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The Space Thread
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It’s a planet, but really far, far away!eaststandmike said:
Okay I give up, is it a star or a planet?Stuart_the_Red said:.1 -
The hawking theory about black holes is the most profound and enlightening thing I’ve ever heard. If you can get your head round it then if black holes absorb energy and have a temperature then they decay and information goes somewhere. New universe?0
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It's big. Very very big.0
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When they say the universe is expanding, I always think about the space it expands into ... what's that like?
I've read this explanation but by brain hasn't got the necessary cells to comprehend.
The expansion of the universe is the increase in distance between any two given gravitationally unbound parts of the observable universe with time. It is an intrinsic expansion whereby the scale of space itself changes. The universe does not expand "into" anything and does not require space to exist "outside" it.
Anyway, I still struggle with filling spaces on the football field 442, 343, 5 across the middle? I'll deal with this first before I move on to the Cosmos.
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You never know, there might be someone, or some thing, out there that knows when to use "its" and when to use "it's".sam3110 said:Space is extraordinarily fascinating, terrifying, awestricking and bewildering at all once.
Show me someone who truly believes that in that impossibly vast, completely unfathomably, infinitely varied universe, filled with trillions upon trillions of stars, each with their own planets and each planet with it's own ecosystem, atmosphere and resources, that we are alone and no other life exists, and I'll show you a fool1 -
Thank you, Donald Rumsfeld.bobmunro said:
We know very little, but we know a lot about what we don't know!Dave2l said:bobmunro said:Ross said:The fact we know more about space than we do about what’s under our own oceans both intrigues me and terrifies me at the same time…Do we?We know very, very little about the universe.
Dark matter and dark energy.
We still don't have an answer and probably never will.
Dark energy is basically just an opposing force of gravity, where the net force certainly doesn't equate to 01 -
I've been into astronomy for as long as I can remember.
I was amazed when they found the tenth moon of Saturn in 1967, all the books at the time saying Jupiter had twelve, Saturn nine, etc. and none of them contemplating the idea that that was all we knew about and more could be found - rather strange seeing as we'd been finding more and more moons around the planets for years, but back then there seemed to be this conceit that we'd found them all. That was quite a profound moment, realising that what was written down or 'known' wasn't immutable.
I can still recall the shock of the disasters that befell the two Space Shuttles, Challenger and Columbia. Yes, rockets had blown up before but the Space Shuttle seemed to be the apotheosis of space ship design and I felt a deep sense of loss watching them come apart. One of Richard Feynman's books goes into detail about how appalling the standards actually were on the Shuttle programme and Steve Buscemi's character, Rockhound, sums it up pretty well in Armageddon: "You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, ... and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder.".
If you don't live somewhere where the skies are really, really dark at night, you're missing out on quite a sight. We went to stay at the top of a mountain in Morocco a few years ago and with no street lights and the few buildings having no lights on, the view of the stars was simply amazing.5 -
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Has that motor found anything on Mars yet?0 -
What about your predictions for the future? For me:
Next manned Moon landing 2025
Human lands on Mars 2038.0 - Sponsored links:
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Chinese try to beat the US to either one.CharltonMadrid said:What about your predictions for the future? For me:
Next manned Moon landing 2025
Human lands on Mars 2038.1 -
The Chinese will get there first.AddicksAddict said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Chinese try to beat the US to either one.CharltonMadrid said:What about your predictions for the future? For me:
Next manned Moon landing 2025
Human lands on Mars 2038.0 -
Cornwall soon to enter the space race with a horizontal launch solution. Not sure I like the sound of that.
https://spaceportcornwall.com/
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We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.0 -
Mmmmm that might explain some MOD activity that is happening in Watergate Bay what sits just below Newquay Airport. We were in Cornwall last week and we considered staying in an apartment in Watergate Bay however the letting agent said we must be prepared for some disturbance from the MOD who have set up a site in the large hillside car park.Raith_C_Chattonell said:Cornwall soon to enter the space race with a horizontal launch solution. Not sure I like the sound of that.
https://spaceportcornwall.com/
We did see the set up when we went to Watergate Bay and it looked very strange.1 -
Let's hope that they point the bloody thing in the right direction...Raith_C_Chattonell said:Cornwall soon to enter the space race with a horizontal launch solution. Not sure I like the sound of that.
https://spaceportcornwall.com/0 -
That's a 'car'.Raith_C_Chattonell said:Cornwall soon to enter the space race with a horizontal launch solution. Not sure I like the sound of that.2 -
Not if it's SouthallSomervilleAddick said:
We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.2 -
SomervilleAddick said:
We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.
It's a suicide mission anyway. They would have to accept there's no return.
I'm sure they will be mentally and physically trained to the core, but I doubt it would be enough.
Most likely to be an absolutely overwhelming experience and they will be going insane.
The human body will not be able to adapt quick enough and it will struggle to cope.
After a few weeks, they will all probably want to die
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Maggie A-P is superb. And to think that as a kid she was inspired to do what she has by The Clangers.Bournemouth Addick said:I don't profess to understand it all but love all the stuff that Brian Cox, Jim Al-Khalili, Maggie Aderin-Pocock, etc. do for the BBC. Astronomy is on my list to find out more about when I eventually get to retire.
