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Charlie Kirk (p68 - released by Barrow)

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    wmcf123 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I think of the 4 wingers we have now, if one leaves it's DJ
    I still think Kirk is most likely because if Blackpool come in he’ll want to go. Do think all 4 will stay though and it’s a decent set with different qualities. Just gotta hope Garners coaching leads them all to chipping in. 
    Long season ahead and with CBT flakey with injuries , we will need all 4, especially if Leaburn is being used as a number 9 in the absence of Chuks.
    Whilst I agree, I can also see Garner tempted to use the money for a striker. Leaburn, Payne and Clayden can all play in the wide areas of that front 3 so it's an area we're pretty stacked in compared to CB and STR. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    DJ was very good against QPR so I wouldn't write him off either. Why offload wingers when we've got 2 CMs to get rid of?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    DJ was very good against QPR so I wouldn't write him off either. Why offload wingers when we've got 2 CMs to get rid of?
    He was ok yeah, for one half. Have we got 2 CMs to get rid of or just one? If it's one in one out then I could see a CM and DJ out for a left-footed defender and striker. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    DJ was very good against QPR so I wouldn't write him off either. Why offload wingers when we've got 2 CMs to get rid of?
    He was ok yeah, for one half. Have we got 2 CMs to get rid of or just one? If it's one in one out then I could see a CM and DJ out for a left-footed defender and striker. 
    I'd sooner offload Gibley & JFC than either of DJ or Kirk. Would rather give Henry minutes in CM if we are short
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    I can see DJ slotting into the team how they were playing yesterday, albeit not as violently well as JRS and with perhaps less weird floaty danger energy than Kirk - he'd still have fitted in. JFC could have maybe, MAYBE done the Fraser role, but with less mobility. Gilbey? No comment 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    DJ was very good against QPR so I wouldn't write him off either. Why offload wingers when we've got 2 CMs to get rid of?
    He was ok yeah, for one half. Have we got 2 CMs to get rid of or just one? If it's one in one out then I could see a CM and DJ out for a left-footed defender and striker. 
    I'd sooner offload Gibley & JFC than either of DJ or Kirk. Would rather give Henry minutes in CM if we are short
    I think we need 6. The point someone made about Henry being wasted as a 6th choice because he could miss U21 games to sit on a bench or travel as a reserve was a reasonable one. One of them CMs needs to go though, no doubt about that. Having two failing to make the bench shows that. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    DJ was very good against QPR so I wouldn't write him off either. Why offload wingers when we've got 2 CMs to get rid of?
    You can only off load what people are prepared to pay for.  Even if we "jogged one on" to a league 2 club we would be paying a high % of their wages.

    Is, for arguments sake, Wimbledon paying 1k a week of JFC's wages going to effect the budget?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Definitely room for 4 wingers in this team and for them to be somewhat rotated on a horses for courses basis. Want to get at their full backs with raw pace and tricks - JRS + CBT. Need a bit less directness and a bit more guile - start Kirk. They have a good winger and one of the fullbacks will need a bit more protection - DJ is your main. 

    Payne and Leaburn are wild cards too. 

    We could probably lose one of them and still have decent options, but there’s definitely room for all of them. We’re all excited now, but JRS did tire on Tuesday so we don’t know if he can start week in week out just yet, CBT has had injuries before, and wingers are notorious for losing form suddenly and dramatically. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    "At times last year we were a bit gungho at times, people didn't know where to play"

    Awkward for Jacko that. 
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  • It could be in my mind but from the off this year it’s felt like the comms team have focused on Kirk somewhat more than other players, including him in lots of early pre season social media stuff for example.

    Its one of the reasons I mentioned on the previous page that I thought he would likely stay and be a big player for us this year.

    If so I wonder if that was by design to make him feel more confident/part of the group etc?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Dazzler21 said:
    "At times last year we were a bit gungho at times, people didn't know where to play"

    Awkward for Jacko that. 
    I did sometimes write in a post match thread how many players were playing out of position and it would often be half the team. Very telling.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2022
    Dazzler21 said:
    "At times last year we were a bit gungho at times, people didn't know where to play"

    Awkward for Jacko that. 
    Tbf he was barely here under Jacko. Regardless of opinions on style of play, his team was always set up with a clear structure.

    Adkins’ spell felt a lot more aimless to me. 

    But obviously it’s a game of opinions.
  • Scored about 90 seconds after the bloke behind us called for him to be taken off, which made me smile.

