Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)

Gravesend_Addick said:

I'm probably in the minority, but i wouldn't have minded Hayes staying on a bit longer.

1st half against Bristol Rovers was one of our best performances of the season & just got a victory against premier league opposition. 

Maybe just me,but i felt like he was on to something 

It doesn't sound like he wanted it this early in his career. So it would have just turned sour.

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-dean-holden-im-fully-aware-of-the-fans-relationship-with-their-club/

KentishAddick said:

I was against him coming in as manager, but I have to admit he's come across well in his interviews. Still not convinced he's the right man to ensure we avoid relegation, but will give him a chance. Not sure it matters who's in charge if we continue with Thomas and Martin in charge.

I was against anyone appointed and/or chosen by Thomas Sandgaard and Junior coming in.

My main takeaway from his interview quotes so far is he's going to get stuck into the players.

Quite frankly with the application levels and ability to chuck their managers and teammates under the bus for the last few seasons I've seen from this lot, that is absolutely overdue. I don't want him to take it to Bowyer levels but some of our players need a reality check.

What he's like as a tactician and how he is going to cope with our current state of chaos I have absolutely no idea but if he's going to work on player attitude and workrate in his approach then he's got the right initial idea.

thenewbie said:

ISawLeaburnScore said:

My main takeaway from his interview quotes so far is he's going to get stuck into the players.

Quite frankly with the application levels and ability to chuck their managers and teammates under the bus for the last few seasons I've seen from this lot, that is absolutely overdue. I don't want him to take it to Bowyer levels but some of our players need a reality check.

What he's like as a tactician and how he is going to cope with our current state of chaos I have absolutely no idea but if he's going to work on player attitude and workrate in his approach then he's got the right initial idea.

I don't think we need a tactician or a strategist right now. We aren't likely to out-think many teams and Gardner trying to out-play them is why we're here. Just do a simple job but do it well and get us safe and that's job done.

I agree - i think we've been overcomplicating things. Sensible, solid tactics and a few good vital additions in certain places and we could quite easily be challenging for the play offs instead of worrying about relegation. Garner was never the future for me - his football was tedious and painful to watch.       

DOUCHER said:

thenewbie said:

ISawLeaburnScore said:

My main takeaway from his interview quotes so far is he's going to get stuck into the players.

Quite frankly with the application levels and ability to chuck their managers and teammates under the bus for the last few seasons I've seen from this lot, that is absolutely overdue. I don't want him to take it to Bowyer levels but some of our players need a reality check.

What he's like as a tactician and how he is going to cope with our current state of chaos I have absolutely no idea but if he's going to work on player attitude and workrate in his approach then he's got the right initial idea.

I don't think we need a tactician or a strategist right now. We aren't likely to out-think many teams and Gardner trying to out-play them is why we're here. Just do a simple job but do it well and get us safe and that's job done.

I agree - i think we've been overcomplicating things. Sensible, solid tactics and a few good vital additions in certain places and we could quite easily be challenging for the play offs instead of worrying about relegation. Garner was never the future for me - his football was tedious and painful to watch.       

Garner may have been more successful with players capable of playing his style. 

Regarding sensible tactics for the players we have, I hope item 1 on the agenda is knowing when to lump it rather than play out! 

Holden will need a lot of new players.

Last night was great, but let’s see what happens over the next month.

BigDiddy said:

Holden will need a lot of new players.

Last night was great, but let’s see what happens over the next month.

Despite last night, we are still not good enough in this league.

I’d rather a few very good signings than loads of players coming in, the gap between where we are and the playoffs isn’t that big. Our lack of options up front for one has been a huge weakness. If the ball doesn’t stick up front and you don’t have goals in you it puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the team.

RichmondSE10Exile said:

Other than the fact that Scott has been through successful transfer windows in the recent past there’s no more that you can rely on in his interview re funds being there than the super duper phone talk of MS.

Clearly we have to allow ourselves to trust someone new again. I will leave it to the more informed on here to state how many of the next few weeks are crucial.

There is though a massive difference. Southall mouthing off, who we know is completely untrustworthy is a long way from a well respected bloke like Scott. Sure he could have been lied to but I think it’s highly unlikely that he would have come in with his remit if there were not some very locked on assurances. 

I can't see Marshall staying very long, as soon as Garner gets another job somewhere else, I'm sure he'll come back for him.

killerandflash said:

Scoham said:

BigDiddy said:

Holden will need a lot of new players.

Last night was great, but let’s see what happens over the next month.

Despite last night, we are still not good enough in this league.

I’d rather a few very good signings than loads of players coming in, the gap between where we are and the playoffs isn’t that big. Our lack of options up front for one has been a huge weakness. If the ball doesn’t stick up front and you don’t have goals in you it puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the team.

Agreed. Last night showed that the useless defence from Saturday, against much better opposition, can be solid. But we badly lacked a decent all round CF

There is a definitely a mentality issue with our players. Last night they had nothing to lose, and were able to perform well, whereas against lesser opposition that we should be beating, they struggle.

Need a leader
An organiser 
Two players that can score goals
Someone that can run in behind
Left back cover

That could be 6 players or as few as 3 or 4.

We seem to have more backroom staff than FIFA.

Now we need a few on the pitch!

BigDiddy said:

Holden will need a lot of new players.

Last night was great, but let’s see what happens over the next month.

Despite last night, we are still not good enough in this league.

Aren't we restricted by a squad limit and a wages to turnover ratio though?

Earning a million from a trip to Old Trafford will certainly help this seasons turnover but it's not as if we can go out and buy 10 new players is it?

We will obviously sign some players so then i assume we'd also then have to loan out or release contracted players as we're quite close already to the squad limit, unless we sign a bunch of players who are U21.

The Red Robin said:

How are we earning £1m from one game?

45% gate receipts from a 75k crowd plus (potentially) live sky tv money.

Even if we're not on tv then we should be getting at least 600-700k.

The Red Robin said:

How are we earning £1m from one game?

Apparently we’ve signed a specialist consultant from Brentford called Toney to achieve that.