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Rate our senior squad

Dazzler21
Dazzler21 Posts: 51,358
edited September 2022 in General Charlton
1 is pub footballer at best,
5 is lower league 1/upper league 2
10 is could be performing in the upper reaches of the championship or higher

How would you rate our current senior squad? I'll collate the results and see where we generally feel we are.

Nathan Harness 
Craig MacGillivray
Joe Wollacott 
Ashley Maynard-Brewer

Sean Clare
Mandela Egbo
Ryan Inniss
Sam Lavelle
Eoghan O'Connell
Terell Thomas
Charles Clayden
Steven Sessegnon 

George Dobson
Jake Forster-Caskey 
Scott Fraser 
Aaron Henry 
Conor McGrandles 
Albie Morgan 
Alex Gilbey

Corey Blackett-Taylor
Diallang Jaiyesimi 
Charlie Kirk 
Jack Payne 
Jesurun Rak-Sakyi

Chuks Aneke
Miles Leaburn
Jayden Stockley

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  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    3
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,358
    edited September 2022
    Nathan Harness ?
    Craig MacGillivray 6
    Joe Wollacott 7
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer 7

    Sean Clare 6
    Mandela Egbo 7
    Ryan Inniss 6
    Sam Lavelle 6
    Eoghan O'Connell 6
    Terell Thomas ?
    Charles Clayden 3
    Steven Sessegnon ?

    George Dobson 7
    Jake Forster-Caskey 6
    Scott Fraser 7
    Aaron Henry 5
    Conor McGrandles 4
    Albie Morgan 5
    Alex Gilbey 4

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 7
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 5
    Charlie Kirk 6
    Jack Payne 7
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 8

    Chuks Aneke 4 - can't be higher if he's not playing.
    Miles Leaburn 6
    Jayden Stockley 4
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    Nathan Harness no idea
    Craig MacGillivray 5
    Joe Wollacott 6
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer no idea

    Sean Clare 7
    Mandela Egbo 5
    Ryan Inniss 5
    Sam Lavelle 5
    Eoghan O'Connell 5
    Terell Thomas no idea
    Charles Clayden 4
    Steven Sessegnon 6

    George Dobson 6
    Jake Forster-Caskey 5
    Scott Fraser 5
    Aaron Henry 5
    Conor McGrandles 4
    Albie Morgan 4
    Alex Gilbey 4

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 5
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 3
    Charlie Kirk 4
    Jack Payne 6
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 7

    Chuks Aneke 5
    Miles Leaburn 5
    Jayden Stockley 4

  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,810
    Dazzler21 said:
    1 is pub footballer at best,
    5 is lower league 1/upper league 2
    10 is could be performing in the upper reaches of the championship or higher

    How would you rate our current senior squad? I'll collate the results and see where we generally feel we are.

    Nathan Harness 4
    Craig MacGillivray 5
    Joe Wollacott 6
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer 5

    Sean Clare 6
    Mandela Egbo 6
    Ryan Inniss 6
    Sam Lavelle 5
    Eoghan O'Connell 6
    Terell Thomas 5
    Charles Clayden 4
    Steven Sessegnon 6

    George Dobson 6.5
    Jake Forster-Caskey 6
    Scott Fraser 6
    Aaron Henry 5
    Conor McGrandles 5
    Albie Morgan 5
    Alex Gilbey 5

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 6
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 5
    Charlie Kirk 5
    Jack Payne 5
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 7

    Chuks Aneke 6
    Miles Leaburn 6
    Jayden Stockley 6

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,321
    edited September 2022
    For the purposes of this exercise, 1 should be 'bog-standard League 2 player', none of these lads are the same species of human as a pub player 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,028

  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    Stig said:

    6 (i.e. 2x Charlton)
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,276
    Nathan Harness ?
    Craig MacGillivray 5
    Joe Wollacott 7
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer 6

    Sean Clare 8
    Mandela Egbo 7
    Ryan Inniss 4
    Sam Lavelle 5
    Eoghan O'Connell 6
    Terell Thomas ?
    Charles Clayden 3
    Steven Sessegnon 8

    George Dobson 7
    Jake Forster-Caskey 5
    Scott Fraser 6
    Aaron Henry 8
    Conor McGrandles 5
    Albie Morgan 5
    Alex Gilbey 4

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 6
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 4
    Charlie Kirk 5
    Jack Payne 7
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 10

