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Bexley refuse collectors on strike again !

Surprise to note the we don't have a thread on the fact that Bexley refuse collectors have gone on strike again! - Once again we have bins full of rubbish and just to top it off last week some pissed up prats thought it was fun to throw not only my bins, but those of some neighbours into the road..

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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    iansarge said:
    Surprise to note the we don't have a thread on the fact that Bexley refuse collectors have gone on strike again! - Once again we have bins full of rubbish and just to top it off last week some pissed up prats thought it was fun to throw not only my bins, but those of some neighbours into the road..
    It's a disgrace. Mayor of Bexley James Hunt last year took to twitter last year to mock those who complained about they only pay a couple of pounds towards bin collection in their council tax
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Rubbish 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,615
    Since the strike last year, the company that was running the collections has lost its contract and a new one has taken over. The council was saying then that the service would improve and it wasn’t the council’s fault. Which is bollocks, as they choice the companies.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    If the money coming in for doing such a hard smelly job (or any job for that matter) isn’t enough to live on, or the conditions and hours are exploitative and dangerous, then striking without pay is a perfectly reasonable action to take.
    If the ultimate authority is with the council, then the ultimate ultimate responsibility is with those who voted them in.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    It’s a rubbish service 😀
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,615
    It’s a rubbish service 😀
     Can’t they just get agency staff in?
    No training required, just pick it up as you go along.
  • seth plum said:
    If the money coming in for doing such a hard smelly job (or any job for that matter) isn’t enough to live on, or the conditions and hours are exploitative and dangerous, then striking without pay is a perfectly reasonable action to take.
    If the ultimate authority is with the council, then the ultimate ultimate responsibility is with those who voted them in.
    The council chose a contractor based on the perceived abiity and track record, to deliver the service required. Does not have to be the cheapest. If the contractors staff decide they want more money then the contractor needs to fund it. They entered into a contract to supply a service. It is not the responsibiity of the Bexley residents who bothered to vote, and the political make up of the council is immaterial. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited July 2022
    Proud to say we don’t outsource our bin collection in Thanet - it was tried by the Tories and found to be more efficient in-house. But however it is provided, its performance absolutely the responsibility of the incumbent political administration. Otherwise how can anyone hold the service to account. You pay the council for it.

    As a district council it’s the the most direct and regular contact we have with our residents. It’s intensive and complex to organise with all the different waste streams and it’s the biggest source of complaints (re missed bins). But it’s absolutely what the council does.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    seth plum said:
    If the money coming in for doing such a hard smelly job (or any job for that matter) isn’t enough to live on, or the conditions and hours are exploitative and dangerous, then striking without pay is a perfectly reasonable action to take.
    If the ultimate authority is with the council, then the ultimate ultimate responsibility is with those who voted them in.
    The council chose a contractor based on the perceived abiity and track record, to deliver the service required. Does not have to be the cheapest. If the contractors staff decide they want more money then the contractor needs to fund it. They entered into a contract to supply a service. It is not the responsibiity of the Bexley residents who bothered to vote, and the political make up of the council is immaterial. 
    We disagree regarding responsibility.
    However the practical reality is the rubbish not being collected.
    Is it down to the elected council to do anything about it?
    Maybe they should simply shrug and say ‘it’s not my problem, it’s the problem for the contractors to sort out’.
    If you buy a wireless set from an electrical retailer and it doesn’t work, the responsibility is with the retailer to whom you have paid your money, although many will try to bounce you on to the manufacturer.
    Those retailers would be completely wrong to do so.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,886
    Bexley council have published the details of the dispute the offers made by the outsourcing company who employ the bin men and what they are doing and can / cannot do. At face value the outsourcing company seem to have made a reasonable offer but of course it could be better. 

    As ever a compromise will be arrived at it is a matter  of when. 

    In defence this time they are prioritising the collection of the non recyclable rubbish on the usual fortnightly schedule to mitigate for residents. 

    Not great but not yet as bad as last year. 
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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Just give then free tickets to Charlton home games and move on!
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    Strike action has been suspended.

    White and blue lid bins to be collected from Friday. Brown garden bins won’t start being collected until mid-August as garden trucks and crews are needed to clear backlog of other recycling.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Macronate said:
    Strike action has been suspended.

    White and blue lid bins to be collected from Friday. Brown garden bins won’t start being collected until mid-August as garden trucks and crews are needed to clear backlog of other recycling.
    Excellent, white lid bin has been colonised by maggots.