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Sandgaard and Duchâtelet working together to sell The Valley?
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If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.4
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My point exactly, he physically has the money, so saying he can’t afford it is incorrect, he can, wanting to spend it is entirely differentalburyaddick said:
Have you checked out the Zynex share price recently. The market cap is c £190m and TS owns c 40% so his current shareholding is worth c £76m. I assume that you wouldn’t want to spend 65% of your wealth on a season ticket. No doubt he will have made a decent amount from his original float but there is no way he will want to afford the purchase of The ValleyDA9 said:
He can afford it, just like I can afford to renew my season ticket right now, just don’t want too, can spend my money on better and more sensible things currently, hell of a difference between not physically having the money and affordability/choicealburyaddick said:There is no way that TS can really afford to buy The Valley at Roland’s ludicrous £50m price tag.However, bearing in mind his annual losses of £5-8m it’s entirely possible that he will be considering all strategies to get some of that back including any potential property plays - all the previous owners have ended up looking at it in some way2 -
That assumes those shares are his only wealth.alburyaddick said:
Have you checked out the Zynex share price recently. The market cap is c £190m and TS owns c 40% so his current shareholding is worth c £76m. I assume that you wouldn’t want to spend 65% of your wealth on a season ticket. No doubt he will have made a decent amount from his original float but there is no way he will want to afford the purchase of The ValleyDA9 said:
He can afford it, just like I can afford to renew my season ticket right now, just don’t want too, can spend my money on better and more sensible things currently, hell of a difference between not physically having the money and affordability/choicealburyaddick said:There is no way that TS can really afford to buy The Valley at Roland’s ludicrous £50m price tag.However, bearing in mind his annual losses of £5-8m it’s entirely possible that he will be considering all strategies to get some of that back including any potential property plays - all the previous owners have ended up looking at it in some way2 -
I don't think the value is in the Valley, i think the value is in Sparrows Lane.1
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We all know Roland's valuation is stupidly high so who is he going to sell it to? If he has decided to lower the price, surely he would put it out there to gain interest. I doubt Thomas is colluding with Roland on a sale.Airman Brown said:The difficulty is that The Valley isn’t worth what Duchatelet has always wanted for it. If he’s ready to sell it for £20m someone might think it’s worth a go. Anything more probably assumes vacant possession and consent.0 -
J have said for a long time that Dushitelet was only here for the land. The likes of @Airman Brown will know more than me without me having anything more than a guess.eaststandmike said:I posted on here about 18 month's ago saying I would not be surprised if RD & TS are linked somewhere behind the scenes. Not saying its true but nothing would surprise me,0 -
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.1 -
Didn’t Sandgaard say on the CAST call that he speaks to RD regularly about the real estate, so don’t know why the shock1
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What’s more worrying is the people who believe this crap ..6
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You know nothing, go away.RonnieMoore said:What’s more worrying is the people who believe this crap ..5 -
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Maybe Rowland wants a second go as Addick in Chief and wants to play a 3-5-2 this time (with a bigger corner unit sofa).2
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I’m popping into the Marriott, Bexleyheath tomorrow so will let you knowElfsborgAddick said:
You know nothing, go away.RonnieMoore said:What’s more worrying is the people who believe this crap ..
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If Sandgaard bought the Valley from Duchatelet, people on here would still moan about it.27
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Indeed, and fair play to them for those efforts.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
Just a shame it seems to have lead to a culture of having to find conspiracy in absolutely everything the current owner does.9 -
But equally there were plenty of posters on here sounding the alarm. Since then there is a large chunk of the Twitter lot who have been very vocal in their agenda, this just seems like another part of that but will happily eat my words if some of the ITKers on here say different.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.5 -
I wouldn't have thought there would be too many takers Airman, we are in the biggest economic downturn in living memory and what would anyone want with a third division football club or indeed a ground with any proposed development fraught with problems.Airman Brown said:The difficulty is that The Valley isn’t worth what Duchatelet has always wanted for it. If he’s ready to sell it for £20m someone might think it’s worth a go. Anything more probably assumes vacant possession and consent.1 -
To be honest though mate, you only really get reminded about the predictions that are marginally right. Every other baseless "suggestion" that come to nothing, seem to quickly get forgotten about.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
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I find it equally troubling that some people seem to think there should be no discussion at all because Sandgaard isn’t Southall.cafctom said:
Indeed, and fair play to them for those efforts.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
Just a shame it seems to have lead to a culture of having to find conspiracy in absolutely everything the current owner does.13 -
TC(Lovely Geezer) on 606 called it before news came out regards Mouthall. The geezer is a spanner with a fondness for us.
