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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • I think in terms of initial scanning ‘Ben Garner’ fits with the ‘Jorge Costa’ overture, but it needs a following couplet.
  • Gribbo said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    They should be here now with Ben to be honest, why wait 
    Garner's obviously happy with how things are. 
    Is he ? 
    Just going by the fact he's just signed a 3 year contract, I'd say he was happy. Maybe you know a fact that says he ain't happy, 48 hours into it??
    See this ? It's a question mark. I don't need to produce a fact when I'm asking a question.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    shirty5 said:
    These should be his first 2 signings before anything else is done 
    I think TS realises that and is just playing crafty.

    Much like RD TS doesn't like employing managers who want to bring their own backroom, as it's double bubble when he sacks them. I suspect it's more to do with the restrictive contracts he's offering.
    Didn't Luzon, Peters and Riga all bring back room staff with them?  Slade did, Robinson did.  It was only after KM left and RD gave up (chicken or egg?) that Bowyer didn't?
    I will never as long as I live forget Wim de Corte, aka Crystal Meth Art Garfunkel
  • aliwibble said:
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    To the tune of Lee Lee Lee Bow-yer it will be Ben Ben Ben Gar-ner which will be a bit of a low in creativity.
    If the fans want the manager to up our game, then Garner has the right to expect the fans to up their game in chants.
    Well I tried my best! What did you expect .... from a fish! 🐟

    I'm looking at BeeGee songs for inspiration now because of his initials, but I think another club uses 'Islands in the Stream', so that's out.

    There's always 2Unlimited's, 'There's no Limit' to fall back on.

    🎵
    Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben, Ben Garner!
    🎵
    Now it's been confirmed I'm still hoping for the "he's got no hair but we don't care" revival, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
    Being as bald as coot myself now, it's a bit too 'pot, kettle, black' for me, but I used to join in the Stevie Gritt appreciation society renditions of it along with the rest!😎
  • seth plum said:
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    To the tune of Lee Lee Lee Bow-yer it will be Ben Ben Ben Gar-ner which will be a bit of a low in creativity.
    If the fans want the manager to up our game, then Garner has the right to expect the fans to up their game in chants.
    Well I tried my best! What did you expect .... from a fish! 🐟

    I'm looking at BeeGee songs for inspiration now because of his initials, but I think another club uses 'Islands in the Stream', so that's out.

    There's always 2Unlimited's, 'There's no Limit' to fall back on.

    🎵
    Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben, Ben Garner!
    🎵
    Yes I saw your earlier effort which was actually very good. Was it a bit complex though?
    This ‘no limit’ one is good.
    Fish or not you ought to be a founder member of the chants ideas lab.
    Complex? 🤣 It only had four lines, the same number as the 'no Limit' one. I can't think what you're implying?  😎
  • Gribbo said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    They should be here now with Ben to be honest, why wait 
    Garner's obviously happy with how things are. 
    Is he ? 
    Just going by the fact he's just signed a 3 year contract, I'd say he was happy. Maybe you know a fact that says he ain't happy, 48 hours into it??
    See this ? It's a question mark. I don't need to produce a fact when I'm asking a question.
    Yes it's a question. It's just a stupid question.
  • What's the score with the coaches?
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  • edited June 9
    aliwibble said:
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    To the tune of Lee Lee Lee Bow-yer it will be Ben Ben Ben Gar-ner which will be a bit of a low in creativity.
    If the fans want the manager to up our game, then Garner has the right to expect the fans to up their game in chants.
    Well I tried my best! What did you expect .... from a fish! 🐟

    I'm looking at BeeGee songs for inspiration now because of his initials, but I think another club uses 'Islands in the Stream', so that's out.

    There's always 2Unlimited's, 'There's no Limit' to fall back on.

    🎵
    Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben, Ben Garner!
    🎵
    Now it's been confirmed I'm still hoping for the "he's got no hair but we don't care" revival, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
    Bob Peeters used to get the ‘he’s got no hair’ song, but it was a different tune to the Steve Gritt one. 

    Oh Ben Garner
    Oh Ben Garner
    Oh Ben Garner

    He’s got no hair, but we don’t care

    Hard to describe the tune, but if you were at Reading away, when I think we won 1-0, you might remember it. 
  • edited June 9
    Not a song but some Rhyming couplets for @seth plum in AABB stanzas.

