearest we had to a midfield creative genius in the team.Lordflashheart said:
Tydeman was your hero ???Oggy Red said:
Dick Tydeman!Hovi's Biscuit said:DaveMehmet said:
Dick picscafcdave123 said:
What’s being put on social media?Valley11 said:It’s absolutely right that he’s let go.But some of the stuff being put out on social media is out of order.
He’s a decent human being, just not a very good football manager.
People have such a blood lust.
He was my hero 40-odd years ago!Strange choice, but each to their own !!!
Imagine Claus Jensen with one leg, no pace but still able to occasionally make the killer pass. That was our Dick.3 -
Can someone provide a quick summary of those on the other side of the world who've just woken up ... has he gone ?2
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If he is that good a man then perhaps he should walk, the only thing he seems good at, rather than wait to be pushed! The abuse he seems to be getting on social media is unacceptable but chants at a football ground when his ineptitude is clear for all to see is part and parcel of being a failed manager. If he can't accept that then a career change is needed if in fact he does need another job after this one.dickad1 said:
Well said, great post! Sums up my own feelings much better than I could have expressed them.Notts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.1 -
Remember Dick Tydeman. Always came across as being very perceptive of what needed to be done to split the defence, but sometimes the touch was too light, or he gave it too much wellie. Yet when it worked, sheer magic. Always tried to give 100%, and played for the shirt. Hero? Yes, in as much he was a hero amongst heroes at the time! Far cry from.....Solidgone said:
Tydeman was and will always be my favourite Charlton player.Oggy Red said:
Well, okay ..... let's just say at the time Dick Tydeman was the nearest we had to a midfield creative genius in the team.Lordflashheart said:
Tydeman was your hero ???Oggy Red said:
Dick Tydeman!Hovi's Biscuit said:DaveMehmet said:
Dick picscafcdave123 said:
What’s being put on social media?Valley11 said:It’s absolutely right that he’s let go.But some of the stuff being put out on social media is out of order.
He’s a decent human being, just not a very good football manager.
People have such a blood lust.
He was my hero 40-odd years ago!Strange choice, but each to their own !!!
Imagine Claus Jensen with one leg, no pace but still able to occasionally make the killer pass. That was our Dick.2 -
People misunderstanding what the fan advisor is there to do… not at all surprised by that.9
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Top stuff thatcabbles said:Scott Minto ‘right, we’ve got AFKA coming to join us. AFKA, thanks for joining us, talk us through the Adkins out match thread. It was a bright start but what happened after that?’
AFKA ‘yes, as you say Scott, a decent start and we had hope with 3 or 4 posters claiming they’d heard the news he was gone, and we bouyant’
Scott Minto ‘yes, there were a flurry of posts from about 4.30pm and about 800 online, and there was a bold call, with some thinking it might be 5pm for an announcement’
AFKA ‘That’s what we read Scott and I myself even posted something saying I’m glad the end was in sight. ButtleJr has been right in the past with inside information and then 2 or 3 other posters chimed in and we thought, yep, why not 5pm’
Scott Minto ‘well, 5 pm came and went, some were still confident that by 6 it would be done and dusted, but a few nerves started to enter the thread, most notably dazzler21, what happened with Dazzler?’
AFKA ‘to be honest Scott, I’m not sure. I had to drop off and take a look at Henry Irving’s promotes and see if there were any I could remove, the next thing I know, I open up the thread again, and Dazzler has invented a couple of kids and Ricky Otto is saying he’s losing the plot in Tesco’
Scott Minto ‘that seemed to start a trail of apprehension among the thread and before we know it, 6pm has come and gone and ButtleJR is having to backtrack.’
AFKA ‘ButtleJR is a confident lad, but once the memes came out and the minutes ticked by, it didn’t look good. We were waiting on Twitter updates and then we saw it’
Scott Minto ‘Yes, the tweet from Louis Mendez. The final nail in the coffin. Nothing would happen tonight and the thread would have to stand down.’
