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Safety incident at Barnsley game.
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Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there.Lewis Coaches said:You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.
Trust nothing falls down on anyone.9 -
You do realise Charlton life gets me into alot of trouble with the Wife?Covered End said:
Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there.Lewis Coaches said:You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.
Trust nothing falls down on anyone.
I can't be the only one.
I sit here reading one of the various threads, smirking or laughing to myself at the goings on on Charlton life.
The wife walks into the room or looks over and says you on that Charlton life again , you wanna get a life.
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Fans can't move other fans. That's something which only stewards/club officials can do. Especially as the fans underneath the light fitting wouldn't have noticed it.Covered End said:Blimey, I'm not suggesting for one moment a dodgy light is not a cause for concern.
I'm saying but clearly failing to explain that CL is swamped with negativity, a substantial amount from people not even at the games and not even in the country.
Personally, if I saw a dodgy light I'd alert everyone around me to move to one of the 4,500 empty seats & inform the club asap.
I wouldn't start a thread on CL about it, but as I said if I'm in the minority and the majority find CL full of cheer, then fair enough.
Mind you I did have 17 likes to my post, so it seems plenty agree.
They were informed during the first half, as frankly some of us were getting f**king concerned about it. If that light had fallen, someone would have been killed, as the light fittings are heavy and 30 feet above the seating below. Someone at the club SHOULD have noticed this, this isn't a faulty hand dryer or broken toilet lock, so I'm baffled why you don't think this is threadworthy.
I posted this on the match thread. The light fitting is in the middle of the picture, and was waving around in the wind, as it was only held on by a cable.
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I didn't say I would move other fans.
I said I would alert everyone around me to move (as opposed to moving myself and let a light fall on someone).
Obviously the club should check these important things before every game and I too would have been extremely concerned.
I'm thankful no one was hurt and totally agree that it's not good enough.
My issue was the amount of constantly negative posts on CL and perhaps I should have started a new thread, rather than post on this thread. Apologies.1 -
The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm.
In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch.3 -
21 now, CE.Covered End said:Blimey, I'm not suggesting for one moment a dodgy light is not a cause for concern.
I'm saying but clearly failing to explain that CL is swamped with negativity, a substantial amount from people not even at the games and not even in the country.
Personally, if I saw a dodgy light I'd alert everyone around me to move to one of the 4,500 empty seats & inform the club asap.
I wouldn't start a thread on CL about it, but as I said if I'm in the minority and the majority find CL full of cheer, then fair enough.
Mind you I did have 17 likes to my post, so it seems plenty agree.
And I agree with you about possible cause for concern but to start a thread about it to lead up to, 'That's the attitude at Charlton at the moment' sounds like a moan to me. Just sayin'.2 -
The head steward/stadium manager came over to talk to someone in front of me during the first half and seemed fairly blasé about it, as if it wasn't an issue, so it was a slightly surprise that they then decided to act during the HT interval, which as you say isn't ideal.golfaddick said:The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm.
In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch.0 -
I watched it rock and spin as the wind caught it and thought it best to move - it's a big old unit.
I just blew up the @killerandflash photo (thanks killer), you can't really tell if there is a safety chain or it is indeed just being held on by the electrical cable - either way why take the risk? Incidentally my son noticed the equivalent light nearest the Jimmy Seed stand was swaying - which I can confirm. I'm sure Charlton will check all the light fittings in the stand ... won't they?
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His brother Dave from Barry too.cafcfan1990 said:
So 1 person?Covered End said:
My mate Lewis Coaches from The Netherlands.AFKABartram said:
Who’s moaning about it?Covered End said:You can tell the team are winning when the moaning has to revert to a light that may fall in a stand that was 75% empty & fans can move elsewhere.
Then also fans complaining about Barnsley fans, when they could also move to any of the 4,500 spare seats.
Bloody hell, the incessant moaning on CL is reaching even greater heights.0 -
I just tell my Mrs I'm watching Red Tube, when she suspects I'm lurking on here and you can see the look of relief on her faceclb74 said:
You do realise Charlton life gets me into alot of trouble with the Wife?Covered End said:
Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there.Lewis Coaches said:You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.
Trust nothing falls down on anyone.
I can't be the only one.
I sit here reading one of the various threads, smirking or laughing to myself at the goings on on Charlton life.
The wife walks into the room or looks over and says you on that Charlton life again , you wanna get a life.2 - Sponsored links:
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And yours?Gribbo said:
I just tell my Mrs I'm watching Red Tube, when she suspects I'm lurking on here and you can see the look of relief on her faceclb74 said:
You do realise Charlton life gets me into alot of trouble with the Wife?Covered End said:
Apologies C, but your first 3 words were "didn't attend yesterday", so I'm presuming you wasn't there.Lewis Coaches said:You have no idea what I was doing or where I am this weekend.
Charlton will be hearing from more people this week re this incident.
Trust nothing falls down on anyone.
I can't be the only one.
I sit here reading one of the various threads, smirking or laughing to myself at the goings on on Charlton life.
The wife walks into the room or looks over and says you on that Charlton life again , you wanna get a life.2 -
It *is* the attitude at Charlton at the moment ffs!Major said:
21 now, CE.Covered End said:Blimey, I'm not suggesting for one moment a dodgy light is not a cause for concern.
I'm saying but clearly failing to explain that CL is swamped with negativity, a substantial amount from people not even at the games and not even in the country.
Personally, if I saw a dodgy light I'd alert everyone around me to move to one of the 4,500 empty seats & inform the club asap.
I wouldn't start a thread on CL about it, but as I said if I'm in the minority and the majority find CL full of cheer, then fair enough.
Mind you I did have 17 likes to my post, so it seems plenty agree.
