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Charlie Kirk (p68 - released by Barrow)

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Not enough aggression for me in any of his play. Also never seen him kick the ball more than 20 metres. Good luck to him getting a move back up North and in the Championship.
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Slow, no tricks, can't hit the ball very hard (generally an asset you want as a footballer), no left foot, can't head it, doesn't work hard. 
    This is not someone we want to change our system for him to fit in for. Not the lads fault but we should never have bought him in the first place. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    se9addick said:
    Very surprised we’ve included the option to make the deal permanent. If he does well at Blackpool surely we’ll want him back, and if he doesn’t they won’t want him anyway?
    I think it's a deal that works well for Blackpool. If he does well then they won't want to be competing against other teams to make him permanent so they'll have first refusal, and that works for us too to encourage them to complete the deal. If he doesn't do well then no-one's buying him anyway and we're stuck regardless. I don't think there's any way back for Kirk now, and I don't think we've ever seen a pplayer for Charlton come back from being in this sort of situation
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    A dud for us, maybe he'll go on and do well for Blackpool but it wasn't happening here with us good move for all parties 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    se9addick said:
    Very surprised we’ve included the option to make the deal permanent. If he does well at Blackpool surely we’ll want him back, and if he doesn’t they won’t want him anyway?
    I think it's a deal that works well for Blackpool. If he does well then they won't want to be competing against other teams to make him permanent so they'll have first refusal, and that works for us too to encourage them to complete the deal. If he doesn't do well then no-one's buying him anyway and we're stuck regardless. I don't think there's any way back for Kirk now, and I don't think we've ever seen a pplayer for Charlton come back from being in this sort of situation
    Naby?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    aliwibble said:
    se9addick said:
    Very surprised we’ve included the option to make the deal permanent. If he does well at Blackpool surely we’ll want him back, and if he doesn’t they won’t want him anyway?
    I think it's a deal that works well for Blackpool. If he does well then they won't want to be competing against other teams to make him permanent so they'll have first refusal, and that works for us too to encourage them to complete the deal. If he doesn't do well then no-one's buying him anyway and we're stuck regardless. I don't think there's any way back for Kirk now, and I don't think we've ever seen a pplayer for Charlton come back from being in this sort of situation
    Naby?
    That's a fair one, though it did take us dropping down a league and he still never really established himself as first choice. We'll always have the memories though
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,146
    Good move all round, he didn't fit in and didn't settle, so time to move on.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Imagine having a manager who brings players in to fit his system of playing......instead of just signing players & then trying to shoehorn them into your team. 

    One day Rodders, one day.....
    That’s exactly why we’ve got rid of Charlie Kirk and brought in Castillo and John.
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,098
    Reminds me of Maddison in a way! 
    There is a good player in there!
    must be our most expensive signing in years ??
  • se9addick said:
    Very surprised we’ve included the option to make the deal permanent. If he does well at Blackpool surely we’ll want him back, and if he doesn’t they won’t want him anyway?
    I imagine Blackpool may have insisted on the option to buy?
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I want him to be brilliant for Blackpool, brilliant.
    The reason is pretty obvious.
    C’mon Charlie, six goals before the end of the season, and ten assists please.
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    Not having all this "didn't get a chance" nonsense.

    We're talking about a bloke who looked out of his depth against Havant & Waterlooville.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    Oh my days!!!

    Just cottoned on.  Has he really gone? Devastated, a bonafied legend, a great miss.  This season cannot get worse!

    (Brought to you by The Institute of Terminal Sarcasm, or TITS for short)
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Imagine having a manager who brings players in to fit his system of playing......instead of just signing players & then trying to shoehorn them into your team. 

    One day Rodders, one day.....
    Rodders has gone, Golfie!
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Belv said:
    Not having all this "didn't get a chance" nonsense.

    We're talking about a bloke who looked out of his depth against Havant & Waterlooville.
    Finally, someone saying it how it is.
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    Belv said:
    Not having all this "didn't get a chance" nonsense.

    We're talking about a bloke who looked out of his depth against Havant & Waterlooville.
    Wasn't  that the game where he went outside  the full back and put in a peach of a centre for an assist. The only time he did that in 5 months. 
    Possibly, I'd nodded off by then.

    Further backs the point then doesn't it? Done it once in 5 months against a side 3 divisions below.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    If the aim is he comes back a better player why have they got an option to buy? 
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134
    edited January 2022
    we all know, or at least have a nasty feeling, that he'll be a big success at Blackpool
    Bet he isn’t. 

    I know that he never got much of a chance with us (and I hate writing players off after so few games) but, even in that short space of time he did so little of impact that I can’t see him succeeding elsewhere. 

    Most of his success has been in League two and it is worth watching his You Tube reel to note how terrible the defending is for a lot of his big moments. A not very pacy one footed winger who constantly looks to cut inside is going to be found out pretty quickly in the Championship.

    Happy to be proven wrong but I suspect he’ll back with us and being talked up again next pre-season.

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Belv said:
    Not having all this "didn't get a chance" nonsense.

    We're talking about a bloke who looked out of his depth against Havant & Waterlooville.
    Wasn't  that the game where he went outside  the full back and put in a peach of a centre for an assist. The only time he did that in 5 months. 
    He got under 6 out of 10 in the stat bank for that match, against a pub team. 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    mendonca said:
    Not enough aggression for me in any of his play. Also never seen him kick the ball more than 20 metres. Good luck to him getting a move back up North and in the Championship.
    Martin Sandgaard was brought in specifically to help Kirk with this…
  • They've done just that with Owen Dale
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,473
    Charlie Kirk's missus seemingly endorsing this comment
  • we all know, or at least have a nasty feeling, that he'll be a big success at Blackpool
    Hope he is, as more likely to command a fee from Blackpool as opposed to from Charlton 👍
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,487
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Charlie Kirk's missus seemingly endorsing this comment
    Yeah how awful not to keep the guy as back up to the bench and instead let him move north to a club in a higher division. Disgusting. 
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,098
    Best rid. Poor player and he’s one of them happy up north guys 
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134
    edited January 2022
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Charlie Kirk's missus seemingly endorsing this comment
    What a rubbish tweet. Know nothing of his personal situation whatsoever so how has he been sent packing without a care in the world? He’s closer to home at a club in the league above- a move he would have probably snapped up anyway if given the choice. And, if that is his missus, I would imagine she’d have the hump because he hasn’t been playing.

    I know things aren’t great but people really can’t wait to have a pop at the club at the moment. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Good news for all concerned .  It’s not worked out - I suspect nobody’s fault .  These things happen 
  • shirty5 said:
    Kirk: 5 months into a 4 year deal and goes out on loan to a club in a division above us.  500,000

    Schwartz: 8 months into a 2 and half year deal and goes back to Denmark. 

    That Black box can be thrown in the Thames and the club needs to go back to old school football scouting. 

    And neither were last minute panic buys, plucked out of nowhere. BOTH had been long term targets, that we wanted to buy in the window before the one we actually bought them in. So we had PLENTY of time to analyse their qualities and whether they would fit in to our style of football, and indeed on a personal level to life away from home.

    Really worrying that 2 major buys can fail so badly. 
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