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Albie Morgan - diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (p63)

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Decent enough cover. Cover is actually pretty important if we are going to do well.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    The article appears to confirm that we are open to offers for JFC. There are at least three midfielders I’d get rid of before JFC!!!!
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    The article appears to confirm that we are open to offers for JFC. There are at least three midfielders I’d get rid of before JFC!!!!
    If fit, I agree.  Morgan wouldn’t be one of them, however; if Garner is the great ball playing master tactician that some think he is , he will get the best out of Albie. 
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Technical ability Albie has in abundance. The consistency and defensive awareness is where he needs to improve and he knows that.

    I actually think a midfield 3 will suit him, rotating with Fraser. Playing alongside Dobson and Mcgrandles will free him up to get on the ball and make things happen. There are not many players at this level with his passing range - funnily enough the closest I have seen is Aaron Henry who also struggles with other aspects of his game.

    We also need to remember that he is only 22 and is actually younger than Alfie Doughty and Josh Davison. Because he broke through very early I think we all forget just how young he is.

    Big season coming up for him, hopefully under Garner he can flourish and fulfil the potential we all know he has.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    The article appears to confirm that we are open to offers for JFC. There are at least three midfielders I’d get rid of before JFC!!!!
    On paper but it appears he wants to be first choice and we can’t guarantee that.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I think it's do or die for Albie now, he needs to be consistently consistent, rather than consistently inconsistent in both defence and attack.

    If he can also improve his shot composure and not just leather the ball every time he shoots, that'll help. 

    Last chance saloon Albie, now prove yourself. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Technical ability Albie has in abundance. The consistency and defensive awareness is where he needs to improve and he knows that.

    I actually think a midfield 3 will suit him, rotating with Fraser. Playing alongside Dobson and Mcgrandles will free him up to get on the ball and make things happen. There are not many players at this level with his passing range - funnily enough the closest I have seen is Aaron Henry who also struggles with other aspects of his game.

    We also need to remember that he is only 22 and is actually younger than Alfie Doughty and Josh Davison. Because he broke through very early I think we all forget just how young he is.

    Big season coming up for him, hopefully under Garner he can flourish and fulfil the potential we all know he has.
    Isn't basically the role he had at the start of last season?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Technical ability Albie has in abundance. The consistency and defensive awareness is where he needs to improve and he knows that.

    I actually think a midfield 3 will suit him, rotating with Fraser. Playing alongside Dobson and Mcgrandles will free him up to get on the ball and make things happen. There are not many players at this level with his passing range - funnily enough the closest I have seen is Aaron Henry who also struggles with other aspects of his game.

    We also need to remember that he is only 22 and is actually younger than Alfie Doughty and Josh Davison. Because he broke through very early I think we all forget just how young he is.

    Big season coming up for him, hopefully under Garner he can flourish and fulfil the potential we all know he has.
    Isn't basically the role he had at the start of last season? 
    I hate to say it, but everyone was shit last season for long periods, especially at the start. All three of them were blamed for the formation not working, which was probably contained some truth, but the bigger problem was between the manager and players.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    I think it's do or die for Albie now, he needs to be consistently consistent, rather than consistently inconsistent in both defence and attack.

    If he can also improve his shot composure and not just leather the ball every time he shoots, that'll help. 

    Last chance saloon Albie, now prove yourself. 
    Was pleased he see him taking some shots against Colchester to many times he’s looking to pass the ball on, but got his head up and took shots (Everyone was to blame last season for doing this). One of the things which he needed to add to his game. Hopefully, this continues in future matches.
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    Can’t wait till the season ends and he finally leaves. Just isn’t good enough in my opinion.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Can’t wait till the season ends and he finally leaves. Just isn’t good enough in my opinion.
    In and among all of our outstanding players.  I’m not saying there’s anything to suggest you are wrong but I hope you are.  
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Can’t wait till the season ends and he finally leaves. Just isn’t good enough in my opinion.
    Knowing our luck he’ll finally come good, refuse to sign a new deal then walk away on a free.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2022
    Scoham said:
    Can’t wait till the season ends and he finally leaves. Just isn’t good enough in my opinion.
    Knowing our luck he’ll finally come good, refuse to sign a new deal then walk away on a free.
    We'll offer him something, as he's U24 we'll get compensation regardless if he stays or leaves.

    Unless Rangers come in for him, after he suddenly has an Aribo type season.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Scoham said:
    Can’t wait till the season ends and he finally leaves. Just isn’t good enough in my opinion.
    Knowing our luck he’ll finally come good, refuse to sign a new deal then walk away on a free.
    We'll offer him something, as he's U24 we'll get compensation regardless if he stays or leaves.

