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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)
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Shouldn't that be what the directors should be doing?LargeAddick said:Hearing that he wants to tap into Curbs and others knowledge was good to hear.
Let Holden focus on the team rather than 'what the fanbase needs'. We need a winning team, same as every other fanbase. Isn't rocket science for a manager to figure out.0 -
I'm sure Holden was talking about the team and what the fanbase demands on the pitch, and what's been missing there.SELR_addicks said:
Shouldn't that be what the directors should be doing?LargeAddick said:Hearing that he wants to tap into Curbs and others knowledge was good to hear.
Let Holden focus on the team rather than 'what the fanbase needs'. We need a winning team, same as every other fanbase. Isn't rocket science for a manager to figure out.
No doubt Curbs is a very smart man but I'm sure he could offer more value to a young, emerging football manager than some directors.3 -
Exactly Curbs might not have managed a team for a fair few years but he was very successful when he did. He has also seen this team play nearly every game this season, so I would imagine for an incoming manager his thoughts would be of great value.Chunes said:
I'm sure Holden was talking about the team and what the fanbase demands on the pitch, and what's been missing there.SELR_addicks said:
Shouldn't that be what the directors should be doing?LargeAddick said:Hearing that he wants to tap into Curbs and others knowledge was good to hear.
Let Holden focus on the team rather than 'what the fanbase needs'. We need a winning team, same as every other fanbase. Isn't rocket science for a manager to figure out.
I'm sure Curbs is a very smart man but I'm sure he could offer more value to a young, emerging football manager than some directors.5 -
Nice summary, thanks. He does seem a genuine bloke at the very least - no mention of contract then?Chunes said:
He said he'd asked Scott Minto for Alan Curbishley's phone number. He wants to invite him to the training ground and pick his brain about what this club/fanbase needs and what it's been missing. Said he's a terrific resource to tap and that he'd also be asking other ex-Charlton people so he could immerse himself in the club quickly.The Red Robin said:
What did he say?bolloxbolder said:On talk sport in a couple of minutes.
Also said the Charlton community reminds him of Salford where he grew up, in that it's filled with hardworking, good people who love their football. (But our music isn't as good as up there.) Ha!
He mentioned that the feeling around the training ground is quite glum and really needs a lift. Said there will definitely be movement in January with players coming in and others surplus to requirements. He has been watching the team and has an idea of who that is.
Those are the bits that stuck out for me. He came across well. Authentic, honest northerner.0 -
The lads apparently didn't realise I was being sarcastic...Jonniesta said:Ha ha!!! We've got Dean Holden!! In your face, Premier League Palarse!! Stick it up where the sun don't shine, performing-above-your-stature Millwall!! We're coming to get you, all the other London sides that we've fallen so far behind (yes, I'm talking about you, Brentford!)! Mark the date, boys, the date when the tide turned, the Holden express fired up its engines for the first time, HMS PTL was champagne-launched from its dry dock. Holden is the Baz McCullum of footy, with Jayden Stokesley leading the line. Wingers who learn revolutionary new skills, like crossing a ball! It doesn't matter if Inniss concedes 2 a game, he'll score 4! The days of mediocrity are gone! The sun rises for a new dawn, a red dawn, a new era of glory. You nay-sayers who cry 'cheap option!', 'Skintgaard!', 'he'll be gone in 6 months!'... fools, the lot of you! We have Holden, and soon he'll have a stand named after him. We hear the battle cry!
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Who you giving credit to for tonight’s win then Seth? 😉seth plum said:As far as I am concerned Holden is responsible for what happens tonight.
In his interview he said his appointment has been on the cards for a while, he says he has seen us play a lot, and it has been his decision to load the Brighton pressure on Anthony Hayes shoulders.
Giving Holden a chance happens tonight, right here right now as Brighton fans might sing.
I am not interested in Holden having a honeymoon period however unreasonable that might seem, all the club have to do to calm things is to knock a fine premier league club out of the cup this evening.