    Ben Garner comes from Kent 
    If only we had Darren Bent
    He would lift the chanting Crowd
    When goals arrive they sing so loud

    Our new manager is Ben Garner
    He may even need Body Armour
    When our strikers can't convert
    They are not fit to wear the shirt

    Thomas Sandgaard is a showman
    At time the football can be an omen
    Of better times that may be ahead
    Or should we have stayed in bed

    Charlton Athletic had a five year plan
    Which ended up in the trash Can
    Now fans just can't be fair weather
    For unity, success we come together

    The new season on the pitch
    Could well have the odd hitch
    Now let sleeping dogs lie 
    We are Charlton until we die
  • Ben Garner, whoah
    Ben Garner, whoah
    He comes from Pembury
    And plays football progressively

     ;) 
    Not bad, but the word football may not fit.
  • Not a song but some Rhyming couplets for @seth plum in AABB stanzas.

    Ben Garner comes from Kent 
    If only we had Darren Bent
    He would lift the chanting Crowd
    When goals arrive they sing so loud

    Our new manager is Ben Garner
    He may even need Body Armour
    When our strikers can't convert
    They are not fit to wear the shirt

    Thomas Sandgaard is a showman
    At time the football can be an omen
    Of better times that may be ahead
    Or should we have stayed in bed

    Charlton Athletic had a five year plan
    Which ended up in the trash Can
    Now fans just can't be fair weather
    For unity, success we come together

    The new season on the pitch
    Could well have the odd hitch
    Now let sleeping dogs lie
    As we are Charlton until we die
    The first verse is the neatest.
    The first cut is the deepest.
  • I'm looking forward to attacking football and goal mouth action, I really am, who wouldn't?
    But isn't this constant insistence on it being the only way to play and win all a bit one - eyed and dogmatic?
    There's another team on the pitch, they're allowed to compete, they'll each provide their own challenges.
    The whole management/ownership/recruitment team are singing from the same hymn sheet but it's Sandgaard's hymn sheet, innit?
    Sandgaard's derision of "the high balls to the big bloke" is troubling - There's always a time and place for that, that's why it's so popular and effective.
    Steve Gallen's a decent and knowledgeable chap but I'm concerned by his revelation that Martin S was in on all the manager interviews.  Doing what?  What does he bring?  Was he just Thomas's eyes and ears on the day, taking notes?
    Garner's credentials look fine to me, let's hope he has the players, time, players, space and players to succeed here at Charlton.  
  • edited June 9
    Ben Garner, whoah
    Ben Garner, whoah
    He comes from Pembury
    And plays football progressively

     ;) 

    Sorry Killer but:

    Ben Garner, whoah
    Ben Garner, Whoah
    He comes from Pembury
    He plays progressively


  • swordfish said:
    aliwibble said:
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    To the tune of Lee Lee Lee Bow-yer it will be Ben Ben Ben Gar-ner which will be a bit of a low in creativity.
    If the fans want the manager to up our game, then Garner has the right to expect the fans to up their game in chants.
    Well I tried my best! What did you expect .... from a fish! 🐟

    I'm looking at BeeGee songs for inspiration now because of his initials, but I think another club uses 'Islands in the Stream', so that's out.

    There's always 2Unlimited's, 'There's no Limit' to fall back on.

    🎵
    Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben, Ben Garner!
    🎵
    Now it's been confirmed I'm still hoping for the "he's got no hair but we don't care" revival, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
    Being as bald as coot myself now, it's a bit too 'pot, kettle, black' for me, but I used to join in the Stevie Gritt appreciation society renditions of it along with the rest!😎
    Swordy fish
    swordy fish
    swordy swords fish
    he's for no hair
    and we don't care
    sworsy swordy fish
  • I thought Raelynn said Garner wasnt happening?
  • swordfish said:
    aliwibble said:
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    To the tune of Lee Lee Lee Bow-yer it will be Ben Ben Ben Gar-ner which will be a bit of a low in creativity.
    If the fans want the manager to up our game, then Garner has the right to expect the fans to up their game in chants.
    Well I tried my best! What did you expect .... from a fish! 🐟

    I'm looking at BeeGee songs for inspiration now because of his initials, but I think another club uses 'Islands in the Stream', so that's out.

    There's always 2Unlimited's, 'There's no Limit' to fall back on.

    🎵
    Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben, Ben Garner!
    🎵
    Now it's been confirmed I'm still hoping for the "he's got no hair but we don't care" revival, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
    Being as bald as coot myself now, it's a bit too 'pot, kettle, black' for me, but I used to join in the Stevie Gritt appreciation society renditions of it along with the rest!😎
    Swordy fish
    swordy fish
    swordy swords fish
    he's for no hair
    and we don't care
    sworsy swordy fish
    Needs work.
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  • Seeing as how we’re trainspotters how about the chuff chuff approach, like a steam train starting off?