If you're reading this, can you pass on your thoughts please.0 -
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Metropolitan Open Land so protectedusetobunkin said:I don't think the value is in the Valley, i think the value is in Sparrows Lane.1 -
I don’t disagree. Unfortunately social media platforms like Twitter don’t lend themselves well to nuanced debate, and therefore a lot of extreme opinions get voiced instead.Airman Brown said:
I find it equally troubling that some people seem to think there should be no discussion at all because Sandgaard isn’t Southall.cafctom said:
Indeed, and fair play to them for those efforts.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
Just a shame it seems to have lead to a culture of having to find conspiracy in absolutely everything the current owner does.7 -
But as you know, his shareholding isn't his bank balance. Incredibly wealthy people don't bounce up and down with the price of the market, they're very diversified.alburyaddick said:
Have you checked out the Zynex share price recently. The market cap is c £190m and TS owns c 40% so his current shareholding is worth c £76m. I assume that you wouldn’t want to spend 65% of your wealth on a season ticket. No doubt he will have made a decent amount from his original float but there is no way he will want to afford the purchase of The ValleyDA9 said:
He can afford it, just like I can afford to renew my season ticket right now, just don’t want too, can spend my money on better and more sensible things currently, hell of a difference between not physically having the money and affordability/choicealburyaddick said:There is no way that TS can really afford to buy The Valley at Roland’s ludicrous £50m price tag.However, bearing in mind his annual losses of £5-8m it’s entirely possible that he will be considering all strategies to get some of that back including any potential property plays - all the previous owners have ended up looking at it in some way
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Agreed, It goes both ways in terms of accuracy & agenda.cafctom said:
Indeed, and fair play to them for those efforts.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
Just a shame it seems to have lead to a culture of having to find conspiracy in absolutely everything the current owner does.
My point was some on here are quick to do down anything from Twitter or that hasn’t originated on these pages… and some of those got it very wrong on ESI.
I’m not believing this rumour and if he was indeed in cahoots in any way with Roland any in way that’s not buying the Valley then I think it would be the death of Sandgaard.0 -
ElfsborgAddick said:TC(Lovely Geezer) on 606 called it before news came out regards Mouthall. The geezer is a spanner with a fondness for us.
If you're reading this, can you pass on your thoughts please.
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Bailey said:
I wouldn't have thought there would be too many takers Airman, we are in the biggest economic downturn in living memory and what would anyone want with a third division football club or indeed a ground with any proposed development fraught with problems.Airman Brown said:The difficulty is that The Valley isn’t worth what Duchatelet has always wanted for it. If he’s ready to sell it for £20m someone might think it’s worth a go. Anything more probably assumes vacant possession and consent.
And yet property prices have continued to rise. If The Valley was available at a sensible price there would be plenty of property companies interested in taking a punt on it.1 -
Do you believe Sandgaard has ill intentions?Airman Brown said:
I find it equally troubling that some people seem to think there should be no discussion at all because Sandgaard isn’t Southall.cafctom said:
Indeed, and fair play to them for those efforts.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
Just a shame it seems to have lead to a culture of having to find conspiracy in absolutely everything the current owner does.0 -
Irrelevant to the question of whether he’s competent thoughCallumcafc said:
Do you believe Sandgaard has ill intentions?Airman Brown said:
I find it equally troubling that some people seem to think there should be no discussion at all because Sandgaard isn’t Southall.cafctom said:
Indeed, and fair play to them for those efforts.Maccn05 said:
To be fair some of those ‘personalities’ were the first to out Nimer & Southall… while others were falling over themselves for selfies.colthe3rd said:If the only source of these rumours is the usual twitter personalities I doubt there is much to worry about.
Not that I’m saying I believe this rumour at all.
Just a shame it seems to have lead to a culture of having to find conspiracy in absolutely everything the current owner does.1 -
Absolutely rubbish.Dazzler21 said:If Sandgaard bought the Valley from Duchatelet, people on here would still moan about it.
I am one of Sandgaards biggest critics and I believe that separating the club and the valley is a potential disaster for us.
Should Sandgaard come up with the money and buy Roland out then I would completely change my mind about him.
I'm sure that plenty of people who currently doubt him would also give him their full support.9 -
They'd come up with something.shirty5 said:
Why would they? Any names to your assumption?Dazzler21 said:If Sandgaard bought the Valley from Duchatelet, people on here would still moan about it.
Why didn't he use that money on transfers.
Why didn't he spend on a big name manager.
Why didn't he sort the catering staff.
Why didn't he sack and pay off Tony Keohane.
I don't need to name drop, they're a vocal enough group that have decided Sandgaard will never be any good.7