    Unless Rangers come in for him, after he suddenly has an Aribo type season.
    I know, but it'll be a lot less than what we'd get if he was under contract.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Can’t wait till the season ends and he finally leaves. Just isn’t good enough in my opinion.
    Knowing our luck he’ll finally come good, refuse to sign a new deal then walk away on a free.
    We'll offer him something, as he's U24 we'll get compensation regardless if he stays or leaves.

    Unless Rangers come in for him, after he suddenly has an Aribo type season.
    I know, but it'll be a lot less than what we'd get if he was under contract.
    Oh I know - I just dont expect us to straight up release him, even if he doesnt have an outstanding season.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    edited July 2022
    It was do or die this time last season. Amazing how a very decent goal in a friendly against Colchester has somehow brought back this idea that AM will be the messiah.
    The woefully overhit passes, terrible tackling and poor set pieces in the same game have been forgotten. 
    Sadly, he’s not good enough. We’ll make a serious error of judgement if we go into another season thinking Albie should be the number 10. 

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2022
    Valley11 said:
    It was do or die this time last season. Amazing how a very decent goal in a friendly against Colchester has somehow brought back this idea that AM will be the messiah.
    The woefully overhit passes, terrible tackling and poor set pieces in the same game have been forgotten. 
    Sadly, he’s not good enough. We’ll make a serious error of judgement if we go into another season thinking Albie should be the number 10. 

    Typically over the top reaction. Friendlies are not competitive. They are an opportunity to try things. 

    You ignore in your post the good passes etc, but then you've decided that his career is done at 22, despite manager after manager disagreeing, by giving him opportunities above "better" players.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    Albie îs a very good natural footballer. His downside has been his ability to learn the wider parts of the game, positioning, when to pass/when not to pass etc. He's actually one of the best passers at the club and shooter, but he needs to nail the other side of his game, with I hope he does, but time is running out.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    Valley11 said:
    It was do or die this time last season. Amazing how a very decent goal in a friendly against Colchester has somehow brought back this idea that AM will be the messiah.
    The woefully overhit passes, terrible tackling and poor set pieces in the same game have been forgotten. 
    Sadly, he’s not good enough. We’ll make a serious error of judgement if we go into another season thinking Albie should be the number 10. 

    Ridiculous post. 
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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    He's a half decent league 1 player, not good enough for a promotion drive... some people on here make him out to be a league 1 Pirlo... one of the best passers in the league, my arse
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Dazzler21 said:
    Valley11 said:
    It was do or die this time last season. Amazing how a very decent goal in a friendly against Colchester has somehow brought back this idea that AM will be the messiah.
    The woefully overhit passes, terrible tackling and poor set pieces in the same game have been forgotten. 
    Sadly, he’s not good enough. We’ll make a serious error of judgement if we go into another season thinking Albie should be the number 10. 

    Typically over the top reaction. Friendlies are not competitive. They are an opportunity to try things. 

    You ignore in your post the good passes etc, but then you've decided that his career is done at 22, despite manager after manager disagreeing, by giving him opportunities above "better" players.
    No, I’ve not decided Albie’s career is over at 22. Typical over the top reaction.
    Nor did I claim friendlies are competitive. Quite the opposite. My post makes the point that a good goal in a friendly can’t mask the deficiencies in AM’s game. 
    My point is I don’t think he’s good enough for League 1. That was proved time and again last season and nothing in this pre season has convinced me otherwise. Save for a great goal I think he’s been poor. Time to move on. 

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Former Charlton academy youngster Morgan still feels he can make it as a pro.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/sport/skys-the-limit-for-bay-newcomer-morgan-270297/
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    Is this the Gilbey thread?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Scoham said:
    Former Charlton academy youngster Morgan still feels he can make it as a pro.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/sport/skys-the-limit-for-bay-newcomer-morgan-270297/
    Thats not his Brother in the picture is it? - Looks like he's had a rough paper round, unless he's a lot older.
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    Albie will have a great season ahead. The earlier posts about aspects of his game that are missing/ not good enough are all fair. But this season he will have more quality to pass to more quality to receive from and with BG having such an impact on young players Me developing them I have no doubt these aspects of his game will be improved. He has the best engine on him in the squad, is actually technically very competent and I fully believe he will be on fire this season. 
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    *in developing them
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Did alright today. There may be hope for him yet.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Morgan has done well this pre season, as reflected by him playing today and not last night. I've a sneaky suspicion that he's the sort of player that will do well under Garner, a manager keen on encouraging positive play with the ball.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Did alright today. There may be hope for him yet.
    Was very good pre-season last season, in a different position/role.