    Chuks Aneke 7
    Miles Leaburn 9
    Jayden Stockley 5
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    Thought this was a WouldYa thread 
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Nathan Harness 5 at the moment
    Craig MacGillivray 5
    Joe Wollacott 7
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer 6

    Sean Clare 7
    Mandela Egbo 8 early days I know 
    Ryan Inniss 5
    Sam Lavelle 4
    Eoghan O'Connell 4
    Terell Thomas don't know
    Charles Clayden 4
    Steven Sessegnon 8

    George Dobson 7
    Jake Forster-Caskey 5
    Scott Fraser 5
    Aaron Henry 5
    Conor McGrandles 5
    Albie Morgan 4
    Alex Gilbey 4

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 5
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 4
    Charlie Kirk 5
    Jack Payne 5
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 7

    Chuks Aneke 5 when fit but I'd not sign him myself 
    Miles Leaburn 6
    Jayden Stockley 4
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,462
    I'll give you this bag of magic beans for them.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,752
    Nathan Harness ?
    Craig MacGillivray 8
    Joe Wollacott 7
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer ?

    Sean Clare 7
    Mandela Egbo 7
    Ryan Inniss 6
    Sam Lavelle 6
    Eoghan O'Connell 4
    Terell Thomas ?
    Charles Clayden 6
    Steven Sessegnon 7

    George Dobson 8
    Jake Forster-Caskey 7
    Scott Fraser 7
    Aaron Henry 7
    Conor McGrandles 5
    Albie Morgan 4
    Alex Gilbey 6

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 7
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 6
    Charlie Kirk 5
    Jack Payne 7
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 8

    Chuks Aneke 3
    Miles Leaburn 7
    Jayden Stockley 6
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,279
    Nathan Harness   ?
    Craig MacGillivray.  5
    Joe Wollacott     6
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer. ?

    Sean Clare.  6
    Mandela Egbo.   7.5
    Ryan Inniss. 5
    Sam Lavelle.  4
    Eoghan O'Connell.  4
    Terell Thomas.  ?
    Charles Clayden. 3
    Steven Sessegnon   8

    George Dobson.  7
    Jake Forster-Caskey    5
    Scott Fraser    7
    Aaron Henry   4
    Conor McGrandles    5
    Albie Morgan   5
    Alex Gilbey.  5

    Corey Blackett-Taylor.  6
    Diallang Jaiyesimi    6
    Charlie Kirk     6
    Jack Payne    5
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi.  9

    Chuks Aneke.   7 (on ability, but irrelevant as never plays)
    Miles Leaburn.  6 (now but I think will play PL in time).
    Jayden Stockley.  6

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    Nathan Harness 
    Craig MacGillivray
    Joe Wollacott 
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer

    Sean Clare 3
    Mandela Egbo 
    Ryan Inniss 3
    Sam Lavelle 1
    Eoghan O'Connell 1
    Terell Thomas
    Charles Clayden
    Steven Sessegnon 2

    George Dobson 1
    Jake Forster-Caskey 1
    Scott Fraser 8
    Aaron Henry 2
    Conor McGrandles no idea
    Albie Morgan 1
    Alex Gilbey 12 for Stevenage

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 7
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 1
    Charlie Kirk 5
    Jack Payne 6
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 8

    Chuks Aneke 4
    Miles Leaburn 9
    Jayden Stockley 8 

    A generous assessment of how many they will score rater than a rating. This adds up to 71 which will not get us near with our defensive record and it is being generous. Garner has to up CBT and Rak Sakyi's numbers somehow. They get the chances but are seriously lacking in composure. I thought Rak Sakyi may have had it after a coule of games but it doesn't look like he does. 
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529

    Nathan Harness 
    Craig MacGillivray 3
    Joe Wollacott 5
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer

    Sean Clare 6
    Mandela Egbo 5
    Ryan Inniss 5
    Sam Lavelle 3
    Eoghan O'Connell 2
    Terell Thomas 1
    Charles Clayden 1
    Steven Sessegnon 7

    George Dobson 5
    Jake Forster-Caskey 4
    Scott Fraser 5
    Aaron Henry 
    Conor McGrandles 1
    Albie Morgan 3
    Alex Gilbey

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 4
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 2
    Charlie Kirk 6
    Jack Payne 5
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 7

