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Safety incident at Barnsley game.

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
    Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.

    Trust nothing falls down on anyone.

    Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
    Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.

    Trust nothing falls down on anyone.

    Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there. 
    You do realise Charlton life gets me into alot of trouble with the Wife?
    I can't be the only one.
    I sit here reading one of the various threads,  smirking or laughing to myself at the goings on on Charlton life. 
    The wife walks into the room or looks over and says you on that Charlton life again , you wanna get a life.

  • Blimey, I'm not suggesting for one moment a dodgy light is not a cause for concern. 

    I'm saying but clearly failing to explain that CL is swamped with negativity, a substantial amount from people not even at the games and not even in the country. 

    Personally, if I saw a dodgy light I'd alert everyone around me to move to one of the 4,500 empty seats & inform the club asap. 

    I wouldn't start a thread on CL about it, but as I said if I'm in the minority and the majority find CL full of cheer, then fair enough. 

    Mind you I did have 17 likes to my post, so it seems plenty agree. 


    Fans can't move other fans. That's something which only stewards/club officials can do. Especially as the fans underneath the light fitting wouldn't have noticed it.

    They were informed during the first half, as frankly some of us were getting f**king concerned about it. If that light had fallen, someone would have been killed, as the light fittings are heavy and 30 feet above the seating below. Someone at the club SHOULD have noticed this, this isn't a faulty hand dryer or broken toilet lock, so I'm baffled why you don't think this is threadworthy.

    I posted this on the match thread. The light fitting is in the middle of the picture, and was waving around in the wind, as it was only held on by a cable.


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited January 2023
    I didn't say I would move other fans. 
    I said I would alert everyone around me to move (as opposed to moving myself and let a light fall on someone).

    Obviously the club should check these important things before every game and I too would have been extremely concerned.

    I'm thankful no one was hurt and totally agree that it's not good enough.

    My issue was the amount of constantly negative posts on CL and perhaps I should have started a new thread, rather than post on this thread. Apologies. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    edited January 2023
    The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm. 

    In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch. 
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    Blimey, I'm not suggesting for one moment a dodgy light is not a cause for concern. 

    I'm saying but clearly failing to explain that CL is swamped with negativity, a substantial amount from people not even at the games and not even in the country. 

    Personally, if I saw a dodgy light I'd alert everyone around me to move to one of the 4,500 empty seats & inform the club asap. 

    I wouldn't start a thread on CL about it, but as I said if I'm in the minority and the majority find CL full of cheer, then fair enough. 

    Mind you I did have 17 likes to my post, so it seems plenty agree. 


    21 now, CE.

    And I agree with you about possible cause for concern but to start a thread about it to lead up to, 'That's the attitude at Charlton at the moment' sounds like a moan to me. Just sayin'.
  • The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm. 

    In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch. 
    The head steward/stadium manager came over to talk to someone in front of me during the first half and seemed fairly blasé about it, as if it wasn't an issue, so it was a slightly surprise that they then decided to act during the HT interval, which as you say isn't ideal. 
  • I watched it rock and spin as the wind caught it and thought it best to move - it's a big old unit.

    I just blew up the @killerandflash photo (thanks killer), you can't really tell if there is a safety chain or it is indeed just being held on by the electrical cable - either way why take the risk?  Incidentally my son noticed the equivalent light nearest the Jimmy Seed stand was swaying - which I can confirm.  I'm sure Charlton will check all the light fittings in the stand ... won't they?



  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    You can tell the team are winning when the moaning has to revert to a light that may fall in a stand that was 75% empty & fans can move elsewhere. 

    Then also fans complaining about Barnsley fans, when they could also move to any of the 4,500 spare seats.

    Bloody hell, the incessant moaning on CL is reaching even greater heights. 
    Who’s moaning about it? 
    My mate Lewis Coaches from The Netherlands. 
    So 1 person? 
    His brother Dave from Barry too.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    clb74 said:
    You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
    Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.

    Trust nothing falls down on anyone.

    Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there. 
    You do realise Charlton life gets me into alot of trouble with the Wife?
    I can't be the only one.
    I sit here reading one of the various threads,  smirking or laughing to myself at the goings on on Charlton life. 
    The wife walks into the room or looks over and says you on that Charlton life again , you wanna get a life.

    I just tell my Mrs I'm watching Red Tube, when she suspects I'm lurking on here and you can see the look of relief on her face
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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,572
    Gribbo said:
    clb74 said:
    You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
    Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.

    Trust nothing falls down on anyone.

    Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there. 
    You do realise Charlton life gets me into alot of trouble with the Wife?
    I can't be the only one.
    I sit here reading one of the various threads,  smirking or laughing to myself at the goings on on Charlton life. 
    The wife walks into the room or looks over and says you on that Charlton life again , you wanna get a life.

    I just tell my Mrs I'm watching Red Tube, when she suspects I'm lurking on here and you can see the look of relief on her face
    And yours?
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,595
    Major said:
    Blimey, I'm not suggesting for one moment a dodgy light is not a cause for concern. 

    I'm saying but clearly failing to explain that CL is swamped with negativity, a substantial amount from people not even at the games and not even in the country. 

    Personally, if I saw a dodgy light I'd alert everyone around me to move to one of the 4,500 empty seats & inform the club asap. 