Otherwise Holden is in deficit with me.9 -
No pressure on Dean then...better not mess up our cup win.
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Bet he wishes he’d taken the reigns for tonight’s match now!0
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Holden was excellent tonight. Sat in his chair, didn't play with his phone... Earned us the win.FishCostaFortune said:
Who you giving credit to for tonight’s win then Seth? 😉seth plum said:As far as I am concerned Holden is responsible for what happens tonight.
In his interview he said his appointment has been on the cards for a while, he says he has seen us play a lot, and it has been his decision to load the Brighton pressure on Anthony Hayes shoulders.
Giving Holden a chance happens tonight, right here right now as Brighton fans might sing.
I am not interested in Holden having a honeymoon period however unreasonable that might seem, all the club have to do to calm things is to knock a fine premier league club out of the cup this evening.
Otherwise Holden is in deficit with me.
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I can't imagine what the Charlton fanbase want is any different from what Stoke, Bristol City or any other group of L1 fans wantChunes said:
I'm sure Holden was talking about the team and what the fanbase demands on the pitch, and what's been missing there.SELR_addicks said:
Shouldn't that be what the directors should be doing?LargeAddick said:Hearing that he wants to tap into Curbs and others knowledge was good to hear.
Let Holden focus on the team rather than 'what the fanbase needs'. We need a winning team, same as every other fanbase. Isn't rocket science for a manager to figure out.
No doubt Curbs is a very smart man but I'm sure he could offer more value to a young, emerging football manager than some directors.1 -
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Bumped in to him soon after final whistle in west stand reception tonight and told him all I wanted was a miracle to keep that lot up (refrained , yeah when I wanted to say Cnuts )
and he said is that all, 😳 , I said yep and he looked at me with a look of fuck off you southern shandy drinking cnut
I agree ,I like him he’s northern so knows we’re fucking lame
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HoldenFishCostaFortune said:
Who you giving credit to for tonight’s win then Seth? 😉seth plum said:As far as I am concerned Holden is responsible for what happens tonight.
In his interview he said his appointment has been on the cards for a while, he says he has seen us play a lot, and it has been his decision to load the Brighton pressure on Anthony Hayes shoulders.
Giving Holden a chance happens tonight, right here right now as Brighton fans might sing.
I am not interested in Holden having a honeymoon period however unreasonable that might seem, all the club have to do to calm things is to knock a fine premier league club out of the cup this evening.
Otherwise Holden is in deficit with me.
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I must admit I'm quite miffed at these replies and people taking issue with Holden wanting to meet Curbs!killerandflash said:
I can't imagine what the Charlton fanbase want is any different from what Stoke, Bristol City or any other group of L1 fans wantChunes said:
I'm sure Holden was talking about the team and what the fanbase demands on the pitch, and what's been missing there.SELR_addicks said:
Shouldn't that be what the directors should be doing?LargeAddick said:Hearing that he wants to tap into Curbs and others knowledge was good to hear.
Let Holden focus on the team rather than 'what the fanbase needs'. We need a winning team, same as every other fanbase. Isn't rocket science for a manager to figure out.
No doubt Curbs is a very smart man but I'm sure he could offer more value to a young, emerging football manager than some directors.
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I agree, very strange. Especially as so many wanted Curbs to be DOF.Chunes said:
I must admit I'm quite miffed at these replies and people taking issue with Holden wanting to meet Curbs!killerandflash said:
I can't imagine what the Charlton fanbase want is any different from what Stoke, Bristol City or any other group of L1 fans wantChunes said:
I'm sure Holden was talking about the team and what the fanbase demands on the pitch, and what's been missing there.SELR_addicks said:
Shouldn't that be what the directors should be doing?LargeAddick said:Hearing that he wants to tap into Curbs and others knowledge was good to hear.
Let Holden focus on the team rather than 'what the fanbase needs'. We need a winning team, same as every other fanbase. Isn't rocket science for a manager to figure out.