    Chuks Aneke 8
    Miles Leaburn 6
    Jayden Stockley 1
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Depends whether you mean now or in the future. People giving Clayden a 1 is ridiculous. He is a young lad who wouldn't have played a league 1 game under normal circumstances yet. Our brighest prospect and the one who easily play at a higher level in a few years in my opininion is Aaron Henry so giving him a 2 is on what basis. To think Muttley normally is one of our more sensible posters!
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,299
    MrOneLung said:
    Thought this was a WouldYa thread 
    Yep, same here. And as I'm old enough to be their mum for pretty much all of them, that just feels weird
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,358
    I said: 
    1 is pub footballer at best, (This could be L2 relegation standard I guess as Leuth suggested)
    5 is lower league 1/upper league 2
    10 is could be performing in the upper reaches of the championship or higher

    I'm referring to this season.

    I don't care if Clayden could one day play in the Champions league for Man City, at the moment he's not a defender at all and not doing well at LB, So he's a 3 for me right now. 

    I could however see Rak Sakyi playing in the championship this season, around mid table would seem right for now.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited September 2022
    redman said:
    Depends whether you mean now or in the future. People giving Clayden a 1 is ridiculous. He is a young lad who wouldn't have played a league 1 game under normal circumstances yet. Our brighest prospect and the one who easily play at a higher level in a few years in my opininion is Aaron Henry so giving him a 2 is on what basis. To think Muttley normally is one of our more sensible posters!
    I explained that I gave them how many goals they might score this season not how much I rate them. I agree about Henry. I think we have some decent players relative to the level and how many goals they score is a more important measure. Henry is unlikely to get enough games to score more than one league goal.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    redman said:
    Depends whether you mean now or in the future. People giving Clayden a 1 is ridiculous. He is a young lad who wouldn't have played a league 1 game under normal circumstances yet. Our brighest prospect and the one who easily play at a higher level in a few years in my opininion is Aaron Henry so giving him a 2 is on what basis. To think Muttley normally is one of our more sensible posters!
    I explained that I gave them how many goals they might score this season not how much I rate them. I agree about Henry. I think we have some decent players relative to the level and how many goals they score is a more important measure. Henry is unlikely to get enough games to score more than one league goal.
    You did, apologies. I didn't read the comments.
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  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,367
    5. Bang on average mid-table div 3 fodder. 
    We had a chance a couple of seasons back when we won the play off final. With that squad we a chance to consolidate but it was broken up and no real replacement quality came in. We will have to wait our turn again but it won't be with this squad.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,944
    If we are talking where they are now rather than potential I reckon only Sess and Rakisak are the only 2 above a 5.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,358
    edited September 2022


    General Consensus so far seems to be that the defence are the weakest
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    Our attack seem to be somewhat overrated...
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    Our worst rated player hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet... 
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    So what have we learned from this little exercise? 

    Nothing really, we the fans see that we still have a League 1 squad in league 1 and Dazzler needs to find a lunch time hobby. 




    We need things to change and fast otherwise this is yet another mid table season. I refuse to write a season off before January. 
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    AND that's all from me on this thread. 


  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    overall its probably a 6-7/10 for this league. The most frustrating thing is a couple of good players in the right positions and it would easily be an 8.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited September 2022
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    overall its probably a 6-7/10 for this league. The most frustrating thing is a couple of good players in the right positions and it would easily be an 8.
    That;s how I see it. If we could finish a little better and defend a little better, we would be up there. Not a lot, but a little as Paul Daniels might have said.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Nathan Harness- no idea
    Craig MacGillivray - 6
    Joe Wollacott -7.5
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer- no idea

    Sean Clare - 6
    Mandela Egbo - 7 hopefully
    Ryan Inniss- 6
    Sam Lavelle -5
    Eoghan O'Connell -6.5
    Terell Thomas - no idea
    Charles Clayden - 6
    Steven Sessegnon - 7

    George Dobson - 6.5
    Jake Forster-Caskey - 5
    Scott Fraser - 7
    Aaron Henry - 6
    Conor McGrandles - 6 but not sure yet
    Albie Morgan - 6
    Alex Gilbey - 6

    Corey Blackett-Taylor - 6.5 
    Diallang Jaiyesimi - 5
    Charlie Kirk - 6
    Jack Payne - 6.5
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi - 7

    Chuks Aneke 6.5
    Miles Leaburn 6.5
    Jayden Stockley 6
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  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Nathan Harness - dunno haven't seen him in 1st team action
    Craig MacGillivray - adequate if occasionally sketchy
    Joe Wollacott  - better than CM - 1st XI starter
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer -  not seen often enough to judge 