    Hopefully that's done him a world of good.
    I was calling for him to be taken off. Not because he was poor, I wanted to see b-Taylor run at their defence.
  • Hope he stays. I think he’s starting to enjoy his football and has finally settled. In a team predominantly on the front foot I think he’s a real asset. Technically good and can create and score goals. I don’t think his early time and patchy performances were anything to do with lack of talent. 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,738
    Who's idea was it to play the tantric porn music on loop over the interview? Bloody annoying #bringbackolly
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Who's idea was it to play the tantric porn music on loop over the interview? Bloody annoying #bringbackolly
    You beat me to it. The background music they play over many/most of the interviews - just why?
    It's not the best quality sound in any case, I find it very annoying and counter productive.
    I'm not generally aware of anyone else in any other situation that think it a good idea to play some awful background music, so you struggle to hear what the interviewee is saying.
    PS It's been happening for a good while.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    I don’t think he did enough on Saturday. I dislike watching a player that doesn’t watch the ball especially at throw-ins. He constantly walked away from the ball with his head down and not offering himself to the thrower. His crossing was poor. I hope he puts in a shift on his next performance. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    He created our only goal 
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    edited August 2022
    I really like how nothing he does is ever aimless. He is always trying to pick someone out rather than knocking it into a general area. The one thing that has frustrated me in the last two games is he's just always offside
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    wasn't that Clayden who must have been offside 3 times in ten mins at one point ...
    probably both
    it was proper no awareness stuff
    football basics , when youre hugging the touchline you can see all the way across so shouldn't be getting offside that regularly
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    can we change the title pls?
  • Chunes said:
    He created our only goal 
    His delivery from that side of the pitch, which both his right and left foot, has been fantastic this season I think.

    It's a bit like Fraser, many people are always going to question him as he is not all action player. Where as I would certainly agree that he leaves us somewhat exposed with his defending at the back, one of the reasons we were so effective against Wednesday was due to his pressing from the front.

    He's had a decent start to the season, and he certainly at that age where it feels like he could develop nicely over the next few years.
  • wasn't that Clayden who must have been offside 3 times in ten mins at one point ...
    probably both
    it was proper no awareness stuff
    football basics , when youre hugging the touchline you can see all the way across so shouldn't be getting offside that regularly
    Clayden and Kirk were as bad as each other when it came to staying onside.

    Least they've got they're synced together in that regard
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited August 2022
    Chunes said:
    He created our only goal 
    His delivery from that side of the pitch, which both his right and left foot, has been fantastic this season I think.

    It's a bit like Fraser, many people are always going to question him as he is not all action player. Where as I would certainly agree that he leaves us somewhat exposed with his defending at the back, one of the reasons we were so effective against Wednesday was due to his pressing from the front.

    He's had a decent start to the season, and he certainly at that age where it feels like he could develop nicely over the next few years.
    Agree. He's put about six clearcut chances on Stockley's head so far this season, that Jayden should really have put away. You can see why he has topped the stats for chances created in the league.
  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 319
    Who's idea was it to play the tantric porn music on loop over the interview? Bloody annoying #bringbackolly
    You beat me to it. The background music they play over many/most of the interviews - just why?
    It's not the best quality sound in any case, I find it very annoying and counter productive.
    I'm not generally aware of anyone else in any other situation that think it a good idea to play some awful background music, so you struggle to hear what the interviewee is saying.
    PS It's been happening for a good while.
    The audio won't be brilliant, probably a bit echoey due to being at the training ground and not actually in a studio or anything. So the "background" music is used to smooth this out. These club interviews with players from any club will have a similar setup, probably only a press conference type situation would be the only one to not have the music. 

    Also, because they're usually clipped up for social media, that's the format for social media platforms. Annoying or not, that's the way they do it now... 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    wasn't that Clayden who must have been offside 3 times in ten mins at one point ...
    probably both
    it was proper no awareness stuff
    football basics , when youre hugging the touchline you can see all the way across so shouldn't be getting offside that regularly
    I was on that touchline, just infront of the 18 yard box. Only once was he actually offside. 
  • Was at the match and thought that Kirk had another good game he has quality.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Chunes said:
    He created our only goal 
    It was the only time he was really allowed any kind of space to create anything. Credit to Cambridge for that.

    Dobson’s pass over to his flank after a bit of pinball in the centre circle is what really opened Cambridge up. Kirk then had the technical ability to get lift the ball into a dangerous area and the rest took care of itself.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    Redhenry said:
    can we change the title pls?
    Done. Keeping it fairly neutral so as not to tempt fate one way or the other :)
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