And I agree with you about possible cause for concern but to start a thread about it to lead up to, 'That's the attitude at Charlton at the moment' sounds like a moan to me. Just sayin'.1 -
After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……4
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I have it on good authority that should the fitting been in danger of falling the block would have been closed.0
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T_C_E said:I have it on good authority that should the fitting been in danger of falling the block would have been closed, after it had fallen
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Would it be down to the club to pay or is it a Landlord issue ie Roland?Lordflashheart said:After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……0 -
I suspect it’s an FRI lease (Fully Repairing and Insuring) so down to the club and not RD - @AirmanBrown will I suspect know the lease termsHardyAddick said:
Would it be down to the club to pay or is it a Landlord issue ie Roland?Lordflashheart said:After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……2 -
To quote Burger boyoohaahmortimer said:T_C_E said:I have it on good authority that should the fitting been in danger of falling the block would have been closed, after it had fallen
“if you don’t like it, stay at home” 😂😂😂
Nothing but trouble makers the lot of you 😉😉😉1 -
You continued to sit under a light that you thought might crash down and kill you? We’re not playing that badly mate.golfaddick said:The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm.
In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch.5 -
Is this the thread for moaning about other posters? Or is it the thread for moaning about other posters moaning about other posters?0
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Not sure it would kill, but woulda thought you'd be very light headedRedrobo said:
You continued to sit under a light that you thought might crash down and kill you? We’re not playing that badly mate.golfaddick said:The daft thing about it was the stewards were trying to move us at half time & asking us to sit in other parts of the stand. Problem was it was half time & around 50% of the fans in blocks F&G weren't in their seats as they were either going to the loo or for a pint. So no-one could tell what seats were legitimately free & what ones would be taken come 4pm.
In the end only a few rows were moved.....but I spent a good part of the 2nd half looking up at the light & not down on the pitch.9 -
A venue that has thousands turning up on a regular basis should be thoroughly inspected and got up to proper spec on a weekly basis.
In addition burger boy should check all light fittings in person.
After all burger boy ought to know about electricity having had a car charger installed in the Valley car park, reportedly for his exclusive personal use.0 -
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There is a light and it never goes out0
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Just to add a different angle to this, when my company used to maintain the electrics at The Valley including the emergency lights we regularly reported faults and safety issues to the club, all of which were ignored for months before being rectified.
On one occasion all the emergency lights in the South Stand had malfunctioned and the club held two home games before the problem was solved, and this was during the winter months when it is dark at 16.30, it could have been very messy if there had been a power cut.
I could tell you a lot more but wont however this is not a new thing, been going on for years at The Valley
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Out of interest - the bloke I met in the pub said electrics were not up to current standards / regulations - I found this rather shocking - are these things not covered by the safety in sports grounds law, and subject to annual checks, given it’s a football ground with a 27,000 capacity ??eaststandmike said:Just to add a different angle to this, when my company used to maintain the electrics at The Valley including the emergency lights we regularly reported faults and safety issues to the club, all of which were ignored for months before being rectified.
On one occasion all the emergency lights in the South Stand had malfunctioned and the club held two home games before the problem was solved, and this was during the winter months when it is dark at 16.30, it could have been very messy if there had been a power cut.
I could tell you a lot more but wont however this is not a new thing, been going on for years at The Valley1 -
Remember the night game a few years back that was delayed due to floodlight failure for about half hour?Lordflashheart said:After the Lincoln game was in the Rose pub in Dartford, got talking to a bloke in there who is an electrician - told me that he used to be a contractor at The Valley up until late 2019 - he now refuses to work at The Valley as the electrics are now non compliant, and in his view dangerous to work on - told me a lot of money would need to be spent to bring up to scratch……
Had a lump of wood wedged into the contactor (switch) in order to keep it energised.
All components open to touch.
Had a steward stand at the switchroom door in order to prevent anyone entering.
And as for the central batteries/UPS for the emergency lighting.
That hasn't been maintained for years.
Maintenance doesn't bring in revenue, hence it gets pushed to the back of the queue.3 -
Can you advise roughly whereabouts in the East this unlockable door might be found? I never go in the East but can see if I can get someone to rectifyLargeAddick said:There has been a toilet in the East Stand where there hasn’t been a lock on it for two seasons now. The lamp will have to join the repair queue.0 -
In the Women's ain't it @LargeAddickSwisdom said:
Can you advise roughly whereabouts in the East this unlockable door might be found? I never go in the East but can see if I can get someone to rectifyLargeAddick said:There has been a toilet in the East Stand where there hasn’t been a lock on it for two seasons now. The lamp will have to join the repair queue.3 -
I am not aware of the regulations surrounding who and when visits the club to inspect their paperwork. My company was contracted to carry out quarterly and six monthly checks in line with British Standards and regulations but the club chose not to act straight away when problems were reported.Lordflashheart said:
Out of interest - the bloke I met in the pub said electrics were not up to current standards / regulations - I found this rather shocking - are these things not covered by the safety in sports grounds law, and subject to annual checks, given it’s a football ground with a 27,000 capacity ??eaststandmike said:Just to add a different angle to this, when my company used to maintain the electrics at The Valley including the emergency lights we regularly reported faults and safety issues to the club, all of which were ignored for months before being rectified.
On one occasion all the emergency lights in the South Stand had malfunctioned and the club held two home games before the problem was solved, and this was during the winter months when it is dark at 16.30, it could have been very messy if there had been a power cut.
I could tell you a lot more but wont however this is not a new thing, been going on for years at The Valley
ROTW mentions above the central batteries supporting the emergency lights, I could go on forever writing stories about those and the fun and games.1