AFKA ‘we trust Louis and it was disappointing, but we’ve sat through similar types of disappointment before. We had transfer deadline day in 2020 with Matt Southall and all the expected signings, and we got David Davis and one of the Matt Smith’s. We’ll bounce back, there’s a spirit on this forum and sense of togetherness and we’ll wait and see when we log back on tomorrow’
Scott Minto ‘You sound a bit like Nigel Adkins there AFKA’
AFKA ‘no I don’t’
Scott Minto ‘Do you think he’ll still be in charge on Saturday for the trip to Sunderland?’
AFKA ‘I think he’ll be gone Scott and I believe in this forum. We’ll log off, we’ll regroup and I look forward to tomorrow. We’re a strong unit’
Scott Minto ‘AFKA, thank you’5 -
Clarky said:
If he is that good a man then perhaps he should walk, the only thing he seems good at, rather than wait to be pushed! The abuse he seems to be getting on social media is unacceptable but chants at a football ground when his ineptitude is clear for all to see is part and parcel of being a failed manager. If he can't accept that then a career change is needed if in fact he does need another job after this one.dickad1 said:
Well said, great post! Sums up my own feelings much better than I could have expressed them.Notts_Addick said:Everything I have ever read about Adkins points to him being a good man. He has clearly come to the club wanting to achieve success and for whatever reason that unfortunately has not happened. I am sure nobody is more gutted about that than him. I am sure his pay off will be a substantial sum however I doubt it is anything he is going to be able to retire on and he will clearly have to find work elsewhere with his reputation significantly weakened to what it was when he took us over.
I know football managers are paid good money and it perhaps comes with the territory however it must have been a very lonely few weeks for him. I personally cannot think of anything worse than being stood in the middle of a football stadium with thousands of fans chanting about your impending demise, I have been in a job before where I've known I'm in over my head and its a terrible feeling. It must be even worse when your failure is in the public spotlight, either in your place of work like it has been for Adkins and all over the Internet as well.
I have posted myself over the last few weeks that a change is probably needed however I must admit the very public lynching of managers does make me a little uncomfortable, I am not just talking about Adkins but in general. I've been guilty of it myself and its easy to do as almost all of our collective loyalty is to our club and not the manager and results for our club have been really poor this season.
If Adkins does go which looks likely then he will go with my best wishes. Sometimes things work out in life and sometimes they don't. I am sure he has tried his best and will be as disappointed as us that it has not worked out as he planned. Nobody takes a job with the intention of not succeeding.
Well perhaps although I would hedge a bet that no matter how nice a guy someone is they are unlikely to walk away from a job knowing they are due a payoff. Especially in such an uncertain climate as football, who can say when he will find another job?
It is never nice not succeeding in your line of work, that's the same whether you earn £9 an hour or £90 an hour. Has NA succeeded in this job so far? I think even he would say no. Has he given it his best shot? I'm sure he has and I've heard nothing to suggest he's skiving training or sat watching netflix in his office.
It's rubbish not doing well at a job, take that from me I've been there. It was irrelevant how much I was recompensed because no amount of money made the feeling of not succeeding any better. It's a horrible, lonely place to be. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I cannot imagine what it would have been like in front of a national audience.
As I said before I have not seen anything portraying NA as anything other than a good person. His morning videos might not be my cup of tea but they are clearly about injecting some positivity into people's lives and trying to improve people's mental health. He doesn't have to do them, and people don't have to like them and I understood the gentle mocking he got for them and I'm sure he knew they'd be open to ridicule as well. But using them as some form of stick to beat and mock him with as he stares down the barrel of the sack feels a little unfair.
As others have said people can want a change of direction at the club and still respect that a man has tried his best and wish him well. Being branded a failure, useless, inept etc i imagine hurts regardless of whether you are on 20k a year or 250k a year.
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