The leaps in video technology have made it so much more accessible than it was when I was a kid.0 - Sponsored links:
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Conceptually it takes quite a bit to get your head around. I’m not great on physics, but given that Mars has less gravitational force than earth, would there not be a chance of providing the rocket/transport with the necessary capabilities to get back?Dave2l said:SomervilleAddick said:
We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.
It's a suicide mission anyway. They would have to accept there's no return.
I'm sure they will be mentally and physically trained to the core, but I doubt it would be enough.
Most likely to be an absolutely overwhelming experience and they will be going insane.
The human body will not be able to adapt quick enough and it will struggle to cope.
After a few weeks, they will all probably want to die
I would be surprised if space agencies haven’t already thought this through and it is possible0 -
cabbles said:
Conceptually it takes quite a bit to get your head around. I’m not great on physics, but given that Mars has less gravitational force than earth, would there not be a chance of providing the rocket/transport with the necessary capabilities to get back?Dave2l said:SomervilleAddick said:
We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.
It's a suicide mission anyway. They would have to accept there's no return.
I'm sure they will be mentally and physically trained to the core, but I doubt it would be enough.
Most likely to be an absolutely overwhelming experience and they will be going insane.
The human body will not be able to adapt quick enough and it will struggle to cope.
After a few weeks, they will all probably want to die
I would be surprised if space agencies haven’t already thought this through and it is possible
They probably have,
I think it would be a lot easier for them to adapt if it was a gradual process.
2-4 years travelling to mars will cause their bodies a lot of long term damage.
I think the skeletal structure relies on earth's gravity.
Basically, they will rapidly evolve into aliens!
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It makes more sense to send Robots to Mars than humans.0
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MuttleyCAFC said:It makes more sense to send Robots to Mars than humans.
Imagine if you said that at an elon musk, Jeff bezos and friends boardroom meeting.
They all go silent, look at each other and just nod their heads. Followed with a...
"Why the f*ck didn't we think of that?"
Extreme intelligent robot Mars population - is the way forward.
The goal and ambition will be for the robots, is to make the atmosphere denser but with more oxygen.
Release those greenhouse gases...plant trees, build storage space, mine for water traces and search for water vapour in the atmosphere.
But most importantly, name a few of the robots Dave, call one of them sir Chris Powell, and give a few robots some nice tits.0 -
The robot idea does make more sense. Would be good if they were still bipedal and had that irobot Hollywood film sort of intelligence0
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Are you talking about going to Mars or Charlton?Dave2l said:SomervilleAddick said:
We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.
It's a suicide mission anyway. They would have to accept there's no return.
I'm sure they will be mentally and physically trained to the core, but I doubt it would be enough.
Most likely to be an absolutely overwhelming experience and they will be going insane.
The human body will not be able to adapt quick enough and it will struggle to cope.
After a few weeks, they will all probably want to die3 -
Yes, it would be good until they declare war on us!Dave2l said:The robot idea does make more sense. Would be good if they were still bipedal and had that irobot Hollywood film sort of intelligence
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Yes, good points.Dave2l said:cabbles said:
Conceptually it takes quite a bit to get your head around. I’m not great on physics, but given that Mars has less gravitational force than earth, would there not be a chance of providing the rocket/transport with the necessary capabilities to get back?Dave2l said:SomervilleAddick said:
We could probably put a man on Mars now. Getting him back is the problem.CharltonMadrid said:If all the spacefaring nations worked together we could probably put a human on Mars in the next ten to twenty years. However competition itself seems to drive space exploration just like it did in the time of empires. Either way it would be incredible to see in our lifetimes.
It's a suicide mission anyway. They would have to accept there's no return.
I'm sure they will be mentally and physically trained to the core, but I doubt it would be enough.
Most likely to be an absolutely overwhelming experience and they will be going insane.
The human body will not be able to adapt quick enough and it will struggle to cope.
After a few weeks, they will all probably want to die
I would be surprised if space agencies haven’t already thought this through and it is possible
They probably have,
I think it would be a lot easier for them to adapt if it was a gradual process.
2-4 years travelling to mars will cause their bodies a lot of long term damage.
I think the skeletal structure relies on earth's gravity.
Basically, they will rapidly evolve into aliens!
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This was my first thought..... I've watched too much Sci Fi!MuttleyCAFC said:
Yes, it would be good until they declare war on us!Dave2l said:The robot idea does make more sense. Would be good if they were still bipedal and had that irobot Hollywood film sort of intelligence0 -
The interest for space is fairly new on me too.Bournemouth Addick said:I don't profess to understand it all but love all the stuff that Brian Cox, Jim Al-Khalili, Maggie Aderin-Pocock, etc. do for the BBC. Astronomy is on my list to find out more about when I eventually get to retire.
The leaps in video technology have made it so much more accessible than it was when I was a kid.
Brian Cox is in Auckland in Feb and I’ve got a ticket.
Just can’t make the same mistake as when I went to see Richard Dawson a few years ago. Having 5-6 pints prior to the show spoiled it. Couldn’t focus on his deep conversations.1