No doubt Curbs is a very smart man but I'm sure he could offer more value to a young, emerging football manager than some directors.
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Holden has said everything right so far.
Let's hope he can convert the excellent thoughts to making the team produce on the pitch.6 -
No excuse available for him now after tonight's performance.
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He was in the Oak last night7
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Did he play a Ekulele.Gribbo said:He was in the Oak last night0 -
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Didn’t he used to play for Wimbledon?StrikerFirmani said:
Did he play a Ekulele.Gribbo said:He was in the Oak last night10 -
Is it just me that finds it quite insulting towards Andy Scott that we've only given him a 6 week deal?
Fair play to him for accepting as if i had his level of experience and a bottom half league one club offered me 6 weeks i'd have told them to piss off.
I'd be interested to see under what terms it can/might be extended. Given he's only here for the January transfer window, he can surely only be as successful as the budget allows him to be.2 -
Depends who is paying him, how much they are paying him and what they have promised him?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Is it just me that finds it quite insulting towards Andy Scott that we've only given him a 6 week deal?
Fair play to him for accepting as if i had his level of experience and a bottom half league one club offered me 6 weeks i'd have told them to piss off.
I'd be interested to see under what terms it can/might be extended. Given he's only here for the January transfer window, he can surely only be as successful as the budget allows him to be.
6 weeks suggests he will have a budget to improve the squad, the players we get in will give us a clue of the intent of any new owner.5 -
Yes, it's why I personally think there's something going on.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Is it just me that finds it quite insulting towards Andy Scott that we've only given him a 6 week deal?
Fair play to him for accepting as if i had his level of experience and a bottom half league one club offered me 6 weeks i'd have told them to piss off.
I'd be interested to see under what terms it can/might be extended. Given he's only here for the January transfer window, he can surely only be as successful as the budget allows him to be.
If all these people were signed up until end of season, with a big bonus for keeping us up, that's one thing, but just until the end of the transfer window? Unless he's been offered a ridiculous amount for that time0 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:Is it just me that finds it quite insulting towards Andy Scott that we've only given him a 6 week deal?
Fair play to him for accepting as if i had his level of experience and a bottom half league one club offered me 6 weeks i'd have told them to piss off.
I'd be interested to see under what terms it can/might be extended. Given he's only here for the January transfer window, he can surely only be as successful as the budget allows him to be.
I see it as an appointment by the potential new owners. It doesn’t make sense as a TS appointment, and the takeover hasn’t gone through yet, but without investment in January we could be headed for L2.8 -
I'm probably in the minority, but i wouldn't have minded Hayes staying on a bit longer.
1st half against Bristol Rovers was one of our best performances of the season & just got a victory against premier league opposition.
Maybe just me,but i felt like he was on to something8 -
Must be an appointment by the new owners IMO and they have funded probably all four appointments and three of them will be gone if the deal does not go through.Scoham said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Is it just me that finds it quite insulting towards Andy Scott that we've only given him a 6 week deal?
Fair play to him for accepting as if i had his level of experience and a bottom half league one club offered me 6 weeks i'd have told them to piss off.
I'd be interested to see under what terms it can/might be extended. Given he's only here for the January transfer window, he can surely only be as successful as the budget allows him to be.
I see it as an appointment by the potential new owners. It doesn’t make sense as a TS appointment, and the takeover hasn’t gone through yet, but without investment in January we could be headed for L2.0 -
I felt it was clicking but I am happy he is staying on with Holden coming in.Gravesend_Addick said:I'm probably in the minority, but i wouldn't have minded Hayes staying on a bit longer.
1st half against Bristol Rovers was one of our best performances of the season & just got a victory against premier league opposition.
Maybe just me,but i felt like he was on to something
Marshall however..not so sure...personally would have bumped Hayes up to assistant with Pearce as a coach. All until the end of the season and if it didnt work out, Hayes and Pearce can revert back to there original roles.0