    Sean Clare - adequate right back or right of 3 CH's, hopeless at left back - 1st XI certainty on the right
    Mandela Egbo - tba
    Ryan Inniss -  erratic temperament and fragile physically
    Sam Lavelle - slow lightweight and indecisive
    Eoghan O'Connell - park player
    Terell Thomas - tba
    Charles Clayden - promising winger if quite small, not yet a full back
    Steven Sessegnon  - decent right back and our least worse option so far at left back - 1st XI starter

    George Dobson - best player in the squad by a clear head - 1st XI certainty
    Jake Forster-Caskey - probably the 2nd best central midfielder in the squad bizarrely cast aside by BG
    Scott Fraser - wheezy underachiever nowhere near what we were led to believe
    Aaron Henry -  tba
    Conor McGrandles  - not even a park player
    Albie Morgan -  an enthusiastic and energetic whole hearted bloke, sadly erratic,
    Alex Gilbey - yesterday's man

    Corey Blackett-Taylor - decent attacking outlet who acquitted himself as a wing back when needed -  1st XI starter
    Diallang Jaiyesimi -  not making the most of his evident talent
    Charlie Kirk -  a couple of decent hours do not an acceptable contribution make
    Jack Payne - high energy enthusiast whose little legs can't always get him to what he wants to do, he must be baffled how far down the pecking order he still seems to be -  1st XI starter
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi - a promising talent, hopefully his decision making will improve with experience - 1st XI starter

    Chuks Aneke -  a dead weight on the budget, I'd love to see him available, even if it was just for 30 minutes per game - not likely tho is it?
    Miles Leaburn - a promising talent on whom far too much expectation and reliance is now put because of the desperate paucity of this squad
    Jayden Stockley -  not his fault he's our only experienced striker and unsuited to the blinkered manager's half cocked daydream "tactics", useful in both boxes, functions best with close support a fact so clearly evident that to ignore it is just flat out not doing your job properly Garner!   1st XI starter
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Nathan Harness ?
    Craig MacGillivray 7
    Joe Wollacott 7
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer ?

    Sean Clare 6
    Mandela Egbo ?
    Ryan Inniss n/c
    Sam Lavelle 5
    Eoghan O'Connell 6
    Terell Thomas ?
    Charles Clayden 4
    Steven Sessegnon ?

    George Dobson 7
    Jake Forster-Caskey 5
    Scott Fraser 7
    Aaron Henry ?
    Conor McGrandles ?
    Albie Morgan 4
    Alex Gilbey 5

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 7
    Diallang Jaiyesimi 5
    Charlie Kirk 6
    Jack Payne 7
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 9

    Chuks Aneke 6
    Miles Leaburn 6
    Jayden Stockley 7
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,631
    Nathan Harness 6 Decent in the papa johns games last season
    Craig MacGillivray 6 meh
    Joe Wollacott  7 Great shot stoppper a bit flappy
    Ashley Maynard-Brewer 6
     
    Sean Clare 7 Good
    Mandela Egbo 7 Good so far
    Ryan Inniss 6 too injury prone
    Sam Lavelle 5 Doesnt look great 
    Eoghan O'Connell 6 ok
    Terell Thomas no idea
    Charles Clayden 2 Awful where ever he has played 
    Steven Sessegnon 8  Looks a step above everyone at the minute
     
    George Dobson 7 Good player hard worker
    Jake Forster-Caskey 6  Was good dont know any more
    Scott Fraser  6 Decent but not great
    Aaron Henry  5 Doesnt look good enough
    Conor McGrandles 5  Not had a proper run in the side but it doesnt look promising
    Albie Morgan 1 Crap Should have went years ago
    Alex Gilbey 3 Meh

    Corey Blackett-Taylor 4 Good pace, but crap crossing and passing, a bit thick as well to get caught offside sp much when his looking all the way along the line
    Diallang Jaiyesimi  3 not good enough
    Charlie Kirk  3 not good enough
    Jack Payne  6 Decent
    Jesurun Rak-Sakyi 7 Decent lots to learn
      
    Chuks Aneke 4 - Not sure why he is the saviour, Another thick player who gives away too many free kicks. Has power and pace but injuries are a joke
    Miles Leaburn 5 Looks ok but doesnt look that good with the ball at his feet
    Jayden Stockley 4 Lost his mojo looks a totally different player.

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