    #Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben
    Ben Ben Ben Ben#

    Getting faster and faster as the train speeds up, perhaps finishing with an almighty ‘woooooooooooh’ once we’re exhausted.
    Are the lyrics too complicated?
    🚞🚃🚃🚃
  • Ben Garner, whoah
    Ben Garner, whoah
    He comes from Pembury
    And plays football progressively

     ;) 

    Sorry Killer but:

    Ben Garner, whoah
    Ben Garner, Whoah
    He comes from Pembury
    He plays progressively


    Let's hope the last line doesn't become, 

    'His team is all at sea!'
  • Billy_Mix said:
    I'm looking forward to attacking football and goal mouth action, I really am, who wouldn't?
    But isn't this constant insistence on it being the only way to play and win all a bit one - eyed and dogmatic?
    There's another team on the pitch, they're allowed to compete, they'll each provide their own challenges.
    The whole management/ownership/recruitment team are singing from the same hymn sheet but it's Sandgaard's hymn sheet, innit?
    Sandgaard's derision of "the high balls to the big bloke" is troubling - There's always a time and place for that, that's why it's so popular and effective.
    Steve Gallen's a decent and knowledgeable chap but I'm concerned by his revelation that Martin S was in on all the manager interviews.  Doing what?  What does he bring?  Was he just Thomas's eyes and ears on the day, taking notes?
    Garner's credentials look fine to me, let's hope he has the players, time, players, space and players to succeed here at Charlton.  
    It has been explained several times that MS is an observer for TS. Not in control but his representative in this country.

    Steve Gallen said that the manager has the final say on signings.
  • Billy_Mix said:
    I'm looking forward to attacking football and goal mouth action, I really am, who wouldn't?
    But isn't this constant insistence on it being the only way to play and win all a bit one - eyed and dogmatic?
    There's another team on the pitch, they're allowed to compete, they'll each provide their own challenges.
    The whole management/ownership/recruitment team are singing from the same hymn sheet but it's Sandgaard's hymn sheet, innit?
    Sandgaard's derision of "the high balls to the big bloke" is troubling - There's always a time and place for that, that's why it's so popular and effective.
    Steve Gallen's a decent and knowledgeable chap but I'm concerned by his revelation that Martin S was in on all the manager interviews.  Doing what?  What does he bring?  Was he just Thomas's eyes and ears on the day, taking notes?
    Garner's credentials look fine to me, let's hope he has the players, time, players, space and players to succeed here at Charlton.  
    The reason why high balls to the big bloke is popular is because firstly it's easy and requires little coaching, and secondly it's a way for lower skilled teams to play reasonably percentaged football against better teams.

    But it has severe limitations, as if the opposition is skilled enough they will keep the ball after winning around 60% of the high balls, play it through the thirds and put you under pressure again. My God we saw that enough this past season.
  • I saw that and thought about the final say thing.
    If Martin Sandgaard says ‘you can sign such and such a player that I recommend if you like, but you have the final say, and if you say no…then you can’t sign anybody and will have to make do’ what happens then?
  • edited June 9
    seth plum said:
    I saw that and thought about the final say thing.
    If Martin Sandgaard says ‘you can sign such and such a player that I recommend if you like, but you have the final say, and if you say no…then you can’t sign anybody and will have to make do’ what happens then?
    You do know that they are all adults?

    I can’t believe you are making up scenarios to try and have a pop. They all have an interest in making us successful.
  • Crusty54 said:
    Billy_Mix said:
    I'm looking forward to attacking football and goal mouth action, I really am, who wouldn't?
    But isn't this constant insistence on it being the only way to play and win all a bit one - eyed and dogmatic?
    There's another team on the pitch, they're allowed to compete, they'll each provide their own challenges.
    The whole management/ownership/recruitment team are singing from the same hymn sheet but it's Sandgaard's hymn sheet, innit?
    Sandgaard's derision of "the high balls to the big bloke" is troubling - There's always a time and place for that, that's why it's so popular and effective.
    Steve Gallen's a decent and knowledgeable chap but I'm concerned by his revelation that Martin S was in on all the manager interviews.  Doing what?  What does he bring?  Was he just Thomas's eyes and ears on the day, taking notes?
    Garner's credentials look fine to me, let's hope he has the players, time, players, space and players to succeed here at Charlton.  
    It has been explained several times that MS is an observer for TS. Not in control but his representative in this country.

    Steve Gallen said that the manager has the final say on signings.
    That way well be true, it may have even been always true.  But, importantly, that's not what Thomas had previously been saying for the last 6 months.

    There could be multiple reasons why Thomas would say what he did but "Martin signing players" didn't come out of thin air.

    If they are just correcting the narrative to match reality that's fine.  If they have changed the process that's fine as well.  

    What ever is happening now needs to work because what was happening didn't.
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