    I wouldn't start a thread on CL about it, but as I said if I'm in the minority and the majority find CL full of cheer, then fair enough. 

    Mind you I did have 17 likes to my post, so it seems plenty agree. 


    21 now, CE.

    And I agree with you about possible cause for concern but to start a thread about it to lead up to, 'That's the attitude at Charlton at the moment' sounds like a moan to me. Just sayin'.
    It *is* the attitude at Charlton at the moment ffs!
  • After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    I have it on good authority that should the fitting been in danger of falling the block would have been closed. 

  • T_C_E said:
    I have it on good authority that should the fitting been in danger of falling the block would have been closed, after it had fallen 


  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,638
    After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……
    Would it be down to the club to pay or is it a Landlord issue ie Roland?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,623
    edited January 2023
    After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……
    Would it be down to the club to pay or is it a Landlord issue ie Roland?
    I suspect it’s an FRI lease (Fully Repairing and Insuring) so down to the club and not RD - @AirmanBrown will I suspect know the lease terms 
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    T_C_E said:
    I have it on good authority that should the fitting been in danger of falling the block would have been closed, after it had fallen 


    To quote Burger boy 
    “if you don’t like it, stay at home” 😂😂😂
    Nothing but trouble makers the lot of you 😉😉😉
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm. 

    In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch. 
    You continued to sit under a light that you thought might crash down and kill you? We’re not playing that badly mate.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,339
    Is this the thread for moaning about other posters? Or is it the thread for moaning about other posters moaning about other posters? 
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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Redrobo said:
    The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm. 

    In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch. 
    You continued to sit under a light that you thought might crash down and kill you? We’re not playing that badly mate.
    Not sure it would kill, but woulda thought you'd be very light headed
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    A venue that has thousands turning up on a regular basis should be thoroughly inspected and got up to proper spec on a weekly basis.

    In addition burger boy should check all light fittings in person.
    After all burger boy ought to know about electricity having had a car charger installed in the Valley car park, reportedly for his exclusive personal use.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,784
    Cutbacks
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    There is a light and it never goes out 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Just to add a different angle to this, when my company used to maintain the electrics at The Valley including the emergency lights we regularly reported faults and safety issues to the club, all of which were ignored for months before being rectified.

    On one occasion all the emergency lights in the South Stand had malfunctioned and the club held two home games before the problem was solved, and this was during the winter months when it is dark at 16.30, it could have been very messy if there had been a power cut.

    I could tell you a lot more but wont however this is not a new thing, been going on for years at The Valley


  • Just to add a different angle to this, when my company used to maintain the electrics at The Valley including the emergency lights we regularly reported faults and safety issues to the club, all of which were ignored for months before being rectified.

    On one occasion all the emergency lights in the South Stand had malfunctioned and the club held two home games before the problem was solved, and this was during the winter months when it is dark at 16.30, it could have been very messy if there had been a power cut.

    I could tell you a lot more but wont however this is not a new thing, been going on for years at The Valley


    Out of interest - the bloke I met in the pub said electrics were not up to current standards / regulations - I found this rather shocking - are these things not covered by the safety in sports grounds law, and subject to annual checks, given it’s a football ground with a 27,000 capacity ??
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,678
    edited January 2023
    After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……
    Remember the night game a few years back that was delayed due to floodlight failure for about half hour?
    Had a lump of wood wedged into the contactor (switch) in order to keep it energised.
    All components open to touch. 
    Had a steward stand at the switchroom door in order to prevent anyone entering.
    And as for the central batteries/UPS for the emergency lighting.
    That hasn't been maintained for years.
    Maintenance doesn't bring in revenue, hence it gets pushed to the back of the queue.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    There has been a toilet in the East Stand where there hasn’t been a lock on it for two seasons now. The lamp will have to join the repair queue.
    Can you advise roughly whereabouts in the East this unlockable door might be found?  I never go in the East but can see if I can get someone to rectify
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Swisdom said:
    There has been a toilet in the East Stand where there hasn’t been a lock on it for two seasons now. The lamp will have to join the repair queue.
    Can you advise roughly whereabouts in the East this unlockable door might be found?  I never go in the East but can see if I can get someone to rectify
    In the Women's ain't it @LargeAddick
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Just to add a different angle to this, when my company used to maintain the electrics at The Valley including the emergency lights we regularly reported faults and safety issues to the club, all of which were ignored for months before being rectified.

    On one occasion all the emergency lights in the South Stand had malfunctioned and the club held two home games before the problem was solved, and this was during the winter months when it is dark at 16.30, it could have been very messy if there had been a power cut.

    I could tell you a lot more but wont however this is not a new thing, been going on for years at The Valley


    Out of interest - the bloke I met in the pub said electrics were not up to current standards / regulations - I found this rather shocking - are these things not covered by the safety in sports grounds law, and subject to annual checks, given it’s a football ground with a 27,000 capacity ??
    I am not aware of the regulations surrounding who and when visits the club to inspect their paperwork. My company was contracted to carry out quarterly and six monthly checks in line with British Standards and regulations but the club chose not to act straight away when problems were reported.

    ROTW mentions above the central batteries supporting the emergency lights, I could go on forever writing stories about those and the fun and games.